Troy Freaking Andersen!

[rivercat]

I’d guess Troy goes late day 2 or early day 3. He’s raw, but not young for a draft prospect. Has had some injury issues that won’t help him. Chad Muma, for example, is a lot safer prospect with a similar ceiling.

Hopefully Troy gets drafted somewhere that will use him well. Ideally a system that doesn’t require their backers to take on offensive lineman frequently.

I disagree on this. Muma is slightly ahead of Troy as of right now but he has played at that position for 4 years. He will obviously get a bit better with NFL trainers and coaches but he is close to his ceiling. Troy hasn't gotten more than a year at any position and improved vastly through the course of the season and I believe has much farther to go.

I do agree that teams might shy away from him given his injury history depending on just how bad that shoulder was by the end of the year. If he's good now, I think 2019 can somewhat be forgotten given his workload the year before and that year.

I’m curious as to why you think Muma is close to his ceiling?

Anyways, I think Troy is closer to Muma now than he was at the beginning of the season, but Muma is still the better LB by a decent margin.

I agree with technoCat. I think Muma is a really good LB and is very athletic. His ceiling isn't much higher because what can he improve upon? He has always been at LB and knows and plays the position very well. There isn't much risk in drafting him because teams know what they are getting.

Troy on the other hand is a raw talent that is more athletic than Muma. That will prove out in the combine. Teams are taking some risk drafting Troy due to past injuries and inexperience at playing LB. The risk of drafting Troy is greater than Muma but so is the potential reward.

I think you and I differ on how much we think a player can grow or develop post college. I’ve seen a lot of 4 year players progress a lot in the NFL. Cooper Kupp would be a good example. With Muma’s athleticism, if he didn’t have any areas to improve upon, he’d be a top 10 off ball LB day 1 in the league. He’s clearly not that good yet, and clearly has a lot he can improve.

I’m not saying any of this to disparage Troy. I think he can be a very capable NFL starter some day, and that’s amazing. He just has a lot to clean up to get there, imo.

We probably don't differ all that much really. I didn't think you were saying anything to disparage Troy. You're right that Muma will improve in the league. I was at the WY game and was awed with the play of Muma. He was physical and he was constantly making the right play. We agree that Troy has more to improve on than Muma and it will be fun seeing where these 2 end up in their careers.

Muma has the potential to be like the last Wyo LB drafted and currently playing in the NFL. You can see him for yourself this Sunday as logan Wilson starts for Cincinnati this Sunday. Andersen has the potential to be like the current MSU starting linebacker in the NFL Alex Singleton. Troy will not have to take the scenic route of touring the CFL before joining the NFL however, as Troy will be snapped up before round 4 in the draft.
Cant wait to see all these guys next year on Sundays, they are all good.

All due respect to Alex, but Troy has a bigger frame and is faster than Alex. Troy is going to be better than Alex.

Alex is where he's at because of incredible hard work and determination. He is a tacking machine but has issues coverage. That's more a physical limitation than skill deficiency. Troy's physical abilities will not limit him in any portion of the game. On the contrary, he may become elite as his skills progress.

I whole heartedly agree. Currently MSU has one starting LB in the NFL. Troy Andersen has a chance to make it two, but first he has to get there and earn it. I hope Troy can be as good as Alex, time will tell if he can or be even better. When was the last time Bobcat fans got to see two MSU LB's starting in the NFL?....never. I am rooting for the deuce.

Totally agree. Would love to see MSU be called Linebacker U.

[asstastic]

I disagree on this. Muma is slightly ahead of Troy as of right now but he has played at that position for 4 years. He will obviously get a bit better with NFL trainers and coaches but he is close to his ceiling. Troy hasn't gotten more than a year at any position and improved vastly through the course of the season and I believe has much farther to go.

I do agree that teams might shy away from him given his injury history depending on just how bad that shoulder was by the end of the year. If he's good now, I think 2019 can somewhat be forgotten given his workload the year before and that year.

I’m curious as to why you think Muma is close to his ceiling?

Anyways, I think Troy is closer to Muma now than he was at the beginning of the season, but Muma is still the better LB by a decent margin.

I agree with technoCat. I think Muma is a really good LB and is very athletic. His ceiling isn't much higher because what can he improve upon? He has always been at LB and knows and plays the position very well. There isn't much risk in drafting him because teams know what they are getting.

Troy on the other hand is a raw talent that is more athletic than Muma. That will prove out in the combine. Teams are taking some risk drafting Troy due to past injuries and inexperience at playing LB. The risk of drafting Troy is greater than Muma but so is the potential reward.

