Cat-Griz 2.0
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
We are the more athletic team across the board. All we need to do is not make dumb mistakes. We have to clean up the false starts, how about going on silent count or watch the friggin ball. Cut out the pis and bad red zone coverage. If we just play our game we win. Won't be easy and um will have some new wrinkles but I feel they are so arrogant they won't change much. Hold our nerve, just play like normal and we're fine b is really hard to beat the same team twice in a season but we ARE the better team, just go prove it.
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I’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
Do you mind explaining your rationale?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:06 pmIt will take an incredible effort by UM to beat us. Fans needs to understand this.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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I wonder if the Alumni association will try to get hosting events set up for next weekend. I know they do for the National Championship but there’s a lot more leas time for those. I definitely want to watch this game among Cat fans in Western Washington
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...they couldn't knock us off at their place three weeks ago and we've lost two home games since Vigen became head coach? And we match up well against their defense, especially on the ground? Defensively, we force them to be patient on offense which they absolutely don't want to be? They will have to be elite in every facet to beat us.CodyCat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:21 pmDo you mind explaining your rationale?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:06 pmIt will take an incredible effort by UM to beat us. Fans needs to understand this.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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Our games will be televised on ABC. Most bars will be able to air ABC. Maybe go to those who have hosted before and ask?
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I'm merely stating the stakes, not necessarily the odds of us winning or losing. And I think we can all agree on how awful it would be if the Gris win a natty before us in the midst of all the success you outlined. That's the kind of win or loss that can define a decade. Not that it has to, for either team, but it can.BlueAndGoldNation wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:15 pmIF... IF... we lose, which I don't think we will... But if we lose next week, there is no way that we will be going anywhere. If you think that this team and program is going anywhere regardless of the outcome... You are mistaken.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
Our program is built on development, and our players develop a complete different philosophy, mindset, and culture than the team across the divide does. We rely on grooming our players in a success proven system. Their team relies heavily on transfers. Transfers are great, but mass transfers are not sustainable. Players come and go and it's impossible to keep a culture and continuity. Hauck is their curse. He drives players out, and when things don't go well, they typically implode and lose half of their roster, where he has to start building all over again. This year, he has done well. He probably won't have to rebuild as much next year. This means they are likely aren't going anywhere next year as well.
If Vigen leaves after this year or the next, I know our program isn't going anywhere because of what he and Leon have built. Vigen's teams have proven MSU a destination for players who want to come in, learn how to be a winner, and have successful seasons year in year out. We have been to Semifinals in 5 of the last 6 years. We have the chance to be in 3 Natty's in the last 5 years. We are here to stay. Success breeds success when done the right way. We have absolutely done things the right way. I like our chances of title contending in the FCS for the next decade with how we are currently set up, regardless of the outcome of next week's game!
I love the Cats, and that intense desire to see us win is what is creating this sense of dread. The prospect of our season ending to the Gris, on their way to a national championship, on our field, after we already beat them, sounds absolutely awful and terrible. And there's a chance that happens, because they are a quality team.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
-Vigen is 39-2 at home (2 OT losses to NDSU AND SDSU)CodyCat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:21 pmDo you mind explaining your rationale?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:06 pmIt will take an incredible effort by UM to beat us. Fans needs to understand this.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
-Vigen is 3-2 against the Griz
-Vigen is 2-0 against the Griz at home (Both blowouts)
-Griz are 2-7 against the Cats the last 9 years
-During this round in the playoffs, the Supercomputer has us at 44% chance at winning the Natty, Griz are at 9%
-Our Defense is much better than theirs, we can slow down Wortham and Gillman and have already proven to have done so...
-We tend to beat teams worse the second time around the last few years
-WE BEAT THEM THIS YEAR AT THEIR HOUSE!!!
The list goes on and on...
I feel like it will be a good game, but it is near impossible for them or any team to come into Bozeman and win under this current regime. I feel really good about our chances. Homefeild advantage is absolutely HUGE! If the Cats show up and play their style, dictating the flow of the game, it will take a generational performance by the Griz to beat us at our place! Bobcat Stadium will be the loudest it has ever been next weekend. Mark my words!
