Depends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
Does Ah Yat Crumble
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The Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
Tony Romo after a victory over the Seahawks in Seattle:
“Missoula Montana is way louder.”
Carson Wentz when asked about the loudest venue he’s ever played in: “Probably the University of Montana — out there it’s a pretty cool environment, pretty loud atmosphere.”
Appalachian State Coach Jerry Moore:
“Their atmosphere is a lot better than The Rock. Their crowd makes Michigan's 109,000 sound like mice. I promise you that there isn't another stadium in our division like Montana's stadium and fans. It was the loudest place I have ever been to in my life.”
Hofstra Coach Joe Gardi:
“I coached in the NFL with the NY Jets for ten years and I know what crowd noise is. I coached at Maryland...played at Texas, Auburn, LSU, Clemson, in some of the greatest stadiums in the country. I mean, at LSU they used to prod the tiger with an electric shock to get him to roar when you came on the field. It was just unbelievable to a visiting player. In comparison, Montana is a tougher place to play. Because it's so closed in. The noise is so confined. My granddaughter got so scared in that place, she was seven years old, she never let go of her mother the whole first quarter.
One year, I gave my pep talk, went down to the field, and they've got that rubber tunnel set up. I thought, that's nice, it's there to keep fans from throwing things on us. And I get in there, and Monte is there, the flaps are closed, and I couldn't get on the field. Monte told me I'd better back off, and I said 'No, I'm fine.' Then he started the motorcycle, and I about jumped out of my skin. They opened the flaps and the crowd went crazy.
That thing with Monte, the big screen TV, I'm doing a time out one time, and I look up and Tom Cruise is on that screen doing that dance from 'Risky Business,' and I'm watching it! I thought, 'What the heck am I doing, am I crazy? ' It’s all just an unbelievable advantage for the home team.”
Old Dominion Coach Bobby Wilder:
“I have coached in stadiums all over the country in my career. Penn State, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Nebraska to name a few. All of these facilities held 80,000 to 100,000 people. None of these stadiums were as loud as the University of Montana. What made Montana different was the fans were at their loudest when their opponent was on offense. They knew they could eliminate the offensive check system with noise. They were the 12th defender on the field by making the offense predictable. And they took great pleasure in every penalty the visiting team received. They knew that was their penalty.”
Huntsville TX Sports Editor Jason Barfield:
“Everyone has always said Montana has the best crowd in Division I-AA. Well, I'm willing to go one better -- Montana has the best crowd in all of college football. Not only were there more than 23,000 people packed into the stadium, but the fans were loud -- real loud. They were also very knowledgeable. When the Grizzlies were on offense, the stadium was silent. Everyone on the sideline could hear the quarterback audible a play. When the Bearkats were on offense it was totally different. Every single person in the stadium was on their feet making as much noise as possible. It is hard to describe how loud the crowd actually was. Try to imagine standing inside an airplane engine -- it was louder.”
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Why do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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OK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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It's honestly cute you think this is new information for us.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
Tony Romo after a victory over the Seahawks in Seattle:
“Missoula Montana is way louder.”
Carson Wentz when asked about the loudest venue he’s ever played in: “Probably the University of Montana — out there it’s a pretty cool environment, pretty loud atmosphere.”
Appalachian State Coach Jerry Moore:
“Their atmosphere is a lot better than The Rock. Their crowd makes Michigan's 109,000 sound like mice. I promise you that there isn't another stadium in our division like Montana's stadium and fans. It was the loudest place I have ever been to in my life.”
Hofstra Coach Joe Gardi:
“I coached in the NFL with the NY Jets for ten years and I know what crowd noise is. I coached at Maryland...played at Texas, Auburn, LSU, Clemson, in some of the greatest stadiums in the country. I mean, at LSU they used to prod the tiger with an electric shock to get him to roar when you came on the field. It was just unbelievable to a visiting player. In comparison, Montana is a tougher place to play. Because it's so closed in. The noise is so confined. My granddaughter got so scared in that place, she was seven years old, she never let go of her mother the whole first quarter.
