Transfer Portal

[Prodigal Cat]

From all accounts he was THE leader of that team and was all in for the Vandals. I think he wanted to go another round in '24 but with everyone leaving he didn't want to be in a rebuild and didn't want to go anywhere else.

[PapaG]

"I also read an article that was about the possibility of the next lawsuit being players suing the NCAA about the 4 year eligibility rule. Basically suing the NCAA for preventing them from making money by playing more years. All of this is fascinating...in a bad way."

Wait, so they want to stay in college longer than 4 years so they can keep playing sports that now pays them to play? So will we now see a lawsuit challenging eligibility based on grades? Because if they're a bad student that shouldn't impede their opportunity to play sports if they're a good athlete, especially when they can get paid big bucks to do it. What a train wreck. Isn't the NCAA the National College Athletics Association? College (school) comes before athletics in that title. This is a school sport, not the pros. Clearly we've lost sight of that. Sigh.

I agree...but the point was that anyone who wants to stay in college for, say, 10 years can. So why is the NCAA limiting their playing eligibility, especially now that they can make big bucks playing. It's a very slippery slope.

Extremely slippery. 30 year old players? Why should the NFL or any pro sport even exist if they can do it all in college? Stupid.

The unlimited eligibility thing won’t happen because most fans don’t want to watch a 32 year-old QB with two kids and a mortgage representing the university. Even if it becomes ‘legal,’ I don’t see it as a major issue as fans turn on the player for taking playing time away from a 19 ear-old. I do think the NIL market is still correcting and if players get smart they will now unionize and hold out for multi-year NIL contracts, at least at the P2 level. It’s where this is heading so it’s either embrace the change or give up being a fan.

[PapaG]

I figured Hatten would hit the portal, with all of the other Idaho skill players leaving.
Instead he's declaring for the draft. And Idaho will have entirely new offense next year.

Makes sense, he's definitely an NFL talent and I can see why he may not feel like sticking around for a 6th year. I'll be happy when the Covid year thing is done and over with!

Tommy has two years left with the Covid year if he wants it, correct?

[91catAlum]

I figured Hatten would hit the portal, with all of the other Idaho skill players leaving.
Instead he's declaring for the draft. And Idaho will have entirely new offense next year.

Makes sense, he's definitely an NFL talent and I can see why he may not feel like sticking around for a 6th year. I'll be happy when the Covid year thing is done and over with!

Tommy has two years left with the Covid year if he wants it, correct?

No just 1. The covid year gave players a extra red shirt basically. But you can still only play 4 years.

[kennethnoisewater]

I figured Hatten would hit the portal, with all of the other Idaho skill players leaving.
Instead he's declaring for the draft. And Idaho will have entirely new offense next year.

Makes sense, he's definitely an NFL talent and I can see why he may not feel like sticking around for a 6th year. I'll be happy when the Covid year thing is done and over with!

Tommy has two years left with the Covid year if he wants it, correct?

No just 1. The covid year gave players a extra red shirt basically. But you can still only play 4 years.

Yeah and adding on to that, if we would have had a season he could have played those games and it wouldn't have counted. But since there were no games, you're right. At MSU it's different for football and basketball, because the basketball teams played that year. At most other schools they got an extra year of playing because they had that season, albeit not a full season.

[PapaG]

I figured Hatten would hit the portal, with all of the other Idaho skill players leaving.
Instead he's declaring for the draft. And Idaho will have entirely new offense next year.

Makes sense, he's definitely an NFL talent and I can see why he may not feel like sticking around for a 6th year. I'll be happy when the Covid year thing is done and over with!

Tommy has two years left with the Covid year if he wants it, correct?

No just 1. The covid year gave players a extra red shirt basically. But you can still only play 4 years.

Too bad the 4-game RS rule + playoffs wasn’t in effect in 2021. Probably would have been used differently during the season.

[Catsrgrood]

The best way to look at the 2020 year is it just simply didn’t count towards anything eligibility wise. That’s where the “gained” year comes from. Some teams played games, most kids at least practiced in some way with their teams that year, none of it counted toward any kind of eligibility, it’s like it didn’t happen.
It’s why we’re seeing so many 6th year seniors in college football right now.
For a kid that was a freshman in 2020, their eligibility could look like this:
Year 1 in school = year 0 in football
Year 2 in school = redshirt year
Year 3 in school = freshman on the field
Year 4 in school = sophomore on the field
Year 5 in school = junior on the field
Year 6 in school = senior on the field.

Throw in a possibility of a medical redshirt somewhere and spending 7 years playing college football is very possible for anyone that was in school during the 2020 Covid year.

[kennethnoisewater]

The best way to look at the 2020 year is it just simply didn’t count towards anything eligibility wise. That’s where the “gained” year comes from. Some teams played games, most kids at least practiced in some way with their teams that year, none of it counted toward any kind of eligibility, it’s like it didn’t happen.
It’s why we’re seeing so many 6th year seniors in college football right now.
For a kid that was a freshman in 2020, their eligibility could look like this:
Year 1 in school = year 0 in football
Year 2 in school = redshirt year
Year 3 in school = freshman on the field
Year 4 in school = sophomore on the field
Year 5 in school = junior on the field
Year 6 in school = senior on the field.

Throw in a possibility of a medical redshirt somewhere and spending 7 years playing college football is very possible for anyone that was in school during the 2020 Covid year.

So year 5 would be next year for those guys, and they'd be juniors. Throw in a medical redshirt and you'd get a 5th year sophomore.

