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Complete Vigen interview.
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Taylor was Lamson's coach at Stanford, I believe.
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The FBS leaches are certainly out looking at successful FCS programs for talent that they can't develop themselves.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:49 amYeah, Powdrell, Polidore, Rohan, Humphrey, and Moore, to name a few. I don't doubt there were other players as well. The FBS leaches are certainly out looking at successful FCS programs for talent that they can't develop themselves.The Butcher wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:41 amI am sure there are several others too.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:39 amYeah, Choate has been trying to snag some MSU players for a few years now. I hear Taco, Adam, and Titan were all offered by FBS programs.
Eh, there’s a decent chance MSU’s starting QB is a dropdown that Stanford helped develop, and the leading rusher could be a transfer Wisconsin helped develop. Many of the recent WRs have been FBS drop-downs, too.
Until MSU implements a no drop-down/portal policy, it seems like sour grapes to complain about players moving up to FBS.
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Who's complaining? It's more of a factual statement.PapaG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:06 pmThe FBS leaches are certainly out looking at successful FCS programs for talent that they can't develop themselves.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:49 amYeah, Powdrell, Polidore, Rohan, Humphrey, and Moore, to name a few. I don't doubt there were other players as well. The FBS leaches are certainly out looking at successful FCS programs for talent that they can't develop themselves.The Butcher wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:41 amI am sure there are several others too.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:39 amYeah, Choate has been trying to snag some MSU players for a few years now. I hear Taco, Adam, and Titan were all offered by FBS programs.
Eh, there’s a decent chance MSU’s starting QB is a dropdown that Stanford helped develop, and the leading rusher could be a transfer Wisconsin helped develop. Many of the recent WRs have been FBS drop-downs, too.
Until MSU implements a no drop-down/portal policy, it seems like sour grapes to complain about players moving up to FBS.
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Leon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
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I would take a hard pass on Troy Taylor as head coach at MSU. The issues at Stanford raise some questions, but I saw him make some real head scratching decisions at Sacramento.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
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Gonna be a hard no from me dawgMSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
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You might give him a hard pass, but any competent AD should at least consider a guy whose record as a head coach in the Big Sky is 23-1 with 3 conference titles in 3 seasons for a school that had done absolutely nothing in its 20+ years in the conference before he got there.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pmI would take a hard pass on Troy Taylor as head coach at MSU. The issues at Stanford raise some questions, but I saw him make some real head scratching decisions at Sacramento.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
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With culture problems including bullying staffers. We don't need that anywhere near this programMSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:40 pmYou might give him a hard pass, but any competent AD should at least consider a guy whose record as a head coach in the Big Sky is 23-1 with 3 conference titles in 3 seasons for a school that had done absolutely nothing in its 20+ years in the conference before he got there.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pmI would take a hard pass on Troy Taylor as head coach at MSU. The issues at Stanford raise some questions, but I saw him make some real head scratching decisions at Sacramento.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
2 of those seasons he had Skattebo, who would turn any team in college football into a contender.
Hard. Pass.
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"Culture problems" that weren't enough to get him fired...until ESPN wrote an article about it that made Stanford look bad. At which point Stanford fired him, but not for cause.damnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:48 pmWith culture problems including bullying staffers. We don't need that anywhere near this programMSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:40 pmYou might give him a hard pass, but any competent AD should at least consider a guy whose record as a head coach in the Big Sky is 23-1 with 3 conference titles in 3 seasons for a school that had done absolutely nothing in its 20+ years in the conference before he got there.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pmI would take a hard pass on Troy Taylor as head coach at MSU. The issues at Stanford raise some questions, but I saw him make some real head scratching decisions at Sacramento.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
2 of those seasons he had Skattebo, who would turn any team in college football into a contender.
Hard. Pass.
Again, not advocating for him but Leon wouldn't be doing his job right (IMO) if he didn't at least talk to Taylor if he's potentially looking for a new job in the next year or two.
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One of the strongest things about Bobcat football is the culture. Why mess with that?MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:57 pm"Culture problems" that weren't enough to get him fired...until ESPN wrote an article about it that made Stanford look bad. At which point Stanford fired him, but not for cause.damnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:48 pmWith culture problems including bullying staffers. We don't need that anywhere near this programMSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:40 pmYou might give him a hard pass, but any competent AD should at least consider a guy whose record as a head coach in the Big Sky is 23-1 with 3 conference titles in 3 seasons for a school that had done absolutely nothing in its 20+ years in the conference before he got there.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pmI would take a hard pass on Troy Taylor as head coach at MSU. The issues at Stanford raise some questions, but I saw him make some real head scratching decisions at Sacramento.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:39 pmLeon doing a little unofficial recruiting/interviewing for MSU's next head coach when Vigen gets his offer he can't refuse?
2 of those seasons he had Skattebo, who would turn any team in college football into a contender.
Hard. Pass.
Again, not advocating for him but Leon wouldn't be doing his job right (IMO) if he didn't at least talk to Taylor if he's potentially looking for a new job in the next year or two.
Taylor has really solid recruiting connections in Northern California. That was key to his success. Finding guys like Scatteboo who was overlooked at a Sacramento area high school.
Beyond the character questions though, I recall watching multiple Sac State games wondering how he had accumulated a good record. Whether it was clock management or going for it on fourth and 700, he left me scratching my head. I would have zero problems with Leon not considering him as any viable candidate.