Fall Camp

[BelligerentBobcat]

I watched a couple of hours of practice today and watched the QBs closely. Going to keep this vague. In the small amount of time I was there it was clear that 8 and 13 were the top dogs. There wasn't a clear separation between the two in terms of decision making - both were throwing with good rhythm and not (thankfully) throwing checkdowns every other drop back. No deflections or INTs from those two while I was there. When 13 decides to tuck it and run, he has another gear though - not twitchy like TM, but runs like a deer. Drove in from Great Falls in hopes to calm my nerves about the QBs and I am glad I made the trip. We are going to be more than fine at that position this year imho

I was impressed with the competitiveness of the guys. Didn't see anyone taking reps off and the guys were getting after one another, especially in the 1 on 1 DL vs OL drills. That was FUN to watch! What wasn't fun was the choice of practice music! Would it kill them to play a little Foghat?!

It was also fun to see all of the families moving their kiddos into the dorms. All of the excited kids walking around campus. Great energy on campus. I remember the day 24 years ago when my parents helped me move into Langford Hall like it was yesterday. So excited for these kids. I brought my son and he asked, "How do I get to come here faster dad?" Brought a tear to my eye.

Wilson, 13, is straight line faster than Tommy was. Just not as quick doesn’t get up to speed quite as fast.

Like Tom said above, I wish he (Chance) would have displayed that speed when given the opportunity last season. When he decided to tuck it in practice yesterday, nobody was catching him. Tom has done a great job of referencing his HS T&F times - not sure if it is coaches limiting him or Chance being tentative to tuck it and utilize that 100m speed. Agree with Tom and Belligerent though - you bring in a transfer from Stanford and he is on par with your other in house guy, you play the guy from Stanford. My .02

I just want to clarify something, I don’t believe that Lamson is/will be/should be the starter because he’s a transfer from Stanford. In fact, I would say if two of them are at the same level, start the younger one.

[kwcat]

I watched a couple of hours of practice today and watched the QBs closely. Going to keep this vague. In the small amount of time I was there it was clear that 8 and 13 were the top dogs. There wasn't a clear separation between the two in terms of decision making - both were throwing with good rhythm and not (thankfully) throwing checkdowns every other drop back. No deflections or INTs from those two while I was there. When 13 decides to tuck it and run, he has another gear though - not twitchy like TM, but runs like a deer. Drove in from Great Falls in hopes to calm my nerves about the QBs and I am glad I made the trip. We are going to be more than fine at that position this year imho

I was impressed with the competitiveness of the guys. Didn't see anyone taking reps off and the guys were getting after one another, especially in the 1 on 1 DL vs OL drills. That was FUN to watch! What wasn't fun was the choice of practice music! Would it kill them to play a little Foghat?!

It was also fun to see all of the families moving their kiddos into the dorms. All of the excited kids walking around campus. Great energy on campus. I remember the day 24 years ago when my parents helped me move into Langford Hall like it was yesterday. So excited for these kids. I brought my son and he asked, "How do I get to come here faster dad?" Brought a tear to my eye.

Wilson, 13, is straight line faster than Tommy was. Just not as quick doesn’t get up to speed quite as fast.

Like Tom said above, I wish he (Chance) would have displayed that speed when given the opportunity last season. When he decided to tuck it in practice yesterday, nobody was catching him. Tom has done a great job of referencing his HS T&F times - not sure if it is coaches limiting him or Chance being tentative to tuck it and utilize that 100m speed. Agree with Tom and Belligerent though - you bring in a transfer from Stanford and he is on par with your other in house guy, you play the guy from Stanford. My .02

I just want to clarify something, I don’t believe that Lamson is/will be/should be the starter because he’s a transfer from Stanford. In fact, I would say if two of them are at the same level, start the younger one.

I would agree. I think there is so much discussion between the current top three choices primarily because they have different strength. Not 100% sure which one transfers best into the newer scheme.