I think you and I differ on how much we think a player can grow or develop post college. I’ve seen a lot of 4 year players progress a lot in the NFL. Cooper Kupp would be a good example. With Muma’s athleticism, if he didn’t have any areas to improve upon, he’d be a top 10 off ball LB day 1 in the league. He’s clearly not that good yet, and clearly has a lot he can improve.

I’m not saying any of this to disparage Troy. I think he can be a very capable NFL starter some day, and that’s amazing. He just has a lot to clean up to get there, imo.

We probably don't differ all that much really. I didn't think you were saying anything to disparage Troy. You're right that Muma will improve in the league. I was at the WY game and was awed with the play of Muma. He was physical and he was constantly making the right play. We agree that Troy has more to improve on than Muma and it will be fun seeing where these 2 end up in their careers.

Muma has the potential to be like the last Wyo LB drafted and currently playing in the NFL. You can see him for yourself this Sunday as logan Wilson starts for Cincinnati this Sunday. Andersen has the potential to be like the current MSU starting linebacker in the NFL Alex Singleton. Troy will not have to take the scenic route of touring the CFL before joining the NFL however, as Troy will be snapped up before round 4 in the draft.
Cant wait to see all these guys next year on Sundays, they are all good.

All due respect to Alex, but Troy has a bigger frame and is faster than Alex. Troy is going to be better than Alex.

Alex is where he's at because of incredible hard work and determination. He is a tacking machine but has issues coverage. That's more a physical limitation than skill deficiency. Troy's physical abilities will not limit him in any portion of the game. On the contrary, he may become elite as his skills progress.

I whole heartedly agree. Currently MSU has one starting LB in the NFL. Troy Andersen has a chance to make it two, but first he has to get there and earn it. I hope Troy can be as good as Alex, time will tell if he can or be even better. When was the last time Bobcat fans got to see two MSU LB's starting in the NFL?....never. I am rooting for the deuce.

Totally agree. Would love to see MSU be called Linebacker U.

One DivII school in Montana calling themselves Linebacker U is enough.

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

I’m curious as to why you think Muma is close to his ceiling?

Anyways, I think Troy is closer to Muma now than he was at the beginning of the season, but Muma is still the better LB by a decent margin.

I agree with technoCat. I think Muma is a really good LB and is very athletic. His ceiling isn't much higher because what can he improve upon? He has always been at LB and knows and plays the position very well. There isn't much risk in drafting him because teams know what they are getting.

Troy on the other hand is a raw talent that is more athletic than Muma. That will prove out in the combine. Teams are taking some risk drafting Troy due to past injuries and inexperience at playing LB. The risk of drafting Troy is greater than Muma but so is the potential reward.

I think you and I differ on how much we think a player can grow or develop post college. I’ve seen a lot of 4 year players progress a lot in the NFL. Cooper Kupp would be a good example. With Muma’s athleticism, if he didn’t have any areas to improve upon, he’d be a top 10 off ball LB day 1 in the league. He’s clearly not that good yet, and clearly has a lot he can improve.

I’m not saying any of this to disparage Troy. I think he can be a very capable NFL starter some day, and that’s amazing. He just has a lot to clean up to get there, imo.

We probably don't differ all that much really. I didn't think you were saying anything to disparage Troy. You're right that Muma will improve in the league. I was at the WY game and was awed with the play of Muma. He was physical and he was constantly making the right play. We agree that Troy has more to improve on than Muma and it will be fun seeing where these 2 end up in their careers.

Muma has the potential to be like the last Wyo LB drafted and currently playing in the NFL. You can see him for yourself this Sunday as logan Wilson starts for Cincinnati this Sunday. Andersen has the potential to be like the current MSU starting linebacker in the NFL Alex Singleton. Troy will not have to take the scenic route of touring the CFL before joining the NFL however, as Troy will be snapped up before round 4 in the draft.
Cant wait to see all these guys next year on Sundays, they are all good.

All due respect to Alex, but Troy has a bigger frame and is faster than Alex. Troy is going to be better than Alex.

Alex is where he's at because of incredible hard work and determination. He is a tacking machine but has issues coverage. That's more a physical limitation than skill deficiency. Troy's physical abilities will not limit him in any portion of the game. On the contrary, he may become elite as his skills progress.

I whole heartedly agree. Currently MSU has one starting LB in the NFL. Troy Andersen has a chance to make it two, but first he has to get there and earn it. I hope Troy can be as good as Alex, time will tell if he can or be even better. When was the last time Bobcat fans got to see two MSU LB's starting in the NFL?....never. I am rooting for the deuce.

