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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:10 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:31 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:27 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham only has 80 yards more than Taco. He actually has fewer catches than Taco. Heck, Wortham barely cracks the Top 10 in yards, hes #19 in yards per catch, barely top 10 in total catches.

Wortham is really good, don't get me wrong. But hes not even close to the best receiver in the conference. (He might not be the best receiver in the state). If hes not the best receiver in the conference (I think it's Gbutu or Shulikov) he certainly isn't OPOY.

Hes arguably the best return man in the conference. But hes barely Top 10 for OPOY IMO.
Having seen Gbutu and Shulikov, I would agree with you. They are both good receivers.
Shulikov does a lot more with a lot less talent around him.

Wortham is working with a really good QB (I'd say all conference HM) and a great RB (1st team). He should be doing a whole lot more.
Announcers pointed out that at one point in the second half he had two touches, and were wondering why they weren’t using him more. Thst’s a valid question but I suspect our secondary had something to say about that. Great team win.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm

Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.


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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by lutecat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:44 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:10 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:31 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:27 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham only has 80 yards more than Taco. He actually has fewer catches than Taco. Heck, Wortham barely cracks the Top 10 in yards, hes #19 in yards per catch, barely top 10 in total catches.

Wortham is really good, don't get me wrong. But hes not even close to the best receiver in the conference. (He might not be the best receiver in the state). If hes not the best receiver in the conference (I think it's Gbutu or Shulikov) he certainly isn't OPOY.

Hes arguably the best return man in the conference. But hes barely Top 10 for OPOY IMO.
Having seen Gbutu and Shulikov, I would agree with you. They are both good receivers.
Shulikov does a lot more with a lot less talent around him.

Wortham is working with a really good QB (I'd say all conference HM) and a great RB (1st team). He should be doing a whole lot more.
Announcers pointed out that at one point in the second half he had two touches, and were wondering why they weren’t using him more. Thst’s a valid question but I suspect our secondary had something to say about that. Great team win.
Good big sky breakdown by tootell on this tonight. He had one....ONE catch for 3 yards. He had some runs but one catch.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by onceacat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:46 pm

lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:44 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:10 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:31 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:27 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham only has 80 yards more than Taco. He actually has fewer catches than Taco. Heck, Wortham barely cracks the Top 10 in yards, hes #19 in yards per catch, barely top 10 in total catches.

Wortham is really good, don't get me wrong. But hes not even close to the best receiver in the conference. (He might not be the best receiver in the state). If hes not the best receiver in the conference (I think it's Gbutu or Shulikov) he certainly isn't OPOY.

Hes arguably the best return man in the conference. But hes barely Top 10 for OPOY IMO.
Having seen Gbutu and Shulikov, I would agree with you. They are both good receivers.
Shulikov does a lot more with a lot less talent around him.

Wortham is working with a really good QB (I'd say all conference HM) and a great RB (1st team). He should be doing a whole lot more.
Announcers pointed out that at one point in the second half he had two touches, and were wondering why they weren’t using him more. Thst’s a valid question but I suspect our secondary had something to say about that. Great team win.
Good big sky breakdown by tootell on this tonight. He had one....ONE catch for 3 yards. He had some runs but one catch.
Also, after he tipped the ball to Caden Dowler, he sat on the turf whining with his hands up to the ref instead of trying to make up for the INT he just caused.

I haven't watched enough ball to know if thats typical...but its a sign of a REALLY bad teammate.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by nanacat » Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:51 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:46 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:44 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:10 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:31 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:27 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham only has 80 yards more than Taco. He actually has fewer catches than Taco. Heck, Wortham barely cracks the Top 10 in yards, hes #19 in yards per catch, barely top 10 in total catches.

Wortham is really good, don't get me wrong. But hes not even close to the best receiver in the conference. (He might not be the best receiver in the state). If hes not the best receiver in the conference (I think it's Gbutu or Shulikov) he certainly isn't OPOY.

Hes arguably the best return man in the conference. But hes barely Top 10 for OPOY IMO.
Having seen Gbutu and Shulikov, I would agree with you. They are both good receivers.
Shulikov does a lot more with a lot less talent around him.

