New helmets for UC Davis game (Native American Heritage)

[coloradocat]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

[MSU01]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

[CatBlitz]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

Is using American flag colors on the helmet virtue signaling too?

[coloradocat]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

I'm just saying that the fact that they've had alternates two weeks in a row for specific groups unrelated to the football team by definition means that there's a chance they'll do something for another group in the future. Whether people like them or not is really beside the point. If it's happened before there's no reason to assume it can't happen again, regardless of the special group being discussed.

[CatBlitz]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

[MSU01]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

I'm just saying that the fact that they've had alternates two weeks in a row for specific groups unrelated to the football team by definition means that there's a chance they'll do something for another group in the future. Whether people like them or not is really beside the point. If it's happened before there's no reason to assume it can't happen again, regardless of the special group being discussed.

That's fair, since I assume we're all talking about the Pride flag let's just go ahead and say it. My opinion is that MSU would never put that element on its uniforms precisely because of the controversy it would generate. Hard to find much that's controversial about uniforms supporting military service members and the Native American community at MSU. I just disagree with the argument that MSU shouldn't ever do something like this because people are worried about who else might be included in the future.

[Catsrgrood]

Resisting the temptation to respond directly to anyone in this thread, I'll just go ahead and add my opinion that these are freaking awesome and it's awesome that MSU is doing this.

[CatBlitz]

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

I'm just saying that the fact that they've had alternates two weeks in a row for specific groups unrelated to the football team by definition means that there's a chance they'll do something for another group in the future. Whether people like them or not is really beside the point. If it's happened before there's no reason to assume it can't happen again, regardless of the special group being discussed.

That's fair, since I assume we're all talking about the Pride flag let's just go ahead and say it. My opinion is that MSU would never put that element on its uniforms precisely because of the controversy it would generate. Hard to find much that's controversial about uniforms supporting military service members and the Native American community at MSU. I just disagree with the argument that MSU shouldn't ever do something like this because people are worried about who else might be included in the future.

[77matman]

Love the helmet. I’d go a step further. I believe a Native American riding bareback could lead the rodeo team’s run out.

Would have stage appropriately so it presents honorably and doesn’t look like the rodeo team is chasing.

If you haven’t read, the Bloody Bozeman is a good read.

[AFCAT]

I received a message this morning from that seller on eBay that makes great mini helmet versions of the ones the Cats wear. Ugh, now I have to get another one.

[coachouert]

Montana State Football's partnership with the MSU American Indian Council honors indigenous heritage and strengthens community ties. By wearing the MSU AIC logo on their helmets, the Bobcats proudly celebrate Native nations and highlight the university's commitment to inclusion, respect, and cultural representation.

[coachouert]

I received a message this morning from that seller on eBay that makes great mini helmet versions of the ones the Cats wear. Ugh, now I have to get another one.

Got the same message. Need him to do an updated version of the helmet that was worn the past two weeks with the shinier Cats script logo.

EDIT: never mind, he just put it up. Buying that one too I guess.

[AFCAT]

I received a message this morning from that seller on eBay that makes great mini helmet versions of the ones the Cats wear. Ugh, now I have to get another one.

Got the same message. Need him to do an updated version of the helmet that was worn the past two weeks with the shinier Cats script logo.

EDIT: never mind, he just put it up. Buying that one too I guess.

Yeah, this will be me out in front of Bobcat Stadium tomorrow raising money for my bobcat mini-helmet fix.

[rfischer94]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

I'm just saying that the fact that they've had alternates two weeks in a row for specific groups unrelated to the football team by definition means that there's a chance they'll do something for another group in the future. Whether people like them or not is really beside the point. If it's happened before there's no reason to assume it can't happen again, regardless of the special group being discussed.

Veterans and Native Americans have both played for the Cats. Not sure how those groups are unrelated to the football program.

[TomCat88]

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

This game is the perfect example of why your statement is false (as is last week), regardless of how anyone feels specifically about these helmets or the flag. I would prefer the Bobcats stick to their regular uniforms and don't continue down the path of further honoring/marketing/virtue signaling. Find another way to do that stuff.

There's nothing false about my statement. If you or anyone else would prefer that MSU never wear any alternate uniforms you are of course welcome to express that opinion just as I'll continue to express mine!

I'm just saying that the fact that they've had alternates two weeks in a row for specific groups unrelated to the football team by definition means that there's a chance they'll do something for another group in the future. Whether people like them or not is really beside the point. If it's happened before there's no reason to assume it can't happen again, regardless of the special group being discussed.

Veterans and Native Americans have both played for the Cats. Not sure how those groups are unrelated to the football program.

And some were probably both.

[nutman]

Imagine not being to enjoy something nice because you are fighting some dogmatic fight.

[Cataholic]

I am not a fan personally and am scared to think if you don’t just stick to the regular uniforms and logos what could be. I’m sure a large donation could get some very controversial logos out on the field.

Uhh….what?

Very strange comment.

Yes, I get where Bsmith is coming from, but I firmly believe that MSU will never go that route for money or anything else on the football field. Besides the scoreboard is the advertising space, and if its controversial, it will not be there.
I cannot say the same for the U of missoula as they are broke, and in dire need of revenue.

Not sure if many of you know or not but the Bozeman city council did vote to have a certain flag, same one as Missoula, as their official city flag. I have not visited the town since this happened and am not making any plans to stop anytime soon.

Bozeman has numerous city flags.

Very true, and none of them will ever show up on Bobcat football uniforms as one poster here appears to be highly afraid of.

Bingo! And I want to clarify that I was not agreeing with Bsmith, but thought his initial post was very strange. This helmet design by MSU is an extremely nice gesture honoring the history and heritage of Montana. There has been no attempt by anyone to commercialize advertising or political statements by the university. People need to quit creating controversy where it doesn’t exist. Once again, the initial comment is truly strange and not applicable.

[WetBreeches]

"Fear or stupidity has always been the basis of most human actions." -Albert Einstein

[AFCAT]