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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

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MrGoodKat wrote:
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Is old griz player rep/hoops?
I would be shocked if he is. He doesn’t interact like him at all.
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

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ClowderUp wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:14 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:48 pm
Vamos Gatos Vamos wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:33 pm
Is old griz player rep/hoops?
I would be shocked if he is. He doesn’t interact like him at all.
Of course he is.
He’s not Hoops.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by Vamos Gatos Vamos » Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:36 pm

MrGoodKat wrote:
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Ah Yat certainly didn’t crumble psychologically under the pressure, but he did struggle to replicate his normal production against a much better defense.

Anyone else notice how virtually all the downfield passing happened early? Once they used up the scripted stuff, it was a lot of dinking and dunking.
Ah Yat was getting battered around asthe game went on & our 2 deep d line was getting stronger. They were taking what we were giving - short passing game. Ah Yay was impressive, he's so much better this season. Lamson was out of his mind though. That kid has ice in his veins.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by kennethnoisewater » Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:59 pm

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Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:32 pm
Both QB’s played very well. At the end of the day, these are just kids and my word did they both do an awesome job under HUGE pressure. My hats off to both. What a great game to watch! Now off to playoffs!
Combined, the QBs were 44 of 52. Obviously the pick 6 was a big play, but as mentioned, not really KAY's fault. Eight incompletions out of 52 is crazy, even if KAY had a lot of dinks and dunks. Pretty efficient.


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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by MrGoodKat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:05 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:59 pm
catapult wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:32 pm
Both QB’s played very well. At the end of the day, these are just kids and my word did they both do an awesome job under HUGE pressure. My hats off to both. What a great game to watch! Now off to playoffs!
Combined, the QBs were 44 of 52. Obviously the pick 6 was a big play, but as mentioned, not really KAY's fault. Eight incompletions out of 52 is crazy, even if KAY had a lot of dinks and dunks. Pretty efficient.
5.8 YPA is pretty wretched. 4.2 yards below his average.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by MrGoodKat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:06 pm

Vamos Gatos Vamos wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:36 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:05 pm
Ah Yat certainly didn’t crumble psychologically under the pressure, but he did struggle to replicate his normal production against a much better defense.

Anyone else notice how virtually all the downfield passing happened early? Once they used up the scripted stuff, it was a lot of dinking and dunking.
Ah Yat was getting battered around asthe game went on & our 2 deep d line was getting stronger. They were taking what we were giving - short passing game. Ah Yay was impressive, he's so much better this season. Lamson was out of his mind though. That kid has ice in his veins.
I think they were taking the short game because it was there, yes, but also because they couldn't protect Ah Yat and he doesn't see the field well. He's got a good arm and does a good job delivering the ball where it's supposed to go if it's defined for him, but when he has to figure it out post-snap it's not good.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by ilovethecats » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:00 am

Ya he literally had no time even with our 4man rush. His only option was to throw it to a safety net for a couple yard game. But I can’t wait to hear how our defense must suck because they didn’t sack him a ton…



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by MSU Doc » Wed Nov 26, 2025 6:26 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pm
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Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pm
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Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pm
Feel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
What is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?
Depends which BSC Ref team shows up
The Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:

Tony Romo after a victory over the Seahawks in Seattle:
“Missoula Montana is way louder.”

Carson Wentz when asked about the loudest venue he’s ever played in: “Probably the University of Montana — out there it’s a pretty cool environment, pretty loud atmosphere.”

Appalachian State Coach Jerry Moore:
“Their atmosphere is a lot better than The Rock. Their crowd makes Michigan's 109,000 sound like mice. I promise you that there isn't another stadium in our division like Montana's stadium and fans. It was the loudest place I have ever been to in my life.”

