Hubris or Humility?

[aucat]

For those of us who have been around long enough to endure the streak, the obnoxious behavior of Bobby Hauck, and the belittling treatment from griz fans, yes it can be a challenge to demonstrate good sportsmanship. But that’s what we should do. Be raucous and scream your head off but win with class, and when it happens, lose with class.

[catsrback76]

For those of us who have been around long enough to endure the streak, the obnoxious behavior of Bobby Hauck, and the belittling treatment from griz fans, yes it can be a challenge to demonstrate good sportsmanship. But that’s what we should do. Be raucous and scream your head off but win with class, and when it happens, lose with class.

[allcat]

I have two favorite teams, one is the Cats. The next is whoever is playing the gris. I actually expect a gris fan to be the same way. Outside of that we are friends and have good hearted ribbing either way. There is only one gris that I don't care for and that is the bobster, I've seen him throw his team under the bus after a loss.

[Catfanatic84]

Spent the weekend in Missoula and had a great time. Lots of friendly ribbing back and forth. There was another Cat fan behind me at the game taunting the Griz crowd at the end. I thought he was going to get popped by a large angry Griz. I encouraged him to pipe down and he escaped unharmed. Let’s keep it civil and fun. That’s a much better way.

[tetoncat]

I like and cheer for specific Griz players, especially those who have seen play in HS or have connections with. Love when they have individual success. Still do not want their teamto win conference ot national championships

[wbtfg]

F that! When it comes to the griz I am a very sore loser and a very sore winner. I hate the team, the town, their fans and the school! When they come to Bozeman I am in full attack mode the whole game! I had one couple sat next to me and lasted one play. Last year a young griz fan sat next to me and was gone by halftime!

Damn Gary.....Maybe take it down a couple notches.

[Prodigal Cat]

F that! When it comes to the griz I am a very sore loser and a very sore winner. I hate the team, the town, their fans and the school! When they come to Bozeman I am in full attack mode the whole game! I had one couple sat next to me and lasted one play. Last year a young griz fan sat next to me and was gone by halftime!

Damn Gary.....Maybe take it down a couple notches.

You know how people are saying its 1 or 2 knuckleheads that make it bad for everyone else? Yeah, found ours.

[technoCat]

I get along fine with Griz fans. Usually, the only ones that annoy me are the ones that only root for them TO annoy me. I remember rooting for the Griz quite a bit in the playoffs the years we didn't make it since they were a Montana team. I would love to see them again in the semis this year!

[ozcat2]

F that! When it comes to the griz I am a very sore loser and a very sore winner. I hate the team, the town, their fans and the school! When they come to Bozeman I am in full attack mode the whole game! I had one couple sat next to me and lasted one play. Last year a young griz fan sat next to me and was gone by halftime!

Gary, those aren’t things to be proud of.

I am very proud of it! My brother graduated from um and I have not talked to him in 30 years!

[ozcat2]

That is really sad. It is just a game.

[Bobcat Sig]

And now we’re fighting about fighting with gris fans? Cool cool

Look, I get the hate. I do. I’ve had some truly awful interactions with gris fans and alums. I’ve been assaulted over it, my family insulted, my safety threatened, and in one case, my career threatened. When I say, “FTG!” I mean it. I have a special hate for them and their fans.

I’m still going to be a composed winner, but I am going to enjoy it. And while I don’t wish on anyone what’s been done to me, I very much wish that team nothing but the worst for the next twenty years. The Streak poisoned the rivalry and there’s a healthy set of gris faithful that need a reset.

Go CATS!!

[canyoncat]

I don't understand some of the comments. I lived through the streak had my heart torn out in 97 and again in 98. Had to put up with horrible griz fans. Still I have lots of griz friends and even a few family members that are griz fans. Love the back and forth between fans, but it is just game. Win with class and lose with class.

[Bobcat Sig]

I don't understand some of the comments. I lived through the streak had my heart torn out in 97 and again in 98. Had to put up with horrible griz fans. Still I have lots of griz friends and even a few family members that are griz fans. Love the back and forth between fans, but it is just game. Win with class and lose with class.

While I think you’re spot on, and with very few exceptions with our fans, I think the gris faithful would do well to take your words to heart

[JoeCatsJoe]

I don't understand some of the comments. I lived through the streak had my heart torn out in 97 and again in 98. Had to put up with horrible griz fans. Still I have lots of griz friends and even a few family members that are griz fans. Love the back and forth between fans, but it is just game. Win with class and lose with class.

While I think you’re spot on, and with very few exceptions with our fans, I think the gris faithful would do well to take your words to heart

Of course you're right. Seaccat and Gtapp's sentiment would have been met with hearty approval on egriz if posted with the opposite thrust. I'd like to think we're better than that as a fanbase.

