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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by The Butcher » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:11 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:50 pm
The Butcher wrote:
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So how did the griz have such a hard time against a below average ISU?
Yep, I think they only had 122 yards rushing.
Or maybe the griz soften up ISU for the Cats? 🤔



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Cataholic » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:33 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:50 pm
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Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:38 pm
So how did the griz have such a hard time against a below average ISU?
Yep, I think they only had 122 yards rushing.
Adam Jones had 130 at the half.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Cataholic » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:39 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:38 pm
So how did the griz have such a hard time against a below average ISU?
Cats dominate ISU. Gris barely get by ISU. Cats dominate #13 NAU on the road. Gris have a tough time with Cal Poly at home. Gris win against Idaho does not look good as Idaho struggles with UNC today. Is there any question that MSU should be ranked higher than UM? It will be decided on the field in a couple of weeks, but the eye test is clearly in favor of the Cats.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by iaafan » Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:00 am

Cataholic wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:39 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:38 pm
So how did the griz have such a hard time against a below average ISU?
Cats dominate ISU. Gris barely get by ISU. Cats dominate #13 NAU on the road. Gris have a tough time with Cal Poly at home. Gris win against Idaho does not look good as Idaho struggles with UNC today. Is there any question that MSU should be ranked higher than UM? It will be decided on the field in a couple of weeks, but the eye test is clearly in favor of the Cats.
I don’t want to be ranked ahead of them. I love hearing them talk about how they’re better than us because “We’Re rAnKeD HiGhER!” :roll:



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by iaafan » Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:04 am

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Interesting that gris fans are posting a lot about how great the ISU QB is, and how he's the best QB that um will see all season long. They are also saying that MSU shouldn't have an issue shutting him down and should beat ISU easily. But yet somehow, UM is still the better team in their eyes.

I'm having a hard time following their logic.
The logic is: if the MSU vs ISU game is close, then UM did match up well with ISU and MSU didn't match up well ISU. So, MSU fans should be rooting for a close game vs ISU or even an ISU win. :wink:
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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by RickRund » Sun Oct 12, 2025 9:01 am

On social media several gris fans are really going overboard with thinking they need to be ranked just below Oregon. Every excuse in the books. I am now the own of several new nicknames.

Well, but your game with Mercyhurst, etc, etc…


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by golden77 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:05 pm

I guess we could have played a division II team instead of Oregon. Then we could have also scheduled 8 home games, does anyone else in the conference have 8 home games. Something tells me this is going to be the new norm in Meccaville, schedule 8 homegames and one DII school and then pound there chests about being undefeated.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by OldGriz » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:43 pm

golden77 wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:05 pm
I guess we could have played a division II team instead of Oregon. Then we could have also scheduled 8 home games, does anyone else in the conference have 8 home games. Something tells me this is going to be the new norm in Meccaville, schedule 8 homegames and one DII school and then pound there chests about being undefeated.
Oregon was solely for the cash. Everyone knew the Cats would get blown out. Both UM and MSU do that occasionally. The last Big Sky Conference team to beat a ranked FBS team in a money game was the Griz. As for Central Washington, they are a highly ranked program that probably could beat Mercyhurst and San Diego.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by golden77 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:54 pm

I also think the Bobcats could probably beat everyone the Grizzlies have beat



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by OldGriz » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:56 pm

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I also think the Bobcats could probably beat everyone the Grizzlies have beat
I agree.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Cataholic » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm

The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Rich K » Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:31 am

This Saturday’s gris game against Sacred Heart will be a hell of a lot closer than the pundits suggest. I think the Pioneers are the best of the ooc patsies that the gris payed to beat. Gris overrated and SHU underrated gris come from behind 32-28 Gris and the word from Missoula is the Pioneers will rule the CAA when they join them next year. Close win will be enough for the gris to stay at their current poll position of course.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by OldGriz » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:32 am

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm
The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.
The Cats scheduled cream puffs at home. San Diego and Mercyhurst are worse than Central Washington. South Dakota State is no cream puff, but they almost lost to Youngstown and ended up escaping with a 5-point win. The FCS coaches and FCS writers see it differently than you do. That’s why the Griz are ranked above the Cats.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by coachouert » Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:11 am

OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:32 am
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm
The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.
The Cats scheduled cream puffs at home. San Diego and Mercyhurst are worse than Central Washington. South Dakota State is no cream puff, but they almost lost to Youngstown and ended up escaping with a 5-point win. The FCS coaches and FCS writers see it differently than you do. That’s why the Griz are ranked above the Cats.
Considering Indiana State is currently 218 in Sagarin Ratings along with Sacred Heart being 208 while Mercyhurst is 206, and San Diego 215, not sure you should be over here thumping your chest about the "cream puffs" that MSU played. It appears that both teams have "cream puffs," but you refuse to acknowledge it.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Prodigal Cat » Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:32 am

They are only ranking the griz there because they are undefeated. IF the griz drop just one game, any game they are out of the top 4 seed talk, ranked in the back half of the top 10, and they can kiss home field in the qtrs and semis goodbye. In fact their schedule is so weak if the 2 Dakota states win out, I'm not sure they would get a top 2 over the loser of the Marker even if they are undefeated.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by catatac » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:28 pm