Hofstra Coach Joe Gardi:
“I coached in the NFL with the NY Jets for ten years and I know what crowd noise is. I coached at Maryland...played at Texas, Auburn, LSU, Clemson, in some of the greatest stadiums in the country. I mean, at LSU they used to prod the tiger with an electric shock to get him to roar when you came on the field. It was just unbelievable to a visiting player. In comparison, Montana is a tougher place to play. Because it's so closed in. The noise is so confined. My granddaughter got so scared in that place, she was seven years old, she never let go of her mother the whole first quarter.
One year, I gave my pep talk, went down to the field, and they've got that rubber tunnel set up. I thought, that's nice, it's there to keep fans from throwing things on us. And I get in there, and Monte is there, the flaps are closed, and I couldn't get on the field. Monte told me I'd better back off, and I said 'No, I'm fine.' Then he started the motorcycle, and I about jumped out of my skin. They opened the flaps and the crowd went crazy.
That thing with Monte, the big screen TV, I'm doing a time out one time, and I look up and Tom Cruise is on that screen doing that dance from 'Risky Business,' and I'm watching it! I thought, 'What the heck am I doing, am I crazy? ' It’s all just an unbelievable advantage for the home team.”

Old Dominion Coach Bobby Wilder:
“I have coached in stadiums all over the country in my career. Penn State, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Nebraska to name a few. All of these facilities held 80,000 to 100,000 people. None of these stadiums were as loud as the University of Montana. What made Montana different was the fans were at their loudest when their opponent was on offense. They knew they could eliminate the offensive check system with noise. They were the 12th defender on the field by making the offense predictable. And they took great pleasure in every penalty the visiting team received. They knew that was their penalty.”

Huntsville TX Sports Editor Jason Barfield:
“Everyone has always said Montana has the best crowd in Division I-AA. Well, I'm willing to go one better -- Montana has the best crowd in all of college football. Not only were there more than 23,000 people packed into the stadium, but the fans were loud -- real loud. They were also very knowledgeable. When the Grizzlies were on offense, the stadium was silent. Everyone on the sideline could hear the quarterback audible a play. When the Bearkats were on offense it was totally different. Every single person in the stadium was on their feet making as much noise as possible. It is hard to describe how loud the crowd actually was. Try to imagine standing inside an airplane engine -- it was louder.”
Another quote for your list:
Montana State Quarterback Justin Lamson:
"Yeah, great atmosphere. Bobcat Stadium is better."



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by rfischer94 » Wed Nov 26, 2025 6:44 pm

MSU Doc wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 6:26 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pm
kcatz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pm
St George wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pm
Feel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
What is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?
Depends which BSC Ref team shows up
The Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:

Tony Romo after a victory over the Seahawks in Seattle:
“Missoula Montana is way louder.”

Carson Wentz when asked about the loudest venue he’s ever played in: “Probably the University of Montana — out there it’s a pretty cool environment, pretty loud atmosphere.”

Appalachian State Coach Jerry Moore:
“Their atmosphere is a lot better than The Rock. Their crowd makes Michigan's 109,000 sound like mice. I promise you that there isn't another stadium in our division like Montana's stadium and fans. It was the loudest place I have ever been to in my life.”

Hofstra Coach Joe Gardi:
“I coached in the NFL with the NY Jets for ten years and I know what crowd noise is. I coached at Maryland...played at Texas, Auburn, LSU, Clemson, in some of the greatest stadiums in the country. I mean, at LSU they used to prod the tiger with an electric shock to get him to roar when you came on the field. It was just unbelievable to a visiting player. In comparison, Montana is a tougher place to play. Because it's so closed in. The noise is so confined. My granddaughter got so scared in that place, she was seven years old, she never let go of her mother the whole first quarter.
One year, I gave my pep talk, went down to the field, and they've got that rubber tunnel set up. I thought, that's nice, it's there to keep fans from throwing things on us. And I get in there, and Monte is there, the flaps are closed, and I couldn't get on the field. Monte told me I'd better back off, and I said 'No, I'm fine.' Then he started the motorcycle, and I about jumped out of my skin. They opened the flaps and the crowd went crazy.
That thing with Monte, the big screen TV, I'm doing a time out one time, and I look up and Tom Cruise is on that screen doing that dance from 'Risky Business,' and I'm watching it! I thought, 'What the heck am I doing, am I crazy? ' It’s all just an unbelievable advantage for the home team.”

