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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by GoldstoneCat » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:48 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
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Here me out. I'd guess that our offensive struggles were a case of defenses figuring out how to confuse Tommy. Tommy will be hitting the film this off-season and figuring it out. CN has said in the past that we run like 4 plays. It's up to Tommy at the line to decide what happens based on what the D shows. At Idaho I heard someone say they showed him a bunch of false fronts. I think the griz figures out more of that.
Don’t put this on Tommy. It is the coordinators job to put the players and team in a position to succeed. At the Idaho game, we decide to pass against the number one passing defense in the conference. All while we had one of the top rushing attacks in the country. Totally mind boggling.
A lot of those plays were RPO’s where the QB read that the “correct” option was to pass.
Stats show 25 pass attempts to 24 rushing against the top rated pass defense in the conference. Strong offensive line. Loaded RB room. Top rushing offense. Skip the RPO, and hand the damn ball off. That is on the OC. It is not complicated.
Biggest misperception in college football, across the country. In the NFL (and in high school) play callers exploit mis matches. That happens a certain amount in college. But when you are an all-out system offense, which MSU is (RPO and spread option mixed), you rarely ever call plays of any sort, especially in the first half. You box count, see fronts, make your choice on your priority read, attack, read again, either flourish or not.
Cmon Colter. The Offensive Coordinator’s job is to develop a game plan to put their team in the best position to win. That includes making changes to the game plan and adapting to take advantage of the opponent’s weaknesses. Our first 3 series at Idaho yielded 9 plays for 14 yards. We passed 3 times on the first 4 plays. Here is an idea: give it to the RB Davis who was playing like a man possessed. Sorry, but that is on the man in charge, the OC.
I'm not really surprised you don't get it. But CN has done his best to make you understand so it's time to move on.

Exciting to have a Daly as DC!
Cataholic, you've got this one wrong. Tommy played a horrible half. It cost us that game. It also happens to everyone. He had the option to hand the ball to Davis on at least 2 of those plays and chose not to based on what Idaho was showing him. They had him confused, plain and simple. If you're advocating for a different coordinator and a different type of offense that's fair but with this offense, well just reference colter's post. Tommy is a hell of a player and a hell of a leader, who made some bad reads in that game. Same thing happened in Missoula. He followed that up with imo the best game of his career against ndsu. Glad we have him for 1 more year.
And despite missing those reads had his receivers not dropped three passes MSU is probably up 14-10 at halftime. Probably…

Anyway, I think Daly is going to ignite MSU’s defense ala Matt Miller when he got the OC job.
You're right on that front. Nobody made plays. It was a weird spooky half. Excited for Bobby.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:59 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
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Let Daly coach LB's and Shepherd coach the secondary. Hire a special teams coach.
Again, how many teams have a dedicated ST’s coach at the FCS level?

An FCS ST coach isn’t working on technique for a kicker, they all have kicking coaches for that. Did we see a big problem is kick coverage? In the blocking schemes? I can’t recall that. That’s what a ST coach does. Even Hauck doesn’t mess with the kickers techniques, fwiw. And that’s straight from the mouth of one of their former kickers.
I don’t remember his name (well, I remember it but the ol’ brain won’t bring it up) but the red-headed guy? Special teams coach. Givens, maybe. An Ash coach maybe? Special teams were never as sharp as that year.
DePrato? He coached TE’s as well if I remember right. Players loved him.
Thank you! Yes, that’s the guy. Loved him. Brought enthusiasm, and apparently good coaching. That’s what I’d like to see, another coach in that position that could give the special teams the attention they need.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:13 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:59 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:36 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:33 am
Hawks86 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:21 am
Let Daly coach LB's and Shepherd coach the secondary. Hire a special teams coach.
Again, how many teams have a dedicated ST’s coach at the FCS level?

An FCS ST coach isn’t working on technique for a kicker, they all have kicking coaches for that. Did we see a big problem is kick coverage? In the blocking schemes? I can’t recall that. That’s what a ST coach does. Even Hauck doesn’t mess with the kickers techniques, fwiw. And that’s straight from the mouth of one of their former kickers.
I don’t remember his name (well, I remember it but the ol’ brain won’t bring it up) but the red-headed guy? Special teams coach. Givens, maybe. An Ash coach maybe? Special teams were never as sharp as that year.
DePrato? He coached TE’s as well if I remember right. Players loved him.
Thank you! Yes, that’s the guy. Loved him. Brought enthusiasm, and apparently good coaching. That’s what I’d like to see, another coach in that position that could give the special teams the attention they need.
What problems do you have with the ST’s outside of missing FG’s?