[Clinton T]

I watched a couple of hours of practice today and watched the QBs closely. Going to keep this vague. In the small amount of time I was there it was clear that 8 and 13 were the top dogs. There wasn't a clear separation between the two in terms of decision making - both were throwing with good rhythm and not (thankfully) throwing checkdowns every other drop back. No deflections or INTs from those two while I was there. When 13 decides to tuck it and run, he has another gear though - not twitchy like TM, but runs like a deer. Drove in from Great Falls in hopes to calm my nerves about the QBs and I am glad I made the trip. We are going to be more than fine at that position this year imho

I was impressed with the competitiveness of the guys. Didn't see anyone taking reps off and the guys were getting after one another, especially in the 1 on 1 DL vs OL drills. That was FUN to watch! What wasn't fun was the choice of practice music! Would it kill them to play a little Foghat?!

It was also fun to see all of the families moving their kiddos into the dorms. All of the excited kids walking around campus. Great energy on campus. I remember the day 24 years ago when my parents helped me move into Langford Hall like it was yesterday. So excited for these kids. I brought my son and he asked, "How do I get to come here faster dad?" Brought a tear to my eye.

Wilson, 13, is straight line faster than Tommy was. Just not as quick doesn’t get up to speed quite as fast.

Like Tom said above, I wish he (Chance) would have displayed that speed when given the opportunity last season. When he decided to tuck it in practice yesterday, nobody was catching him. Tom has done a great job of referencing his HS T&F times - not sure if it is coaches limiting him or Chance being tentative to tuck it and utilize that 100m speed. Agree with Tom and Belligerent though - you bring in a transfer from Stanford and he is on par with your other in house guy, you play the guy from Stanford. My .02

I just want to clarify something, I don’t believe that Lamson is/will be/should be the starter because he’s a transfer from Stanford. In fact, I would say if two of them are at the same level, start the younger one.

My apologies. Not sure why I thought you had mentioned that. Maybe I inferred it. Either way, I agree that he will start. Announcement today or tomorrow, correct?

[BelligerentBobcat]

I watched a couple of hours of practice today and watched the QBs closely. Going to keep this vague. In the small amount of time I was there it was clear that 8 and 13 were the top dogs. There wasn't a clear separation between the two in terms of decision making - both were throwing with good rhythm and not (thankfully) throwing checkdowns every other drop back. No deflections or INTs from those two while I was there. When 13 decides to tuck it and run, he has another gear though - not twitchy like TM, but runs like a deer. Drove in from Great Falls in hopes to calm my nerves about the QBs and I am glad I made the trip. We are going to be more than fine at that position this year imho

I was impressed with the competitiveness of the guys. Didn't see anyone taking reps off and the guys were getting after one another, especially in the 1 on 1 DL vs OL drills. That was FUN to watch! What wasn't fun was the choice of practice music! Would it kill them to play a little Foghat?!

It was also fun to see all of the families moving their kiddos into the dorms. All of the excited kids walking around campus. Great energy on campus. I remember the day 24 years ago when my parents helped me move into Langford Hall like it was yesterday. So excited for these kids. I brought my son and he asked, "How do I get to come here faster dad?" Brought a tear to my eye.

Wilson, 13, is straight line faster than Tommy was. Just not as quick doesn’t get up to speed quite as fast.

Like Tom said above, I wish he (Chance) would have displayed that speed when given the opportunity last season. When he decided to tuck it in practice yesterday, nobody was catching him. Tom has done a great job of referencing his HS T&F times - not sure if it is coaches limiting him or Chance being tentative to tuck it and utilize that 100m speed. Agree with Tom and Belligerent though - you bring in a transfer from Stanford and he is on par with your other in house guy, you play the guy from Stanford. My .02

I just want to clarify something, I don’t believe that Lamson is/will be/should be the starter because he’s a transfer from Stanford. In fact, I would say if two of them are at the same level, start the younger one.

