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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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I don’t think Vigen will get the UNM job. They are focused on candidates with familiarity to the school and area.

The UNLV job just opened up. Once a dead end job, it seems to be a much more attractive option.
Also looks like Marion and perhaps their DC will follow Odom to Purdue, Vigen would be an interesting fit in Vegas. For some reason feel he'd fit in better at UNM.
My hunch would be that UNLV will want to go for a "splashier" hire than Vigen, especially since that is a way more attractive job right now than it has been in the past. Coach Vigen is the ultimate no-nonsense professional, so he and Las Vegas seem to go together about as well as Bobby Hauck and a Toastmasters meeting. UNM seems like a more realistic option but I bet they want to move faster than waiting for Vigen to become available which could still potentially be a month away.
Holman Wiggins is a former UNM player that is currently the co-OC at Texas A&M. He seems like a good choice. And it sounds like former TCU coach Gary Patterson is being pursued and also former Texas Tech coach Matt Wells.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by MSU01 » Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm

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May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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Bobbi Hauck Tuah with 2nd chance at UNLV. That is Splashy!
Would it be Bobbi 2.0.2.0? 3.0? Maybe it becomes Bobbi 4.0 depending on how the math works? I'm not sure.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by tetoncat » Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:25 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:58 pm
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Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:15 pm
May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.
Is he really a candidate for all these or the easy name to throw out since he has FBS coordinator experience, HC experience and team is undefeated and #1 ranked.


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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by CodyCat » Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:36 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:25 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:58 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:15 pm
May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.
Is he really a candidate for all these or the easy name to throw out since he has FBS coordinator experience, HC experience and team is undefeated and #1 ranked.
This is what I think as well. He may be a candidate. But what you said could easily be happening as well


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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by Cataholic » Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:22 am

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:25 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:58 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:15 pm
May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.
Is he really a candidate for all these or the easy name to throw out since he has FBS coordinator experience, HC experience and team is undefeated and #1 ranked.
Those articles also mention his familiarity with the Mountain West since he was at Wyoming. Your question is valid, but you also just a made a pretty good statement on why he should be considered.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by tetoncat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:45 am

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:22 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:25 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:58 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:15 pm
May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.
Is he really a candidate for all these or the easy name to throw out since he has FBS coordinator experience, HC experience and team is undefeated and #1 ranked.
Those articles also mention his familiarity with the Mountain West since he was at Wyoming. Your question is valid, but you also just a made a pretty good statement on why he should be considered.
Agree he should be considered and the schools should reach out. Just doesn't mean he has interest. Just time of year where they will throw names out. Media wants to be first to report. Is he viable, absolutely. Has he contacted any maybe not. I still believe any contact will be thru an agent, so that is possible.


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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by Cledus » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:01 am

I could see Vigen getting an opportunity in a P4 conference, but at a school that's not typically considered a powerhouse, a la Chris Klieman. Maybe Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Maryland, Arizona, etc.


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Post by blueandgoldblitz » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:06 am

I've also heard a lot of people mention Vigen as an option for certain jobs but in this day and age of flight trackers, I haven't seen anyone call out that a jet has come to Bozeman to interview Vigen. I'm feeling like a lot of this "interest" is one sided. They may reach out to Vigen to see if he wants it, but without anyone tracking any flights coming to Bozeman for an interview, I don't feel like Vigen is under legitimate consideration at this time.



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Thought this was interesting. Implication, I think, is that Vigen pulled out. Only two logical reasons to me are that he’s sitting on a bigger offer, or that MSU has ensured him we’re moving up/able to pay a lot more money. The former requires one to believe a school would hire somebody and not announce it, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I could be completely misreading it though.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by Camo_Cat » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:47 am

That line about "That will become obvious in the coming months..."

Is that meant to indicate that Vigen has already made a decision to leave and will announce after the FCS title game, or does it mean that Entz took the Fresno job because of something else that happened? Hmmm...inquiring minds want to know!