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I love the Cats, I want them to curb stomp this coming weekend. However, if we lose, it will not unfold like the fantasy you have created in your head.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:44 pmI'm merely stating the stakes, not necessarily the odds of us winning or losing. And I think we can all agree on how awful it would be if the Gris win a natty before us in the midst of all the success you outlined. That's the kind of win or loss that can define a decade. Not that it has to, for either team, but it can.BlueAndGoldNation wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:15 pmIF... IF... we lose, which I don't think we will... But if we lose next week, there is no way that we will be going anywhere. If you think that this team and program is going anywhere regardless of the outcome... You are mistaken.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
Our program is built on development, and our players develop a complete different philosophy, mindset, and culture than the team across the divide does. We rely on grooming our players in a success proven system. Their team relies heavily on transfers. Transfers are great, but mass transfers are not sustainable. Players come and go and it's impossible to keep a culture and continuity. Hauck is their curse. He drives players out, and when things don't go well, they typically implode and lose half of their roster, where he has to start building all over again. This year, he has done well. He probably won't have to rebuild as much next year. This means they are likely aren't going anywhere next year as well.
If Vigen leaves after this year or the next, I know our program isn't going anywhere because of what he and Leon have built. Vigen's teams have proven MSU a destination for players who want to come in, learn how to be a winner, and have successful seasons year in year out. We have been to Semifinals in 5 of the last 6 years. We have the chance to be in 3 Natty's in the last 5 years. We are here to stay. Success breeds success when done the right way. We have absolutely done things the right way. I like our chances of title contending in the FCS for the next decade with how we are currently set up, regardless of the outcome of next week's game!
I love the Cats, and that intense desire to see us win is what is creating this sense of dread. The prospect of our season ending to the Gris, on their way to a national championship, on our field, after we already beat them, sounds absolutely awful and terrible. And there's a chance that happens, because they are a quality team.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
1. Kickoffs out of the end zone. No returns.BlueAndGoldNation wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:45 pm
-Vigen is 39-2 at home (2 OT losses to NDSU AND SDSU)CodyCat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:21 pmDo you mind explaining your rationale?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:06 pmIt will take an incredible effort by UM to beat us. Fans needs to understand this.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
-Vigen is 3-2 against the Griz
-Vigen is 2-0 against the Griz at home (Both blowouts)
-Griz are 2-7 against the Cats the last 9 years
-During this round in the playoffs, the Supercomputer has us at 44% chance at winning the Natty, Griz are at 9%
-Our Defense is much better than theirs, we can slow down Wortham and Gillman and have already proven to have done so...
-We tend to beat teams worse the second time around the last few years
-WE BEAT THEM THIS YEAR AT THEIR HOUSE!!!
The list goes on and on...
I feel like it will be a good game, but it is near impossible for them or any team to come into Bozeman and win under this current regime. I feel really good about our chances. Homefeild advantage is absolutely HUGE! If the Cats show up and play their style, dictating the flow of the game, it will take a generational performance by the Griz to beat us at our place! Bobcat Stadium will be the loudest it has ever been next weekend. Mark my words!
2. Punts high and short. No returns
3. Control the penalties.
4. Sack who dat.
5. Run the damn ball.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
Maybe. I have a tendency to go worst-case scenario in my mind with these kinds of things. I don't think we disagree that potential situation sounds absolutely terrible, right?SparkCat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:58 pmI love the Cats, I want them to curb stomp this coming weekend. However, if we lose, it will not unfold like the fantasy you have created in your head.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:44 pmI'm merely stating the stakes, not necessarily the odds of us winning or losing. And I think we can all agree on how awful it would be if the Gris win a natty before us in the midst of all the success you outlined. That's the kind of win or loss that can define a decade. Not that it has to, for either team, but it can.BlueAndGoldNation wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:15 pmIF... IF... we lose, which I don't think we will... But if we lose next week, there is no way that we will be going anywhere. If you think that this team and program is going anywhere regardless of the outcome... You are mistaken.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
Our program is built on development, and our players develop a complete different philosophy, mindset, and culture than the team across the divide does. We rely on grooming our players in a success proven system. Their team relies heavily on transfers. Transfers are great, but mass transfers are not sustainable. Players come and go and it's impossible to keep a culture and continuity. Hauck is their curse. He drives players out, and when things don't go well, they typically implode and lose half of their roster, where he has to start building all over again. This year, he has done well. He probably won't have to rebuild as much next year. This means they are likely aren't going anywhere next year as well.