My apologies. Not sure why I thought you had mentioned that. Maybe I inferred it. Either way, I agree that he will start. Announcement today or tomorrow, correct?

If I understood Vigen correctly, the team will know tomorrow, they’ll make a formal announcement when they release the depth chart on Saturday.

[AFCAT]

[AFCAT]

[TomCat88]

My first attempt at getting Vim to speak:

Lamson, Wilson, Duchein
Jones, Davis, Coon, White
Jefferson, Zimmer
Reed, Ezekiel
Mastel, Nyland, Winters
Carr, Rollins,
Fleishmann, Kaplan
Provience, Schlepp, Lencioni, Valcin
Dowler, Steel
Long, Woods, King
Trimble, King, Reed
Sansted

Eiden IV, Parsons, Brock
Brott, Marsh, Sharbono
Eckert, Black, Asuega
Crews, Solano, Vigen
Grebe, Taylor
Daily, Krahe
Gray, Dolan
Dowler, Petre, Ross
Uluilakepa, Meredith
Carr, Johnson
McMillan, Williams
Frokjer

[BelligerentBobcat]

I think Dolan is backing up Gray.

[catzz]

Where is VIM?

I’m high on the Florence kid. He looks the part and throws a great ball, but I think he takes a few too many chances for the coaches. Very comfortable and patient in the pocket. Also, haven’t seen much of what, if any, his running ability is. He could be a great one in another year or two. He had a couple 15 yard passes up the middle in the scrimmage that should have been caught. Those things happen and our running game can do anything it wants.

Wilson needs to open up the wheels to give himself an edge. Seen it a couple times, but he has a pass-first mindset. Also sees the middle of the field and will take some chances on 50/50 deeper balls. I like it. Also young and could be great in another year, if not this year if he opens it up.

Lamson tends to play it safe, throws a great ball, but gets the yips at times and goes to his first option when the pressure is on. He can settle down, and when he does, he looks great! His first two plays of the scrimmage against the starting D were 5-yard passes over the middle. I’d welcome that all day.

All three could be great, and I’ll be pretty excited for any of them to put their mark on the offense. Passing game with any of them will be an improvement. The playbook is going to be different this year, and I’m here for it! The QB spot isn’t a worrisome for me. We will see what it does to the running game I suppose. Think we will be just fine on offense.

Personally, I feel like it’s between Duchien and Lamson, and the safe choice is Lamson. The team is good with any of the three. WRs are high on Duchien.


I’m excited for any of them, and there doesn’t seem to be much of a drop-off.

Should be another good year to be a Bobcat!

[catzz]

My first attempt at getting Vim to speak:

Lamson, Wilson, Duchein
Jones, Davis, Coon, White
Jefferson, Zimmer
Reed, Ezekiel
Mastel, Nyland, Winters
Carr, Rollins,
Fleishmann, Kaplan
Provience, Schlepp, Lencioni, Valcin
Dowler, Steel
Long, Woods, King
Trimble, King, Reed
Sansted

Eiden IV, Parsons, Brock
Brott, Marsh, Sharbono
Eckert, Black, Asuega
Crews, Solano, Vigen
Grebe, Taylor
Daily, Krahe
Gray, Dolan
Dowler, Petre, Ross
Uluilakepa, Meredith
Carr, Johnson
McMillan, Williams
Frokjer

Zimmer is going to be on the field. He is the Conner Moore of 2025.

[onceacat]

Taylor was Lamson's coach at Stanford, I believe.

Sure was.

Troy Taylor is one of the best FCS coaches in history...and hes a QB whisperer.

Interesting.

[onceacat]

I'm not really sure why it's necessary to throw Tommy under the bus on order to elevate Lamson. Good grief he hasn't been made QB1 yet, and hasn't played a snap. Until he does, Tommy is one of the best QBs MSU has fielded and we should be grateful for what he brought to the team, both as a player, as a representative for the university, and as a genuine great person.
To think he's irreplaceable is also wrong. There will be others who are better, as that is what college football demands and creates. This program, in the short time that I've been a fan, (15 years) has grown into something terrific! I'm excited to see who the next Walter Payton award winner is from MSU, who actually leads the team to that National Championship win, and next undefeated season.
Tommy left his mark on this program and made it better, maybe Lamson will too. Let's wait and see.