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Thought this was interesting. Implication, I think, is that Vigen pulled out. Only two logical reasons to me are that he’s sitting on a bigger offer, or that MSU has ensured him we’re moving up/able to pay a lot more money. The former requires one to believe a school would hire somebody and not announce it, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I could be completely misreading it though.
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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by Cataholic » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 pm

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That line about "That will become obvious in the coming months..."

Is that meant to indicate that Vigen has already made a decision to leave and will announce after the FCS title game, or does it mean that Entz took the Fresno job because of something else that happened? Hmmm...inquiring minds want to know!
Would that timing have been about the same as when the UNLV job opened? Then again, maybe he has a solid offer to take a P5 coordinator position and can wait till the season is over.



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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

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Thought this was interesting. Implication, I think, is that Vigen pulled out. Only two logical reasons to me are that he’s sitting on a bigger offer, or that MSU has ensured him we’re moving up/able to pay a lot more money. The former requires one to believe a school would hire somebody and not announce it, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I could be completely misreading it though.
Another implication could be that Vigen was interested but they didn't agree on the timing, i.e. Fresno wanted him to start immediately but Vigen insisted on coaching out the rest of the season with MSU and not bailing during the playoffs. That wouldn't really explain the "obvious in the coming months" comment though.



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Post by Lord Vigo » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:24 pm

I remember listening to someone-- I *think* Colter-- speculating earlier in the season about a scenario in which MSU goes to Vigen and gives him a projection of where the school is going in the long term and how his salary will increase respectively.

In the past, MSU hasn't made sense as a move-up candidate because they don't bring a big market or a lot of state money to the table. However, the MTW now needs to add schools or risk dissolving and at a certain point, facilities are a necessity. Maybe that need is changing the calculus on adding schools like MSU/UM?

Right now, the teams not moving into the PAC are UNLV, NEV, AF, NM, WYO, and SJSU. MSU would be competitive in a conference with those schools.



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Post by Bobcat Sig » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:32 pm

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I remember listening to someone-- I *think* Colter-- speculating earlier in the season about a scenario in which MSU goes to Vigen and gives him a projection of where the school is going in the long term and how his salary will increase respectively.

In the past, MSU hasn't made sense as a move-up candidate because they don't bring a big market or a lot of state money to the table. However, the MTW now needs to add schools or risk dissolving and at a certain point, facilities are a necessity. Maybe that need is changing the calculus on adding schools like MSU/UM?

Right now, the teams not moving into the PAC are UNLV, NEV, AF, NM, WYO, and SJSU. MSU would be competitive in a conference with those schools.
Agreed.

(Brace thyself for more move-up talk)

The reality is that the FCS is getting weaker as great teams leave for the FBS and the backfil is, erm... lacking. And with this talk of the Snowbelt Conference; MSU absoultely should lead that charge, if they aren't already. Failing that, an injection of the MWC of MSU, um, NDSU, SDSU, Idaho, and UC-Davis would have those old BIg Sky teams immediately competitive with MSU near the top.


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Re: Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

Post by MSU01 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:55 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:58 pm
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Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:15 pm
May need to change the title of this thread to UNLV opening. Vigen has been mentioned as a possible candidate in multiple publications. This has become a good job now and I think they will go with a much flashier hire, but who knows??
For Vigen to get hired there, UNLV would need to (1) overlook the multiple bigger name coaches who will also be interested in that job while also (2) being willing to wait until potentially almost a month after the transfer portal opened to have a new coaching staff in place to start recruiting. Given those two things, to me the chances of Vigen going there are very, very remote.
UNLV is in a bowl game so still playing with an interim coach. They are actively recruiting.

And this isn’t my speculation. It is the national and regional media saying Vigen is a viable candidate.
UNLV is hiring former Mississippi State & Florida head coach Dan Mullen. Always nice when schools hire guys who were unemployed and who don't open up jobs elsewhere. The New Mexico job remains open!



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