Rich K wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:31 am
This Saturday’s gris game against Sacred Heart will be a hell of a lot closer than the pundits suggest. I think the Pioneers are the best of the ooc patsies that the gris payed to beat. Gris overrated and SHU underrated gris come from behind 32-28 Gris and the word from Missoula is the Pioneers will rule the CAA when they join them next year. Close win will be enough for the gris to stay at their current poll position of course.
Well depending on how confident you are in all that, you should put a big chunk of change down on SH to cover the spread. The Griz are favored by 30.5 points last I checked. I see what you're saying, and when watching the Griz play against ISU and then CP at home, I kept thinking..... when are the Griz going to do something and start looking like a good football team? Of course if I put a bunch of money down on that game to be closer than a 30 point blowout, that's Exactly the game where the Griz put it all together and everything falls their way and they do blow them out.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by OldGriz » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:44 pm

coachouert wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:11 am
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:32 am
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm
The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.
The Cats scheduled cream puffs at home. San Diego and Mercyhurst are worse than Central Washington. South Dakota State is no cream puff, but they almost lost to Youngstown and ended up escaping with a 5-point win. The FCS coaches and FCS writers see it differently than you do. That’s why the Griz are ranked above the Cats.
Considering Indiana State is currently 218 in Sagarin Ratings along with Sacred Heart being 208 while Mercyhurst is 206, and San Diego 215, not sure you should be over here thumping your chest about the "cream puffs" that MSU played. It appears that both teams have "cream puffs," but you refuse to acknowledge it.
I don’t think I disagree with you. Both teams scheduled some cream puffs. The people I disagree with are those who say the Griz schedule is substantially weaker than the Cat schedule (not counting Oregon that was purely for $$$). The schedules are comparable. Cat-Griz game will be fun.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Cataholic » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:04 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:44 pm
coachouert wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:11 am
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:32 am
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm
The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.
The Cats scheduled cream puffs at home. San Diego and Mercyhurst are worse than Central Washington. South Dakota State is no cream puff, but they almost lost to Youngstown and ended up escaping with a 5-point win. The FCS coaches and FCS writers see it differently than you do. That’s why the Griz are ranked above the Cats.
Considering Indiana State is currently 218 in Sagarin Ratings along with Sacred Heart being 208 while Mercyhurst is 206, and San Diego 215, not sure you should be over here thumping your chest about the "cream puffs" that MSU played. It appears that both teams have "cream puffs," but you refuse to acknowledge it.
I don’t think I disagree with you. Both teams scheduled some cream puffs. The people I disagree with are those who say the Griz schedule is substantially weaker than the Cat schedule (not counting Oregon that was purely for $$$). The schedules are comparable. Cat-Griz game will be fun.
Huh? You are actually saying the Cats and Gris schedules are comparable? :lol: :lol: :lol: Are you a comedian at your day job? That is a ridiculous take. Maybe you should take your own advice and see what the experts say about the two teams strength of schedule. You guys have a total of 3 FCS teams on this seasons schedule that currently have winning records! And one of them is Sacred Heart! The Cats actually play all the Big Sky teams this season that have winning records, including a demolition of NAU.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by catatac » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:12 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:04 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:44 pm
coachouert wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:11 am
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:32 am
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:59 pm
The Gris have an all time weak schedule. For Old Gris to pump up Central Washington as a legit opponent is hilarious. They would still be at the bottom end of the FCS.

Looking ahead for the Gris final 6 games, they get Sacred Heart from a very weak conference and play the 3 teams at the bottom of the Big Sky conference in EWU, Weber and PSU - all while getting 8 home games. Even their Idaho win looks weak. What a weak schedule.
The Cats scheduled cream puffs at home. San Diego and Mercyhurst are worse than Central Washington. South Dakota State is no cream puff, but they almost lost to Youngstown and ended up escaping with a 5-point win. The FCS coaches and FCS writers see it differently than you do. That’s why the Griz are ranked above the Cats.
Considering Indiana State is currently 218 in Sagarin Ratings along with Sacred Heart being 208 while Mercyhurst is 206, and San Diego 215, not sure you should be over here thumping your chest about the "cream puffs" that MSU played. It appears that both teams have "cream puffs," but you refuse to acknowledge it.
I don’t think I disagree with you. Both teams scheduled some cream puffs. The people I disagree with are those who say the Griz schedule is substantially weaker than the Cat schedule (not counting Oregon that was purely for $$$). The schedules are comparable. Cat-Griz game will be fun.
Huh? You are actually saying the Cats and Gris schedules are comparable? :lol: :lol: :lol: Are you a comedian at your day job? That is a ridiculous take. Maybe you should take your own advice and see what the experts say about the two teams strength of schedule. You guys have a total of 3 FCS teams on this seasons schedule that currently have winning records! And one of them is Sacred Heart! The Cats actually play all the Big Sky teams this season that have winning records, including a demolition of NAU.
Massey has Cats Strength of Schedule #2 in the country, Griz are #43. As far as overall rankings, it goes NDSU, SDSU, MSU, Tarleton, UM, UC Davis.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by golden77 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:26 pm

I don't believe you should count your win over a good division II team. I consider the Griz 5 and 0. In the past years a win over a DII school didn't count towards the mythical number of games you needed to make the playoffs or for seeding. I would assume it hasn't changed. With that reasoning it would be very costly for the griz to just loose 1 game, especially if other high ranked teams have not played a DII. I just personally think that after watching every grizzlies game this year that they were very, very, close to loosing numerous games well into the second half. They made great plays and pulled them all out but you can't tell me there wasn't numerous Griz fans very nervous about the outcome of many of those games.



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