Who has thrown Tommy under the bus?

There just seems to be several who feel the need to address all Tommy's faults in this thread, in comparison to how great Lamson is, or will be, and it just hit me wrong since we don't even know if he'll be QB1, and hasn't played a snap. I hope he'll be awesome, I hope all our QBs will. And someday there will be a better QB playing for MSUZ than Tommy, of course.

I think it’s okay to rationally talk about potential differences of players. It should be okay to say he wasn’t the best passing QB in the world. It’s nothing personal.

If Tommy were a elite passer, he wouldn't be trying to make the Raiders roster as a WR.

He was an absurdly great athlete playing out of position...who DESPITE playing out of position is still a 50-50 shot to make a 53 man NFL roster.

At a different position than he won the Payton Award.

Which should really tell everyone everything they need to know.

As an athlete & a leader, hes going to be tough to replace. As a QB? Things are going to be just fine.

[Common Cat]

Honestly most of these interviews are the same year in year out. “We’re optimistic, these guys are showing really good stuff, we’re coming together as a team…etc, etc”. And if we are even more honest, the player ones are almost all carbon copies. That being said, the Sterbick one has some good and new info on our offensive identity. I really like what I saw!

[Common Cat]

Apply the previous post to this video. Oops!

[TomCat88]

Honestly most of these interviews are the same year in year out. “We’re optimistic, these guys are showing really good stuff, we’re coming together as a team…etc, etc”. And if we are even more honest, the player ones are almost all carbon copies. That being said, the Sterbick one has some good and new info on our offensive identity. I really like what I saw!

Really? I honestly hear some of that but also a lot of new or revealing stuff in all of the ones I watch. And I’ve been surprised at the lack of posts about them.

[ClowderUp]

Honestly most of these interviews are the same year in year out. “We’re optimistic, these guys are showing really good stuff, we’re coming together as a team…etc, etc”. And if we are even more honest, the player ones are almost all carbon copies. That being said, the Sterbick one has some good and new info on our offensive identity. I really like what I saw!

Really? I honestly hear some of that but also a lot of new or revealing stuff in all of the ones I watch. And I’ve been surprised at the lack of posts about them.

I'm with Tomcat in this. The interviews have been exceptional in both quantity and quality. The reporters are doing a great job getting the most out their opportunities. There's been very little "coach speak" IMO with very authentic/direct answers to questions.

[AFCAT]

[Common Cat]

Honestly most of these interviews are the same year in year out. “We’re optimistic, these guys are showing really good stuff, we’re coming together as a team…etc, etc”. And if we are even more honest, the player ones are almost all carbon copies. That being said, the Sterbick one has some good and new info on our offensive identity. I really like what I saw!

Really? I honestly hear some of that but also a lot of new or revealing stuff in all of the ones I watch. And I’ve been surprised at the lack of posts about them.

I'm with Tomcat in this. The interviews have been exceptional in both quantity and quality. The reporters are doing a great job getting the most out their opportunities. There's been very little "coach speak" IMO with very authentic/direct answers to questions.

The media has been doing an amazing job. My original comment has nothing to do with their questions. And I agree there hasn’t been a proliferation of coach speak. That being said, I thought Sterbick’s interview was more revelatory than others I’ve seen in quite a while. For the first time in quite a while we probably won’t feature a run heavy qb system and the way he talks about attacking vacated space was something I hadn’t heard before.

[TomCat88]

There's a great interview by Colter with Coach Howe on his ESPN Spotify.

[Common Cat]

There's a great interview by Colter with Coach Howe on his ESPN Spotify.

Howe is awesome to listen to.