If Vigen leaves after this year or the next, I know our program isn't going anywhere because of what he and Leon have built. Vigen's teams have proven MSU a destination for players who want to come in, learn how to be a winner, and have successful seasons year in year out. We have been to Semifinals in 5 of the last 6 years. We have the chance to be in 3 Natty's in the last 5 years. We are here to stay. Success breeds success when done the right way. We have absolutely done things the right way. I like our chances of title contending in the FCS for the next decade with how we are currently set up, regardless of the outcome of next week's game!
I love the Cats, and that intense desire to see us win is what is creating this sense of dread. The prospect of our season ending to the Gris, on their way to a national championship, on our field, after we already beat them, sounds absolutely awful and terrible. And there's a chance that happens, because they are a quality team.
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I just disagree. Win or lose next week will not impact recruits we get. Program is on trajectory tocompete for championship every year.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:20 pmI’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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You think that if we lose a home semi to our in state rival and they win a national championship, that won't impact the in-state recruiting battle or who will want to come here as opposed to go there? Interesting. I guess we do disagree, and I'm pretty sure the facts are not on your side. Where did we get White? Wasn't that cuz we went to Frisco? I'm ok to agree to disagree, but winning championships absolutely effects recruiting. If we win a championship, that's good for recruiting for us and bad for them. If they win a championship, that's good for recruiting for them, and bad for us. Surprised that's controversial.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:09 pmI just disagree. Win or lose next week will not impact recruits we get. Program is on trajectory tocompete for championship every year.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:20 pmI’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
The re-match favors the Cats.
1) They're now at home and homefield advantage is huge for both locations.
2) They're better on the LOS. It's hard to find an effective gameplan against a team when they're better than you on the OL and DL; the Griz have to do it again.
3) Despite the popular narratives, the breaks did not favor MSU last time. The calls were even both directions. The Griz were actually luckier than the Cats, given that they fumbled twice and lost neither of them.
The Griz are good. The Cats are better. Anything could happen, but I love MSU's chances in this one.
1) They're now at home and homefield advantage is huge for both locations.
2) They're better on the LOS. It's hard to find an effective gameplan against a team when they're better than you on the OL and DL; the Griz have to do it again.
3) Despite the popular narratives, the breaks did not favor MSU last time. The calls were even both directions. The Griz were actually luckier than the Cats, given that they fumbled twice and lost neither of them.
The Griz are good. The Cats are better. Anything could happen, but I love MSU's chances in this one.
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Have the Griz played in any inclement weather yet? That weather will make for a slippery pigskin.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:10 pmThe griz have played 10 games at home. Only 4 on the road and 2 of those games were against the 2 worst teams in the conference. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think their offense won’t function as well out of the friendly confines. Current forecast is mid 30’s, rain snow mix.