One year, I gave my pep talk, went down to the field, and they've got that rubber tunnel set up. I thought, that's nice, it's there to keep fans from throwing things on us. And I get in there, and Monte is there, the flaps are closed, and I couldn't get on the field. Monte told me I'd better back off, and I said 'No, I'm fine.' Then he started the motorcycle, and I about jumped out of my skin. They opened the flaps and the crowd went crazy.
That thing with Monte, the big screen TV, I'm doing a time out one time, and I look up and Tom Cruise is on that screen doing that dance from 'Risky Business,' and I'm watching it! I thought, 'What the heck am I doing, am I crazy? ' It’s all just an unbelievable advantage for the home team.”
Old Dominion Coach Bobby Wilder:
“I have coached in stadiums all over the country in my career. Penn State, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Nebraska to name a few. All of these facilities held 80,000 to 100,000 people. None of these stadiums were as loud as the University of Montana. What made Montana different was the fans were at their loudest when their opponent was on offense. They knew they could eliminate the offensive check system with noise. They were the 12th defender on the field by making the offense predictable. And they took great pleasure in every penalty the visiting team received. They knew that was their penalty.”
Huntsville TX Sports Editor Jason Barfield:
“Everyone has always said Montana has the best crowd in Division I-AA. Well, I'm willing to go one better -- Montana has the best crowd in all of college football. Not only were there more than 23,000 people packed into the stadium, but the fans were loud -- real loud. They were also very knowledgeable. When the Grizzlies were on offense, the stadium was silent. Everyone on the sideline could hear the quarterback audible a play. When the Bearkats were on offense it was totally different. Every single person in the stadium was on their feet making as much noise as possible. It is hard to describe how loud the crowd actually was. Try to imagine standing inside an airplane engine -- it was louder.”
I'm not sure if you know this or not, but we aren't a team coming up from Texas or Virginia or New York or Illinois or North Carolina....etc. who have no idea what Montana football is all about.
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Can’t remember as it’s been a few years since I’ve been in WaGriz but are the goalposts mobile? Is that an upcoming upgrade?
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That’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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Montana State (MSU Bobcats) is indeed the betting favorite for the 124th Brawl of the Wild on Saturday, November 22, 2025, in Missoula (No. 2 Montana Grizzlies hosting No. 3 Montana State Bobcats). The current spread is generally Montana State -1.5 to -2, with an over/under around 59-60 points, reflecting a close, high-scoring expectation.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:57 pmBy betting sites yes. Not by the media and most outside the state analyzing the game. The narrative is that Vigen can't win in Missoula, the Cats already have 2 losses and the griz are undefeated.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:08 pmcats are literally favored to win the gamecoloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:37 amThe griz are supposed to win this game. It's at home. They are undefeated. They are getting more media favoritism due to their record. That's a lot to live up to, especially after getting smacked around by a real defense to start the game.
The Bobcats are the better team and are assumed to be underdogs because the game is in Missoula. They'll have a chip on their shoulders, ready to show the country that this team is different and isn't intimidated by anyone.
The griz appear to feel a little too comfortable at home because in close games the other team has found ways to lose more than the griz finding a way to win. But those teams weren't the Bobcats. The Cats will punch them in the mouth from the start and play 60 minutes, with Lamson leading the way.
Betting Odds and Computer Models
• Most sportsbooks (e.g., FanDuel, FOX Bet lines) list MSU as 1.5-point road favorites.
• Dimers.com’s 10,000-simulation model projects a razor-thin edge to Montana (predicted score ~30-29 Grizzlies), but still sees it as essentially a toss-up.
Expert and Pundit Consensus
Pundits and analysts are heavily leaning toward Montana State to win outright and cover, citing the Bobcats’ more complete team this season (stronger lines, better consistency, elite defense allowing just 16.1 PPG in Big Sky play), even on the road.
Key picks and commentary:
• HERO Sports (Sam Herder) → Picks Montana State, saying “Montana State has looked like the more complete team than Montana and has played with more consistency. The Bobcats look better on the lines as well.”