[OldGriz]

A wise Bobcat fan posted on one of these recent threads that “if it’s not fun, it’s not worth it.” Any fan who acts rudely or aggressively toward other fans or players is not having fun, regardless of what he says. It’s unwise to hitch our overall happiness to the success or failure of a bunch of 20-year-old college students and the men who coach them. All we can do is give thanks that we have the opportunity to watch them compete in wonderful sport.

[49thparallel]

I recall being in Bozeman for a Cat-griz game during the Kramer years and watching griz fans, young and old, standing abreast along the route the players walked from the parking lot into the stadium yelling every four-letter expletive you can imagine at the players. Many of these players were likely kids from their own communities. I also have immediate family members who are griz fans, unfortunately, that never miss an opportunity to call me and rub my nose into any misfortune our team or program encounters. Based on my experience, they are the worst fans in the BSC and possibly the FCS and it's not even close. Additionally, I'll usually attend several games at Wagriz every year and it's commonplace to hear fans berate officials and even injured opposing players during injury timeouts. However, we shouldn't let other people's lack of good judgement justify our own bad behavior and remember that we should be serving as good examples to other fans, especially the young ones, and representatives of the University by holding ourselves to a higher standard. And we, definitely, should not view bad behavior as a "source of pride" or some type of demented "fandom". If this is the case, I would recommend some serious introspection.

The Skyline Sports podcast with Andrew Schmidt and Colter Nuanez, both UM graduates, is insightful and should be required listening for griz fans. There is a unique entitlement and arrogance among their fanbase and program that the dominant football legacy that was established during the 16 years of the "streak" is their birthright and still exists. That they are the "mecca" of football where all roads to football glory intersect, and that everyone wants to be a griz player or fan and any other consideration would be inconceivable. All other programs are nothing more than "little brothers" who aspire to be them. Sadly, for them, this is no longer the case and the last decade is proof of it. MSU is winning the recruitment battle, program building and increasing enrollment not because it wants to be what it once was, but because it wants to be better!

[BOBCATBORN]

I recall being in Bozeman for a Cat-griz game during the Kramer years and watching griz fans, young and old, standing abreast along the route the players walked from the parking lot into the stadium yelling every four-letter expletive you can imagine at the players. Many of these players were likely kids from their own communities. I also have immediate family members who are griz fans, unfortunately, that never miss an opportunity to call me and rub my nose into any misfortune our team or program encounters. Based on my experience, they are the worst fans in the BSC and possibly the FCS and it's not even close. Additionally, I'll usually attend several games at Wagriz every year and it's commonplace to hear fans berate officials and even injured opposing players during injury timeouts. However, we shouldn't let other people's lack of good judgement justify our own bad behavior and remember that we should be serving as good examples to other fans, especially the young ones, and representatives of the University by holding ourselves to a higher standard. And we, definitely, should not view bad behavior as a "source of pride" or some type of demented "fandom". If this is the case, I would recommend some serious introspection.

The Skyline Sports podcast with Andrew Schmidt and Colter Nuanez, both UM graduates, is insightful and should be required listening for griz fans. There is a unique entitlement and arrogance among their fanbase and program that the dominant football legacy that was established during the 16 years of the "streak" is their birthright and still exists. That they are the "mecca" of football where all roads to football glory intersect, and that everyone wants to be a griz player or fan and any other consideration would be inconceivable. All other programs are nothing more than "little brothers" who aspire to be them. Sadly, for them, this is no longer the case and the last decade is proof of it. MSU is winning the recruitment battle, program building and increasing enrollment not because it wants to be what it once was, but because it wants to be better!

We also hear regularly that gris fans are the ones hated by not just the cats, its pretty much common place by other teams in the conference. We had a great time going to Weber last year, the fans were great, but they mentioned they hated when the griz came to town because they were such as******.

[nanacat]

Listening to the Nuanez/Schmidt deal SHOULD be required listening for every griz fan. The sense of entitlement is problematic. They are losing to the Cats across the board, and still think they're something. At least Colter and Andrew have the common sense to acknowledge the change that's occurred.

[wbtfg]

Listening to the Nuanez/Schmidt deal SHOULD be required listening for every griz fan. The sense of entitlement is problematic. They are losing to the Cats across the board, and still think they're something. At least Colter and Andrew have the common sense to acknowledge the change that's occurred.

Let them keep their collective heads in the sand. It's good for us.

[nanacat]

Listening to the Nuanez/Schmidt deal SHOULD be required listening for every griz fan. The sense of entitlement is problematic. They are losing to the Cats across the board, and still think they're something. At least Colter and Andrew have the common sense to acknowledge the change that's occurred.

Let them keep their collective heads in the sand. It's good for us.

Haha, I guess