[Catsrgrood]

The best way to look at the 2020 year is it just simply didn’t count towards anything eligibility wise. That’s where the “gained” year comes from. Some teams played games, most kids at least practiced in some way with their teams that year, none of it counted toward any kind of eligibility, it’s like it didn’t happen.
It’s why we’re seeing so many 6th year seniors in college football right now.
For a kid that was a freshman in 2020, their eligibility could look like this:
Year 1 in school = year 0 in football
Year 2 in school = redshirt year
Year 3 in school = freshman on the field
Year 4 in school = sophomore on the field
Year 5 in school = junior on the field
Year 6 in school = senior on the field.

Throw in a possibility of a medical redshirt somewhere and spending 7 years playing college football is very possible for anyone that was in school during the 2020 Covid year.

So year 5 would be next year for those guys, and they'd be juniors. Throw in a medical redshirt and you'd get a 5th year sophomore.

I don’t know if the Cats have anyone that applies to, but it’s possible, yes.

Just another caveat to all of this transfer portal stuff.
Some of these players that are leaving with 1or 2 years of eligibility left have actually been in college for 4-5 years already and have their degrees.

[WalkOn79]

“I’m not going to get what I signed for.”

Great time to be a contract lawyer...

Looks like they did and that’s what’s happening here. The NCAA is keeping him from making his NIL money, so they took them to court. Kind of beats a hole in his playing for his mental health argument though. They may have switched tactics when that mental health argument didn’t fly or it really wasn’t the reason he moved to West Virginia in the first place.

Yep. Wish Raequan would have led with this. Much more honest IMO

[94VegasCat]

Does this portal ****** change or have an effect on APR or is that even a thing anymore?

[MinnesotaBobcat]

It will be interesting to see how hard the Bison get hit by the portal this week. Also Griz/SDSU in a couple weeks. Outside of Bergen and Gilman, I can’t imagine many of their players getting big bags of money. Seems like most of the grizzlies big contributors are seniors on the way out. I think they can probably kiss Gilman goodbye, but Bergen is a Montana kid so I’d imagine he’ll stick around. SDSU is very senior heavy, and my biggest concern if I were them would be the QB. He’ll likely have two titles, some big NIL offers, and nothing more to prove at this level.

[nanacat]

It will be interesting to see how hard the Bison get hit by the portal this week. Also Griz/SDSU in a couple weeks. Outside of Bergen and Gilman, I can’t imagine many of their players getting big bags of money. Seems like most of the grizzlies big contributors are seniors on the way out. I think they can probably kiss Gilman goodbye, but Bergen is a Montana kid so I’d imagine he’ll stick around. SDSU is very senior heavy, and my biggest concern if I were them would be the QB. He’ll likely have two titles, some big NIL offers, and nothing more to prove at this level.

When they had that emergency booster meeting after those players were offered 6 figures I wonder if that had any affect? Now with Entz leaving, no NC, and perhaps a new coach the players didn't want, besides a large amount of seniors leaving, I'm guessing the portal will be full of NDSU players on Monday.
Fairly certain at least Gilman will be gone January 8th regardless of the outcome.

[TomCat88]

I haven’t seen any ndsu players in portal today. They must’ve raised a bunch of money??

Griz landed a good OL from Cal.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I haven’t seen any ndsu players in portal today. They must’ve raised a bunch of money??

Griz landed a good OL from Cal.

Funny enough, he didn’t play at Cal partly because of TJ Sessions.

[91catAlum]

I haven’t seen any ndsu players in portal today. They must’ve raised a bunch of money??

Day ain't over... I'd be very surprised if we don't see any, especially now with the coaching change.

[topshelfthepuck]

It will be interesting to see how hard the Bison get hit by the portal this week. Also Griz/SDSU in a couple weeks. Outside of Bergen and Gilman, I can’t imagine many of their players getting big bags of money. Seems like most of the grizzlies big contributors are seniors on the way out. I think they can probably kiss Gilman goodbye, but Bergen is a Montana kid so I’d imagine he’ll stick around. SDSU is very senior heavy, and my biggest concern if I were them would be the QB. He’ll likely have two titles, some big NIL offers, and nothing more to prove at this level.

The Griz and SDSU will not have big hits from the portal considering the transfer portal window closes January 2nd, 2024 and the National Championship Game isn't until January 7th. Colter brought that up on his latest Big Sky Breakdown Podcast. The players could put their names in but I doubt the coaches are having them play in the championship then. Only possible transfers out would potentially be graduate transferring.

[wbtfg]

It will be interesting to see how hard the Bison get hit by the portal this week. Also Griz/SDSU in a couple weeks. Outside of Bergen and Gilman, I can’t imagine many of their players getting big bags of money. Seems like most of the grizzlies big contributors are seniors on the way out. I think they can probably kiss Gilman goodbye, but Bergen is a Montana kid so I’d imagine he’ll stick around. SDSU is very senior heavy, and my biggest concern if I were them would be the QB. He’ll likely have two titles, some big NIL offers, and nothing more to prove at this level.

The Griz and SDSU will not have big hits from the portal considering the transfer portal window closes January 2nd, 2024 and the National Championship Game isn't until January 7th. Colter brought that up on his latest Big Sky Breakdown Podcast. The players could put their names in but I doubt the coaches are having them play in the championship then. Only possible transfers out would potentially be graduate transferring.

Portal will stay open an additional (5 days, i think???) for athletes competing in the FCS title game.

[Catsrgrood]

I don’t have twitter, so I just rely on the people that repost stuff here related to Cats football or FCS in general.
Any news on any NDSU or even Albany players today? Anyone else in the big sky?

This is going to be a long offseason…

[RKMCMT]

I haven’t seen any ndsu players in portal today. They must’ve raised a bunch of money??

Day ain't over... I'd be very surprised if we don't see any, especially now with the coaching change.

I'd bet the change might even slow the process down. Guessing some players on the fence at least want to hear what the new coach has to say before hitting the exit.