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by Bocephus » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm

Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm

Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

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Yup


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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by KIX » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm

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Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by LoggerCat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm

KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by MTnative » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm

LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:51 pm

MTnative wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.
Has a legal date in January I believe. Should know more then! #HouseWrightOrWrong2024


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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by LoggerCat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:55 pm

MTnative wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.

I fully agree. I just have a feeling he’ll be back for another year if the court proceedings go his way.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by KIX » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:19 pm

LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:55 pm
MTnative wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.

I fully agree. I just have a feeling he’ll be back for another year if the court proceedings go his way.
Another year to screw up our offense...



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:29 pm

KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:19 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:55 pm
MTnative wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.

I fully agree. I just have a feeling he’ll be back for another year if the court proceedings go his way.
Another year to screw up our offense...
We were what, the 2nd or 3rd best offense in the nation?

Really screwing it up bigly.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by Cledus » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm

Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.


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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by AFCAT » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:17 pm

Cledus wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm
Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.
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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by ECBobcat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:20 pm

Cledus wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm
Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.
Next year is a big prove-it year for Vigen. This year was a MASSIVE disappointment. If next year is similar (especially if it comes with another embarrassing loss to the community college), the seat better be very hot.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by Prodigal Cat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:30 pm

Cledus wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm
Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.
Went down every year? Is this gris math?


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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by catatac » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:51 pm

ECBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:20 pm
Cledus wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm
Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.
Next year is a big prove-it year for Vigen. This year was a MASSIVE disappointment. If next year is similar (especially if it comes with another embarrassing loss to the community college), the seat better be very hot.
It's been pointed out many times in other threads but next season is a whole different beast with the schedule. This year that Cats lost to three teams on the road. Two of those teams are playing for the national title and one made it to the quarter finals. Two of those losses were so close to being wins it was astounding. So, yes I agree those losses were disappointing but it doesn't mean the Cats suddenly aren't one of the best teams in the country, or regressing, or anything like that. If the Cats lose three regular season FCS games next year I will be absolutely shocked. Heck, I'd be shocked if they lose three games period. =D^


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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by KIX » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:36 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:29 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:19 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:55 pm
MTnative wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:47 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:18 pm
KIX wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:14 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Vigen said Howe was promoted to co-DC. Daly will call/run the defense.

Hoping to sign safety coach by early January.
When is Housewright going to get canned?

Highly doubt that’ll be happening.
I think that’s a huge foul if he’s allowed to continue.

I fully agree. I just have a feeling he’ll be back for another year if the court proceedings go his way.
Another year to screw up our offense...
We were what, the 2nd or 3rd best offense in the nation?

Really screwing it up bigly.
Being 2nd or 3rd best offense is all fine and dandy. His play calling cost us 3 wins this year and shear confusion in the 4th. Rather have the W's than national stats, which mean nothing if you can't perform on games days.



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Re: Daly promoted to defensive coordinator

Post by grizzh8r » Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:10 am

ECBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:20 pm
Cledus wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm
Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:18 pm
Hopefully Daly can get a couple years of experience at coordinator before Vigen moves on. Would be a perfect promote within hire.
Where’s Vigen going to go? I don’t think there’s a ton of demand for coaches whose wins go down every year.
Next year is a big prove-it year for Vigen. This year was a MASSIVE disappointment. If next year is similar (especially if it comes with another embarrassing loss to the community college), the seat better be very hot.
Wow, that's a bit elitist EC... You and I are both old enough to remember Bobcat football in the 90's and it wasn't very pretty (and that's with all due respect to Coach Hysell). You're willing to put one of the winningest coaches in Bobcat history - who has lost a TOTAL of ONE home game in his tenure - based on a couple of down seasons? As someone else has pointed out already, the road schedule this season was likely the most difficult in the history of Bobcat football and 3 of 4 losses were literally one play away from being wins. The schedule next season is a bit more balanced. 9-3 should easily be attainable, and even with the FBS game, 12-0 isn't completely out of the question.


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