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Make the refs call the penalty on the defense for clapping a simulating the snaps. They finally called 2 on SFA in the second half. And yes our ol should no better than to jump like that

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When the rivalry focuses on portal transfers, yes I don't think it will impact HS recruits. If Cats had lost at UM, were not in semi 5 of last 6 years, not multiple time Big Sky Champs it might. But as a recruiter you are either telling a kid they can get you over the hump, or can keep you at top and both are effective.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:16 pmYou think that if we lose a home semi to our in state rival and they win a national championship, that won't impact the in-state recruiting battle or who will want to come here as opposed to go there? Interesting. I guess we do disagree, and I'm pretty sure the facts are not on your side. Where did we get White? Wasn't that cuz we went to Frisco? I'm ok to agree to disagree, but winning championships absolutely effects recruiting. If we win a championship, that's good for recruiting for us and bad for them. If they win a championship, that's good for recruiting for them, and bad for us. Surprised that's controversial.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:09 pmI just disagree. Win or lose next week will not impact recruits we get. Program is on trajectory tocompete for championship every year.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:20 pmI’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
Perhaps. I disagree, but of course I may be wrong. Either way, removing the aspect of future recruiting, them winning before us in this era is not awesome, and in my opinion warrants all my above statements.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:29 pmWhen the rivalry focuses on portal transfers, yes I don't think it will impact HS recruits. If Cats had lost at UM, were not in semi 5 of last 6 years, not multiple time Big Sky Champs it might. But as a recruiter you are either telling a kid they can get you over the hump, or can keep you at top and both are effective.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:16 pmYou think that if we lose a home semi to our in state rival and they win a national championship, that won't impact the in-state recruiting battle or who will want to come here as opposed to go there? Interesting. I guess we do disagree, and I'm pretty sure the facts are not on your side. Where did we get White? Wasn't that cuz we went to Frisco? I'm ok to agree to disagree, but winning championships absolutely effects recruiting. If we win a championship, that's good for recruiting for us and bad for them. If they win a championship, that's good for recruiting for them, and bad for us. Surprised that's controversial.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:09 pmI just disagree. Win or lose next week will not impact recruits we get. Program is on trajectory tocompete for championship every year.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:20 pmI’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.
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Re: Cat-Griz 2.0
Wait a minute. Who said they are going to win? Weird take.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:39 pmPerhaps. I disagree, but of course I may be wrong. Either way, removing the aspect of future recruiting, them winning before us in this era is not awesome, and in my opinion warrants all my above statements.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:29 pmWhen the rivalry focuses on portal transfers, yes I don't think it will impact HS recruits. If Cats had lost at UM, were not in semi 5 of last 6 years, not multiple time Big Sky Champs it might. But as a recruiter you are either telling a kid they can get you over the hump, or can keep you at top and both are effective.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:16 pmYou think that if we lose a home semi to our in state rival and they win a national championship, that won't impact the in-state recruiting battle or who will want to come here as opposed to go there? Interesting. I guess we do disagree, and I'm pretty sure the facts are not on your side. Where did we get White? Wasn't that cuz we went to Frisco? I'm ok to agree to disagree, but winning championships absolutely effects recruiting. If we win a championship, that's good for recruiting for us and bad for them. If they win a championship, that's good for recruiting for them, and bad for us. Surprised that's controversial.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:09 pmI just disagree. Win or lose next week will not impact recruits we get. Program is on trajectory tocompete for championship every year.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:20 pmI’m simply stating what I perceive the stakes are, not the odds of us losing or winning. Also, my post is under the assumption that the winner of brawl 2.0 wins the natty. I think we’d all be on the same page that would be an absolute disaster. And just as big of a boon on the other end. If Bobby and Co get a championship before us in the golden age of Bobcat football, that’s an absolute disaster. But if we win…boy oh boy.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:52 pmWow doom and gloom. It will mean they beat the Cats in 1 game and a split for the season. Cats didn't really go after same # of transfers so don't think it will impact that. Might say something about senior laden transfer team vs young mostly HS recruited team. And to say they are the better program based on that is ridiculousJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pmThis will be for literally all the marbles. Assuming the winner wins the natty, this literally couldn’t get any bigger. If we win, we put an exclamation point on dominating the Gris, throw our hat in the ring for a potential run that can challenge NDSU, and have something to hold onto forever. If the Gris win, we can kiss all these notions of being the better program goodbye. They will have won a championship before us during the “golden age” of MSU football. They will forever attract the best transfers, and Gris fans will literally NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. This is an incredibly large game. I have a bowling ball in my stomach. I hope we bring our A game. Otherwise, these past 2 years will be both the best teams and the most bitter endings in my memory.