Old Dominion Coach Bobby Wilder:
“I have coached in stadiums all over the country in my career. Penn State, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Nebraska to name a few. All of these facilities held 80,000 to 100,000 people. None of these stadiums were as loud as the University of Montana. What made Montana different was the fans were at their loudest when their opponent was on offense. They knew they could eliminate the offensive check system with noise. They were the 12th defender on the field by making the offense predictable. And they took great pleasure in every penalty the visiting team received. They knew that was their penalty.”

Huntsville TX Sports Editor Jason Barfield:
“Everyone has always said Montana has the best crowd in Division I-AA. Well, I'm willing to go one better -- Montana has the best crowd in all of college football. Not only were there more than 23,000 people packed into the stadium, but the fans were loud -- real loud. They were also very knowledgeable. When the Grizzlies were on offense, the stadium was silent. Everyone on the sideline could hear the quarterback audible a play. When the Bearkats were on offense it was totally different. Every single person in the stadium was on their feet making as much noise as possible. It is hard to describe how loud the crowd actually was. Try to imagine standing inside an airplane engine -- it was louder.”
Another quote for your list:
Montana State Quarterback Justin Lamson:
"Yeah, great atmosphere. Bobcat Stadium is better."
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by KIX » Wed Nov 26, 2025 7:24 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:00 am
Ya he literally had no time even with our 4man rush. His only option was to throw it to a safety net for a couple yard game. But I can’t wait to hear how our defense must suck because they didn’t sack him a ton…
Cats D needs to figure out the short passing game. Awesome that they guard against the long ball/big play but can buckle down more with our cold front pressure.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by MrGoodKat » Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:02 pm

KIX wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 7:24 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:00 am
Ya he literally had no time even with our 4man rush. His only option was to throw it to a safety net for a couple yard game. But I can’t wait to hear how our defense must suck because they didn’t sack him a ton…
Cats D needs to figure out the short passing game. Awesome that they guard against the long ball/big play but can buckle down more with our cold front pressure.
The short passing game is what they invite. They just need to tackle. That was the issue in Missoula. There wee lots of instances where they could have created negative or negligible plays, but they turned into first downs and touchdowns.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by Mtcatfan » Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:45 pm

Vamos Gatos Vamos wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:33 pm
Is old griz player rep/hoops?
Yes



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by KIX » Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:18 pm

MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:02 pm
KIX wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 7:24 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:00 am
Ya he literally had no time even with our 4man rush. His only option was to throw it to a safety net for a couple yard game. But I can’t wait to hear how our defense must suck because they didn’t sack him a ton…
Cats D needs to figure out the short passing game. Awesome that they guard against the long ball/big play but can buckle down more with our cold front pressure.
The short passing game is what they invite. They just need to tackle. That was the issue in Missoula. There wee lots of instances where they could have created negative or negligible plays, but they turned into first downs and touchdowns.
True. Lots of bad angles, too.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by RickRund » Thu Nov 27, 2025 11:12 am

MrGoodKat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:07 am
OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:23 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:52 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:05 pm
So funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
Passing Defense
2025 Conference Stats

COMP
Cats - 229
Griz - 235

ATT
Cats - 380
Griz - 408

INT
Cats - 10
Griz - 18

PCT
Cats - 60.3
Griz - 57.6

TD
Cats - 14
Griz - 15

SACKS
Cats - 20
Griz - 25

EFFIC
Cats - 115.2 (1st)
Griz - 120.5 (2nd)

The visiting QB won’t be able to hear anything on the field except his earpiece, and he won’t be heard. The home QB won’t have the same handicap. The passing defense stats aren’t wildly different.
For some reason you didn’t include passing yards allowed. Didn’t fit the argument?

