Cat-Griz 2.0

[cats2506]

Our interior O Line better figure it out, I'll say that.

But this will be a battle and a very stressful game. I trust Vigen to make the right adjustments and our playmakers to make the plays they've made all season.

Have they been playing bad? News to me.

Not sure I'm watching the same games as you then. The inside run game has been lackluster.

Just took us a while in both games to figure out they're run fits. We ran it effectively in both games in the 2nd 1/2

Both of these games have had a strong defensive front, it took a little bit but we found ways to lighten the box and get some angles. I see a lot of good adjustments from our team, I credit the tablet use after each possession. I wonder if bobbys assistants even know how to use a tablet, most of them are about 90 years old.

[catatac]

I was surprised to see Brint predict a comfortable win for the Griz in Bozeman. Me thinks this one was picking with the heard and not the head.

Naw, I get it - his fans, friends, and all Griz Nation would absolutely destroy him if he predicted that the Griz lose this one.

[cats2506]

I was surprised to see Brint predict a comfortable win for the Griz in Bozeman. Me thinks this one was picking with the heard and not the head.

Naw, I get it - his fans, friends, and all Griz Nation would absolutely destroy him if he predicted that the Griz lose this one.

He is and always has been a sugar coater, he does a lot of research though.

[coloradocat]

Our interior O Line better figure it out, I'll say that.

But this will be a battle and a very stressful game. I trust Vigen to make the right adjustments and our playmakers to make the plays they've made all season.

Have they been playing bad? News to me.

Not sure I'm watching the same games as you then. The inside run game has been lackluster.

Just took us a while in both games to figure out they're run fits. We ran it effectively in both games in the 2nd 1/2

Both of these games have had a strong defensive front, it took a little bit but we found ways to lighten the box and get some angles. I see a lot of good adjustments from our team, I credit the tablet use after each possession. I wonder if bobbys assistants even know how to use a tablet, most of them are about 90 years old.

They're going to need extra chalk to go over how we're carving them up this weekend.

[Mtcatfan]

This will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.

Wow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of
transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team.
And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculous

It will take an incredible effort by UM to beat us. Fans needs to understand this.

Do you mind explaining your rationale?

-Vigen is 39-2 at home (2 OT losses to NDSU AND SDSU)
-Vigen is 3-2 against the Griz
-Vigen is 2-0 against the Griz at home (Both blowouts)
-Griz are 2-7 against the Cats the last 9 years
-During this round in the playoffs, the Supercomputer has us at 44% chance at winning the Natty, Griz are at 9%
-Our Defense is much better than theirs, we can slow down Wortham and Gillman and have already proven to have done so...
-We tend to beat teams worse the second time around the last few years
-WE BEAT THEM THIS YEAR AT THEIR HOUSE!!!
The list goes on and on...

I feel like it will be a good game, but it is near impossible for them or any team to come into Bozeman and win under this current regime. I feel really good about our chances. Homefeild advantage is absolutely HUGE! If the Cats show up and play their style, dictating the flow of the game, it will take a generational performance by the Griz to beat us at our place! Bobcat Stadium will be the loudest it has ever been next weekend. Mark my words!

1. Kickoffs out of the end zone. No returns.
2. Punts high and short. No returns
3. Control the penalties.
4. Sack who dat.
5. Run the damn ball.

This!!! And we win easy.

[golden77]

As the brawl 2.0 is slowly creeping up on us i have to state what a historic game for the state of Montana. Also I would like to state how I care equally for every Cat on our current team. I don't care if you are from California, Washington, Texas, Idaho, Wisconsin, or wherever. Once you are a cat it doesn't matter where you are from. With that being said I would like to talk about the current break down of the Montana kids on both teams. It wasn't long ago that before the seasons started all my Griz friends would hammer me because they were getting all of the Montana kids, and believe me it was very important to them at that time as it was to us also. With that being said the Bobcats currently have 12 starters from the state of Montana and 7 more on the 2 deep that are playing significant time. The Griz currently have 4 starters and another 4 on the 2 deep from the state of Montana. Thats a difference of 19 to 8 Montana kids playing significant time on the two teams. If you think that doesn't matter to the people of Montana you are being very foolish. It mattered years ago and it matters now for the people that live in this state. It will one day flip again but for right now MSU owns the state with in-state players that are actually playing significant time, not just counted as a Montana kid for being on the roster. And once again I'm just stating numbers that Colter provided for conversation, and I support every kid on our team equally regardless of where you came from