Wortham is working with a really good QB (I'd say all conference HM) and a great RB (1st team). He should be doing a whole lot more.
Announcers pointed out that at one point in the second half he had two touches, and were wondering why they weren’t using him more. Thst’s a valid question but I suspect our secondary had something to say about that. Great team win.
Good big sky breakdown by tootell on this tonight. He had one....ONE catch for 3 yards. He had some runs but one catch.
Also, after he tipped the ball to Caden Dowler, he sat on the turf whining with his hands up to the ref instead of trying to make up for the INT he just caused.

I haven't watched enough ball to know if thats typical...but its a sign of a REALLY bad teammate.
He seems like the type of player who is only in it for himself.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by 1890Griz » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by ilovethecats » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:55 am

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
It does doesn’t it? I’m thinking they were a little high on themselves after their undefeated record ignoring the fact they played absolutely no one and had a million games in the friendly confines of wash griz. Then they play an actual good team; who I don’t think played especially good, and lose. Lol



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by GoldstoneCat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:53 am

1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap
Yep, dominated so much you lost. Lol. Gillman is good, he’s going to be first team all conference RB but I think Lamson probably sealed it up today for OPOY.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by lutecat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:07 am

1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap
Dominated? He had one run that doubled his yards. He was good. As advertised. But I disagree he dominated...



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by MrGoodKat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:12 am

I would not argue with Gilman getting the award. He runs behind a mediocre OL and still produces at a high level. Threat in the passing game. Stellar player.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by PapaG » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:13 am

tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham will probably get Newcomer of the Year and Lamson OPOY. I know it doesn’t make sense, but that’s my guess.


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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by SparkCat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:17 am

PapaG wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:13 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham will probably get Newcomer of the Year and Lamson OPOY. I know it doesn’t make sense, but that’s my guess.
Can Wortham get that? Is it Newcomer to a team or to the Big Sky Conference?



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by PapaG » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:23 am

SparkCat wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:17 am
PapaG wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:13 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:02 pm
allcat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:20 pm
I think wortham actually gets the opy.
He shouldn't as OPY. That should not include his return yards. Statistically he isn't top. Lately hasn't had nearly impact on games as 1st half of season. Didn't play against 3rd best team and was average today.
Wortham will probably get Newcomer of the Year and Lamson OPOY. I know it doesn’t make sense, but that’s my guess.
Can Wortham get that? Is it Newcomer to a team or to the Big Sky Conference?
Huh, hadn’t considered it. Since it’s a conference award, he can’t be eligible I suppose.


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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by msugr8 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:35 am

Wortham is a formidable weapon and hurt us initially. But he wasn’t a factor in 2nd half, except for the pass Dowler caught. And he’s definitely not a newcomer.



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by coloradocat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:40 am

You don't get OPOY if you are held to one reception for 3 yards when you play a real defense. Sure he scored a TD running the ball but he was shut down at his natural position.


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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by 1890Griz » Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:25 pm

lutecat wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:07 am
1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap
Dominated? He had one run that doubled his yards. He was good. As advertised. But I disagree he dominated...
He consistently had 10 yard runs and that run still happened. You have to factor in all of his rushes, good players produce in big moments and Gillman did just that. 8+ YPC and had a nasty pancake block early in the game



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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by onceacat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:27 pm

1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap
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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by tetoncat » Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:29 pm

1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:25 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:07 am
1890Griz wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:34 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.
Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap
Dominated? He had one run that doubled his yards. He was good. As advertised. But I disagree he dominated...
He consistently had 10 yard runs and that run still happened. You have to factor in all of his rushes, good players produce in big moments and Gillman did just that. 8+ YPC and had a nasty pancake block early in the game

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Re: OPY, DPY, NOY

Post by RickRund » Sun Nov 23, 2025 12:32 pm

I know the gris are losing lots of seniors. Does Wortham have one more season? Would be a hoot if he got an NIL offer he couldn’t resist, although he didn’t have a great year overall, but a good year, IMHO…


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