• Underdog Dynasty preview → Highlights MSU’s momentum and coaching edge under Brent Vigen, implying the Bobcats are the sharper heading in.
• 406 MT Sports / local Montana media panels → Most writers and former players are picking the Bobcats to “cage the Grizzlies” in Missoula.
• SI.com playoff projections → Assumes a Montana State win in their bracket (Bobcats get the Big Sky auto-bid and a top-3 seed).
• National FCS analysts generally view MSU as the hotter, more battle-tested team after strong wins over ranked opponents, while Montana’s undefeated record (11-0) is respected but seen as slightly softer.
Contrarian Views
A few contrarian voices (and the home crowd vibe) are going with the Grizzlies pulling the upset — ZooMontana’s porcupine predictor picked UM, some local Missoula street polls lean Griz, and the Dimers model gives Montana a slight probability edge. Washington-Grizzly Stadium is one of the toughest places to play in the FCS, and Bobby Hauck’s teams historically show up huge in these rivalry games.
Bottom line from the pundit world: Most experts are on Montana State to win a close one (something like 31-27 or 34-30), taking the points with the Bobcats. It’s expected to be an instant FCS classic either way — winner likely gets the Big Sky title and a top-2 playoff seed. Enjoy the game!
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What year did AI pull this data from?Robert Martin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:37 pmMontana State (MSU Bobcats) is indeed the betting favorite for the 124th Brawl of the Wild on Saturday, November 22, 2025, in Missoula (No. 2 Montana Grizzlies hosting No. 3 Montana State Bobcats). The current spread is generally Montana State -1.5 to -2, with an over/under around 59-60 points, reflecting a close, high-scoring expectation.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:57 pmBy betting sites yes. Not by the media and most outside the state analyzing the game. The narrative is that Vigen can't win in Missoula, the Cats already have 2 losses and the griz are undefeated.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:08 pmcats are literally favored to win the gamecoloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:37 amThe griz are supposed to win this game. It's at home. They are undefeated. They are getting more media favoritism due to their record. That's a lot to live up to, especially after getting smacked around by a real defense to start the game.
The Bobcats are the better team and are assumed to be underdogs because the game is in Missoula. They'll have a chip on their shoulders, ready to show the country that this team is different and isn't intimidated by anyone.
The griz appear to feel a little too comfortable at home because in close games the other team has found ways to lose more than the griz finding a way to win. But those teams weren't the Bobcats. The Cats will punch them in the mouth from the start and play 60 minutes, with Lamson leading the way.
Betting Odds and Computer Models
• Most sportsbooks (e.g., FanDuel, FOX Bet lines) list MSU as 1.5-point road favorites.
• Dimers.com’s 10,000-simulation model projects a razor-thin edge to Montana (predicted score ~30-29 Grizzlies), but still sees it as essentially a toss-up.
Expert and Pundit Consensus
Pundits and analysts are heavily leaning toward Montana State to win outright and cover, citing the Bobcats’ more complete team this season (stronger lines, better consistency, elite defense allowing just 16.1 PPG in Big Sky play), even on the road.
Key picks and commentary:
• HERO Sports (Sam Herder) → Picks Montana State, saying “Montana State has looked like the more complete team than Montana and has played with more consistency. The Bobcats look better on the lines as well.”
• Underdog Dynasty preview → Highlights MSU’s momentum and coaching edge under Brent Vigen, implying the Bobcats are the sharper heading in.
• 406 MT Sports / local Montana media panels → Most writers and former players are picking the Bobcats to “cage the Grizzlies” in Missoula.
• SI.com playoff projections → Assumes a Montana State win in their bracket (Bobcats get the Big Sky auto-bid and a top-3 seed).
• National FCS analysts generally view MSU as the hotter, more battle-tested team after strong wins over ranked opponents, while Montana’s undefeated record (11-0) is respected but seen as slightly softer.
