MSU helps griz band fundraising

[Griznationalist]

Kcatz, you are correct. MSU had a choice between using warmers or not using warmers. The NCAA does not provide warmers. MSU wanted to use warmers. UM’s willingness to provide theirs for the visiting team to use made it happen. Cooperation and contributions that take place between two great universities, MSU and UM, are not veiled jabs or shrewd strategies. Sometimes people and institutions can just be nice to each other. We’re fortunate it happens a lot in Montana.

I've never seen heated benches on the MSU sideline. Feel free to prove me wrong, though, and I'll stand corrected.

The guys who bear the burden of proof are those who claim UM sent sideline warmers to Bozeman to help MSU’s opponent. That’s just crap spread by butt hurt people. There are NCAA rules in place for the host institution, like Kcatz said.

No, the burden of proof is on you, when you're the one who said MSU used warmers.

I am not going to attempt to prove that MSU did not have sideline warmers at a particular game because that would be crazy, like the conspiracy theories that circulate among the still butt hurt.

[91catAlum]

Kcatz, you are correct. MSU had a choice between using warmers or not using warmers. The NCAA does not provide warmers. MSU wanted to use warmers. UM’s willingness to provide theirs for the visiting team to use made it happen. Cooperation and contributions that take place between two great universities, MSU and UM, are not veiled jabs or shrewd strategies. Sometimes people and institutions can just be nice to each other. We’re fortunate it happens a lot in Montana.

I've never seen heated benches on the MSU sideline. Feel free to prove me wrong, though, and I'll stand corrected.

The guys who bear the burden of proof are those who claim UM sent sideline warmers to Bozeman to help MSU’s opponent. That’s just crap spread by butt hurt people. There are NCAA rules in place for the host institution, like Kcatz said.

No, the burden of proof is on you, when you're the one who said MSU used warmers.

I am not going to attempt to prove that MSU did not have sideline warmers at a particular game because that would be crazy, like the conspiracy theories that circulate among the still butt hurt.

That's fine but don't make the claim.
There nothing conspiratorial about it. All I said was I've never seen heated benches on the MSU side.

I also said I'm happy to be proven wrong. And now I'm a conspiracy theorist lol.

[Cats15]

I am fine with it because for $3000, MSU has received a ton of publicity. I have seen it on a lot of different news outlets. MSU comes out looking good, UM not so much.

[Bobcat4Ever]

How many gris band members will be entering the transfer portal? Any that the Spirit of the West would like to have?

[Rich K]

I am fine with it because for $3000, MSU has received a ton of publicity. I have seen it on a lot of different news outlets. MSU comes out looking good, UM not so much.

Now we just need to have some enterprising young journalist ask Bobby about the money. He will step on his poncho avoiding a MSU compliment.

[nanacat]

I am fine with it because for $3000, MSU has received a ton of publicity. I have seen it on a lot of different news outlets. MSU comes out looking good, UM not so much.

This!

[catscat]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

[Cat Grad]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

Not to mention the School of Nursing. Does MU count the MSU students enrolled in MU's nursing program as their students just because they are taking their classes in Missoula?

[coachouert]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

Not to mention the School of Nursing. Does MU count the MSU students enrolled in MU's nursing program as their students just because they are taking their classes in Missoula?

They do not. Students in MSU’s clinical level nursing courses are still enrolled MSU students whether they are in Missoula, Billings, Great Falls, Bozeman or Kalispell for that clinical experience.

As an aside, the MSU Bookstore is independent of the university and operates as an independent entity.

[Cat Grad]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

Not to mention the School of Nursing. Does MU count the MSU students enrolled in MU's nursing program as their students just because they are taking their classes in Missoula?

They do not. Students in MSU’s clinical level nursing courses are still enrolled MSU students whether they are in Missoula, Billings, Great Falls, Bozeman or Kalispell for that clinical experience.

As an aside, the MSU Bookstore is independent of the university and operates as an independent entity.

So, how many MSU nursing students are taking coursework in Missoula? Have you checked those numbers to ensure their FTE Count does not include those kids? You know, like the old Carroll College Chain for the opposing team--12 yards...

[John K]

I am fine with it because for $3000, MSU has received a ton of publicity. I have seen it on a lot of different news outlets. MSU comes out looking good, UM not so much.

Now we just need to have some enterprising young journalist ask Bobby about the money. He will step on his poncho avoiding a MSU compliment.

Seriously, I really wish someone in the media would have the stones to ask him about that. He might be forced to say something nice about MSU for the first time in his pathetic wretched life.