[OldGriz]

As the brawl 2.0 is slowly creeping up on us i have to state what a historic game for the state of Montana. Also I would like to state how I care equally for every Cat on our current team. I don't care if you are from California, Washington, Texas, Idaho, Wisconsin, or wherever. Once you are a cat it doesn't matter where you are from. With that being said I would like to talk about the current break down of the Montana kids on both teams. It wasn't long ago that before the seasons started all my Griz friends would hammer me because they were getting all of the Montana kids, and believe me it was very important to them at that time as it was to us also. With that being said the Bobcats currently have 12 starters from the state of Montana and 7 more on the 2 deep that are playing significant time. The Griz currently have 4 starters and another 4 on the 2 deep from the state of Montana. Thats a difference of 19 to 8 Montana kids playing significant time on the two teams. If you think that doesn't matter to the people of Montana you are being very foolish. It mattered years ago and it matters now for the people that live in this state. It will one day flip again but for right now MSU owns the state with in-state players that are actually playing significant time, not just counted as a Montana kid for being on the roster. And once again I'm just stating numbers that Colter provided for conversation, and I support every kid on our team equally regardless of where you came from

Waffle much? So do you prefer the in-state or the out-of-state players?

[golden77]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

[ilovethecats]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

[OldGriz]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

[golden77]

I'm saying I want to recruit the very best players in the nation to play for the cats. Apparently the nineteen montana kids we currently have contributing along with all of our other players must be pretty dam good. Big sky champs, Brawl champs, top two ranking. That shows we are most certainly getting the best players and also having a great sense of pride that a significant number of these very good players are from Montana.

[Prodigal Cat]

Cats have played a much harder schedule. And are still better in most of these categories.

[ilovethecats]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

[OldGriz]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

I’m with you. I never got into making a big deal about the number of in-state recruits because there’s obviously no number or ratio that is right or wrong, good or bad. You are probably right that it’s a statistic that is used selectively by some fans, depending on which team has the most in-state recruits in a given year.

[Cataholic]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

It is not just Montana kids contributing that favors MSU. We have more Montana kids on our roster.

[OldGriz]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

It is not just Montana kids contributing that favors MSU. We have more Montana kids on our roster.

What does this mean?

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Very very interesting Stats comparison. Cats lead in almost every category that means anything...

[ilovethecats]

But the griz are the better team I’ve read. It’s going to really suck and we beat them again and we’ll be the 1st team ever to beat a team twice that we’re not as good as. Lol.

[Cataholic]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

It is not just Montana kids contributing that favors MSU. We have more Montana kids on our roster.

What does this mean?

MSU has more Montana kids getting significant playing time.

MSU also has more more Montana kids on the roster.

The Gris however do hold the lead for kids from CA, OR and WA combined.

[OldGriz]

What do you mean waffle much, I take tremendous pride in the players from Montana, I have lived in this state for 66 years. Why is it a non issue for Griz fans now when a few years ago every conversation started with how many players were from the state. Must have touched a nerve with you

This is SO spot on. During the steak they called us Bozangelas because of all our California kids. They went on and On and ON about how they won with Montana kids and how we didn’t have enough Montana kids on our roster to even call ourselves Montana State!

Then we start evening the playing field and getting good Montana kids and the narrative started to change. Now we are killing them with instate recruiting and suddenly Montana kids don’t matter. Once you’re on the team you’re a Montanan they say. Which I agree with actually. But that is definitely NOT what they were saying when they were dominating us in in-state recruiting!

So … you … are wanting … to sound like you think Griz fans sounded 30 years ago … ? That’s the goal or the point?

Me? No. That's why I just said I agree that once you're a Bobcat you're a Montanan. That doesn't change the fact that that is definitely NOT what griz fans were saying when they had all the Montana kids.

It is not just Montana kids contributing that favors MSU. We have more Montana kids on our roster.

What does this mean?

MSU has more Montana kids getting significant playing time.

MSU also has more more Montana kids on the roster.

The Gris however do hold the lead for kids from CA, OR and WA combined.

You don’t like players from CA, OR, or WA? Still not understanding your point.