Contrarian Views
A few contrarian voices (and the home crowd vibe) are going with the Grizzlies pulling the upset — ZooMontana’s porcupine predictor picked UM, some local Missoula street polls lean Griz, and the Dimers model gives Montana a slight probability edge. Washington-Grizzly Stadium is one of the toughest places to play in the FCS, and Bobby Hauck’s teams historically show up huge in these rivalry games.
Bottom line from the pundit world: Most experts are on Montana State to win a close one (something like 31-27 or 34-30), taking the points with the Bobcats. It’s expected to be an instant FCS classic either way — winner likely gets the Big Sky title and a top-2 playoff seed. Enjoy the game!![]()
Eastwood, did not make it. Ball out! Recovered, by Montana State!! The Bobcats hold!!! The Bobcats hold!!!
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I said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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The Cats are also 4-3 IN Missoula during this arbitrary timeline you’ve chosen.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:46 pmI said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
You have no point. If they haven’t thrown for more than 1 TD in a game in Missoula during that time (I don’t know if thats accurate, not worth my time to fact check that), and they’ve won 4 of those 7 games, then so what?
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Yes because past performance always indicates future results, especially in modern college football. I suspect he won't NEED more than one because we're going to run all over you but I'd bet on him getting more than 1.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:46 pmI said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
That’s my point, if you read what I said, instead of getting all worked up over the passing yardage stat. The Cats haven’t thrown for more than 1 TD in Missoula since 2010. I said if the Cats don’t need a passing game and can get the running game rolling, the Griz will be in trouble. But if the Cats have to look for TDs through the air to win, it’s a different matter. It wasn’t an arbitrary timeframe — simply looking back to the last time the Cats threw for at least 2 TDs in Missoula.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:53 pmThe Cats are also 4-3 IN Missoula during this arbitrary timeline you’ve chosen.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:46 pmI said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
You have no point. If they haven’t thrown for more than 1 TD in a game in Missoula during that time (I don’t know if thats accurate, not worth my time to fact check that), and they’ve won 4 of those 7 games, then so what?
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GoodTimesAllTheTime
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
In 2018, Troy had completions down to the Griz 7 and to the 3 that they ran in for TDs. There’s no critical difference between that and passing TDs. It’s totally arbitrary to say that they need passing TDs, instead of an effective passing game. But go ahead, keep changing your argument. I think the Griz should be more worried about stopping Jones from putting up 200 on the ground again first and foremost though.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:46 pmI said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
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ilovethecats
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
So funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
That's because the Cats haven't had a true passing qb since McGhee or Prukop. And your secondary isn't very good this year. If the Cats can handle the blitzing, Lamson could carve up your defense. We'll see what happens.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 5:16 pmThat’s my point, if you read what I said, instead of getting all worked up over the passing yardage stat. The Cats haven’t thrown for more than 1 TD in Missoula since 2010. I said if the Cats don’t need a passing game and can get the running game rolling, the Griz will be in trouble. But if the Cats have to look for TDs through the air to win, it’s a different matter. It wasn’t an arbitrary timeframe — simply looking back to the last time the Cats threw for at least 2 TDs in Missoula.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:53 pmThe Cats are also 4-3 IN Missoula during this arbitrary timeline you’ve chosen.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:46 pmI said the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds since 2010. You corrected me on the 100-yd piece. Thank you. The Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD since 2010. If Lamson needs more than one through the air, it will be a long day for the Cats.GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:19 pmThat’s not what you said. Just making things up. Unable to actually talk football at all. No wonder you guys take nice things every coach says about opposing stadiums and try to put it on a billboard.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:03 pmOK, so one question: When was the last time the Cats passed for 2 TDs in Missoula?GoodTimesAllTheTime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:58 pmWhy do you guys just make stuff up? The Cats passed for 247 and a TD in 2012. Troy Andersen, not a quarterback, passed for 158 in Missoula in 2018. McKay, who looked like he had PTSD for the back half of the season, threw for over 100 and a TD in 2021. Lamson played on the road against Clemson. I know you have all those quotes saved up about people glazing how special Missoula is, but c’mon man.OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:25 pmThe Cats could win. The best ass kickings the Cats have delivered to the home team in Missoula were running games (the Cats haven’t passed for more than 1 TD or 100 yds in Missoula since 2010). If the Cats run the ball, the Griz could be cooked. But if the Cats need a couple TDs in the air, here’s what Lamson is walking into:kcatz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 pmDepends which BSC Ref team shows upSt George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:12 pmWhat is the over under on Bobcats getting called for roughing the passer every time someone touches E I E I Yat?cat_stache_fever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pmFeel like playing Pinnick last Saturday is a blessing in disguise. KAY is fairly athletic but not close to what Pinnick is. I think our Dline can and will get KAY running around. Can see him getting teed up a few times.