[Joe Bobcat]

I am fine with it because for $3000, MSU has received a ton of publicity. I have seen it on a lot of different news outlets. MSU comes out looking good, UM not so much.

Now we just need to have some enterprising young journalist ask Bobby about the money. He will step on his poncho avoiding a MSU compliment.

Seriously, I really wish someone in the media would have the stones to ask him about that. He might be forced to say something nice about MSU for the first time in his pathetic wretched life.

I don't know John K but I think Bobby would answer more like this. "I don't know why you'd ask that question, it has nothing to do with us as a football team preparing to play in the national championship game. Why are you here if you don't have anything to ask about football". (At the same time picture Bobby wrinkling his face, scowling and shaking his head like he can't believe anyone would ask such a question)

[Cataholic]

Mr. Walberg says "F**k the Cats but thanks for the $3000".
And that's why I'm not in favor of giving money to our rival. Go ahead and tell me I'm a bad fan now. I couldn't care less.

The fact that some people on BN respect this guy always surprises me. But then again, there are a lot of people that fall for trolling from griz fans here so maybe I should temper my expectations.

Why? I have close friends that say FTG all day every day. It's a rivalry. We don't like the Griz. The griz don't like the Cats. Our fans chant eat ****** griz at every home game. So why is a griz fan saying FTC any different?

Because we just made a kind gesture to contribute $3,000 to help their band travel to Frisco. Not that complicated. To say FTC at that moment is completely classless.

[aucat]

I have mixed feelings about this. As I recall, when we went to Frisco our band also had to raise a bunch of money to make the trip. I'm all about good sportsmanship and class, but I really think that each institution should be responsible for this sort of thing. On the other hand I know that musicians consider themelves as "brothers and sisters of music" so to speak. I personally have always enjoyed the "drumline competition" at the end of the Cat-Griz game here in Bozeman. Of course, we won't see that happen again.

But back to the sportsmanship and class, their guy Hauck has done a tremendous job over the years of poisoning this rivalry with his despicable classless comments and behavior that resemble the antics of a little child. I realize that MSU's enrollment is much higher, 16k vs. 10k, but then look at UM's athletic facilities. They have the billionaire industrialist Washington family to give them whatever they want. I wouldn't think he would blink at helping their band get to Frisco. I think the bottom line is it's simply musicians trying to help other musicians.

[WalkOn79]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

Don’t think that’s true. MSU bookstore does own the M store in downtown Missoula though. BTW. Why don’t we have a downtown Bobcat store. Gear is kind of hard to find in this town.

[coloradocat]

I have mixed feelings about this. As I recall, when we went to Frisco our band also had to raise a bunch of money to make the trip. I'm all about good sportsmanship and class, but I really think that each institution should be responsible for this sort of thing. On the other hand I know that musicians consider themelves as "brothers and sisters of music" so to speak. I personally have always enjoyed the "drumline competition" at the end of the Cat-Griz game here in Bozeman. Of course, we won't see that happen again.

But back to the sportsmanship and class, their guy Hauck has done a tremendous job over the years of poisoning this rivalry with his despicable classless comments and behavior that resemble the antics of a little child. I realize that MSU's enrollment is much higher, 16k vs. 10k, but then look at UM's athletic facilities. They have the billionaire industrialist Washington family to give them whatever they want. I wouldn't think he would blink at helping their band get to Frisco. I think the bottom line is it's simply musicians trying to help other musicians.

It would be different if our band took money out of their own budget to give charity to the griz band (I still wouldn't like it but the camaraderie would make sense) but this was just Waded being nice and/or thinking she could boost her/MSU's public profile, which by and large worked as intended. If MSU has any excess funds they should be going back to MSU students, not some unworthy outside cause.

[BelligerentBobcat]

It’s given me a ton of “little brother” ammo, so it’s great. It’s a good thing overall to do, and gives me more ****** talking. Win-win.

[CatBot]

The ROI on this $3k is already staggering. Well played.

[Rich K]

Would now be a good time to buy a full page ad in the Missoulian?

"GO JACKRABBITS!"

[catscat]

Since the MSU Bookstore owns the um Bookstore, maybe that's where the $3,000 came from. Just returning some of the profits gained from the sales of gris gear resulting from their "exceptional" season.

Don’t think that’s true. MSU bookstore does own the M store in downtown Missoula though. BTW. Why don’t we have a downtown Bobcat store. Gear is kind of hard to find in this town.

You are right. It's the M store. I just don't know what happened there that I didn't know that. It's the first time I've ever been wrong.