Fwiw, UM is allowing 303 passing yards per game in conference play. They’re allowing 312 passing yards at home against conference opponents.
That’s because for the total of 700-yard difference between the two defenses over the conference season, the result is Montana allowed 1 more passing touchdown than the Cats. :sleep:

I’m not saying the Griz defense is better than the Cats. The Cats have a better defense, including pass defense. But for the guy who expects Lamson and company to have a field day in the air tomorrow, because the Griz can’t defend, well, it would be fun to see their faces come game time.
The reason why the Griz have allowed twice as many points as the Cats in BSC play is that opposing teams use the passing game to move the ball and then score on the ground. They’ve allowed 13 rushing touchdowns in conference play to MSU’s 3.

By no means am I certain of a great day out of Lamson or a Bobcat win in that environment, but the results this season pretty strongly indicate that UM’s pass defense is very gettable. In my opinion, the deficiency is in the front rather than the defensive backfield. When you have to send lots of extra bodies to create pressure, you leave holes in the defense. It’s unavoidable.
Maybe hauck will find it necessary to go for more in the portal. It has worked so well so far. There is a saying but my ancient brain can’t remember it, something to do with diminished results…

Quite a few of oldgriz’ statements didn’t age well.


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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by SparkCat » Thu Nov 27, 2025 11:20 am

RickRund wrote:
Thu Nov 27, 2025 11:12 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:07 am
OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:23 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:52 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:05 pm
So funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
Passing Defense
2025 Conference Stats

COMP
Cats - 229
Griz - 235

ATT
Cats - 380
Griz - 408

INT
Cats - 10
Griz - 18

PCT
Cats - 60.3
Griz - 57.6

TD
Cats - 14
Griz - 15

SACKS
Cats - 20
Griz - 25

EFFIC
Cats - 115.2 (1st)
Griz - 120.5 (2nd)

The visiting QB won’t be able to hear anything on the field except his earpiece, and he won’t be heard. The home QB won’t have the same handicap. The passing defense stats aren’t wildly different.
For some reason you didn’t include passing yards allowed. Didn’t fit the argument?

Fwiw, UM is allowing 303 passing yards per game in conference play. They’re allowing 312 passing yards at home against conference opponents.
That’s because for the total of 700-yard difference between the two defenses over the conference season, the result is Montana allowed 1 more passing touchdown than the Cats. :sleep:

I’m not saying the Griz defense is better than the Cats. The Cats have a better defense, including pass defense. But for the guy who expects Lamson and company to have a field day in the air tomorrow, because the Griz can’t defend, well, it would be fun to see their faces come game time.
The reason why the Griz have allowed twice as many points as the Cats in BSC play is that opposing teams use the passing game to move the ball and then score on the ground. They’ve allowed 13 rushing touchdowns in conference play to MSU’s 3.

By no means am I certain of a great day out of Lamson or a Bobcat win in that environment, but the results this season pretty strongly indicate that UM’s pass defense is very gettable. In my opinion, the deficiency is in the front rather than the defensive backfield. When you have to send lots of extra bodies to create pressure, you leave holes in the defense. It’s unavoidable.
Maybe hauck will find it necessary to go for more in the portal. It has worked so well so far. There is a saying but my ancient brain can’t remember it, something to do with diminished results…

Quite a few of oldgriz’ statements didn’t age well.
Now he’s over here kissing our asses while talking cat smack on egriz. Must be a liar or a lawyer, same thing I guess.



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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble

Post by Vamos Gatos Vamos » Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:36 pm

Mtcatfan wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:45 pm
Vamos Gatos Vamos wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:33 pm
Is old griz player rep/hoops?
Yes
He's a ton more intelligent over here. Still a moron mind you...



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