You have no point. If they haven’t thrown for more than 1 TD in a game in Missoula during that time (I don’t know if thats accurate, not worth my time to fact check that), and they’ve won 4 of those 7 games, then so what?

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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
Passing Defenseilovethecats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:05 pmSo funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
2025 Conference Stats
COMP
Cats - 229
Griz - 235
ATT
Cats - 380
Griz - 408
INT
Cats - 10
Griz - 18
PCT
Cats - 60.3
Griz - 57.6
TD
Cats - 14
Griz - 15
SACKS
Cats - 20
Griz - 25
EFFIC
Cats - 115.2 (1st)
Griz - 120.5 (2nd)
The visiting QB won’t be able to hear anything on the field except his earpiece, and he won’t be heard. The home QB won’t have the same handicap. The passing defense stats aren’t wildly different.
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
For some reason you didn’t include passing yards allowed. Didn’t fit the argument?OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:03 pmPassing Defenseilovethecats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:05 pmSo funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
2025 Conference Stats
COMP
Cats - 229
Griz - 235
ATT
Cats - 380
Griz - 408
INT
Cats - 10
Griz - 18
PCT
Cats - 60.3
Griz - 57.6
TD
Cats - 14
Griz - 15
SACKS
Cats - 20
Griz - 25
EFFIC
Cats - 115.2 (1st)
Griz - 120.5 (2nd)
The visiting QB won’t be able to hear anything on the field except his earpiece, and he won’t be heard. The home QB won’t have the same handicap. The passing defense stats aren’t wildly different.
Fwiw, UM is allowing 303 passing yards per game in conference play. They’re allowing 312 passing yards at home against conference opponents.
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
That’s because for the total of 700-yard difference between the two defenses over the conference season, the result is Montana allowed 1 more passing touchdown than the Cats.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:52 pmFor some reason you didn’t include passing yards allowed. Didn’t fit the argument?OldGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:03 pmPassing Defenseilovethecats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:05 pmSo funny. Like am I the only person who has seen their defense? Specifically their pass D? Now suddenly we’re in trouble if we have to try and pass against it? Man I swear this week leading into the game gets weirder every year. It’s like what you’ve shown the entire season just suddenly doesn’t matter or something! Lol
2025 Conference Stats
COMP
Cats - 229
Griz - 235
ATT
Cats - 380
Griz - 408
INT
Cats - 10
Griz - 18
PCT
Cats - 60.3
Griz - 57.6
TD
Cats - 14
Griz - 15
SACKS
Cats - 20
Griz - 25
EFFIC
Cats - 115.2 (1st)
Griz - 120.5 (2nd)
The visiting QB won’t be able to hear anything on the field except his earpiece, and he won’t be heard. The home QB won’t have the same handicap. The passing defense stats aren’t wildly different.
Fwiw, UM is allowing 303 passing yards per game in conference play. They’re allowing 312 passing yards at home against conference opponents.
I’m not saying the Griz defense is better than the Cats. The Cats have a better defense, including pass defense. But for the guy who expects Lamson and company to have a field day in the air tomorrow, because the Griz can’t defend, well, it would be fun to see their faces come game time.
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Re: Does Ah Yat Crumble
Probably best, olegris, to just stick to how loud it is in wagris.
Can't make up my mind as to which is better - 55-21 or 48-14, but 34-11 will do.