Totally agree. Would love to see MSU be called Linebacker U.

One DivII school in Montana calling themselves Linebacker U is enough.

Username checks out.

[rivercat]

I agree with technoCat. I think Muma is a really good LB and is very athletic. His ceiling isn't much higher because what can he improve upon? He has always been at LB and knows and plays the position very well. There isn't much risk in drafting him because teams know what they are getting.

Troy on the other hand is a raw talent that is more athletic than Muma. That will prove out in the combine. Teams are taking some risk drafting Troy due to past injuries and inexperience at playing LB. The risk of drafting Troy is greater than Muma but so is the potential reward.

I think you and I differ on how much we think a player can grow or develop post college. I’ve seen a lot of 4 year players progress a lot in the NFL. Cooper Kupp would be a good example. With Muma’s athleticism, if he didn’t have any areas to improve upon, he’d be a top 10 off ball LB day 1 in the league. He’s clearly not that good yet, and clearly has a lot he can improve.

I’m not saying any of this to disparage Troy. I think he can be a very capable NFL starter some day, and that’s amazing. He just has a lot to clean up to get there, imo.

We probably don't differ all that much really. I didn't think you were saying anything to disparage Troy. You're right that Muma will improve in the league. I was at the WY game and was awed with the play of Muma. He was physical and he was constantly making the right play. We agree that Troy has more to improve on than Muma and it will be fun seeing where these 2 end up in their careers.

Muma has the potential to be like the last Wyo LB drafted and currently playing in the NFL. You can see him for yourself this Sunday as logan Wilson starts for Cincinnati this Sunday. Andersen has the potential to be like the current MSU starting linebacker in the NFL Alex Singleton. Troy will not have to take the scenic route of touring the CFL before joining the NFL however, as Troy will be snapped up before round 4 in the draft.
Cant wait to see all these guys next year on Sundays, they are all good.

All due respect to Alex, but Troy has a bigger frame and is faster than Alex. Troy is going to be better than Alex.

Alex is where he's at because of incredible hard work and determination. He is a tacking machine but has issues coverage. That's more a physical limitation than skill deficiency. Troy's physical abilities will not limit him in any portion of the game. On the contrary, he may become elite as his skills progress.

I whole heartedly agree. Currently MSU has one starting LB in the NFL. Troy Andersen has a chance to make it two, but first he has to get there and earn it. I hope Troy can be as good as Alex, time will tell if he can or be even better. When was the last time Bobcat fans got to see two MSU LB's starting in the NFL?....never. I am rooting for the deuce.

Totally agree. Would love to see MSU be called Linebacker U.

One DivII school in Montana calling themselves Linebacker U is enough.

Username checks out.

Remind me of the NFL teams um alums are currently playing on.

[94VegasCat]

Maybe not both starters but careers overlapped barely of Ken Amato and Dane Fletcher. Amatos’ bio says Long Snapper for the Titans but I know he played a fair amount of LB during his time their.

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[AFCAT]

[TomCat88]

[RockyBearCat]

I think we will see another bump after the combine. Early 3rd would be nice, not thinking he will move to 2nd round.

[wbtfg]

Random question....I assume Troy signed with an agent as soon as he was able. Has it been reported who he signed with?

[ND0479]

Random question....I assume Troy signed with an agent as soon as he was able. Has it been reported who he signed with?

Rep1 Sports Agency

https://www.sanfordsports.com/news_article/show/1203054

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

I do not keep up with sports agents really at all. Is that closer to Tom Condon or the goofy dudes you get at the beginning of Superstar Mode on Madden?

[DMMDCats]

I do not keep up with sports agents really at all. Is that closer to Tom Condon or the goofy dudes you get at the beginning of Superstar Mode on Madden?

https://www.forbes.com/companies/rep-1- ... 0ea93a7683

With more than $1 billion in active contracts, Rep 1 Sports has further cemented itself as one of the top multi-sport agencies in the world.

[Team10]

Troy's interview with Sanford Power Center

[AFCAT]

Troy's interview with Sanford Power Center

You’d think such a wealthy company could afford a video support staff.

[CatBot]

Troy's interview with Sanford Power Center

You’d think such a wealthy company could afford a video support staff.

Me thinks this was by design. Nothing says "ain't a damn thing wrong with my shoulder" as a game of golf.

[AFCAT]

Troy's interview with Sanford Power Center

You’d think such a wealthy company could afford a video support staff.

Me thinks this was by design. Nothing says "ain't a damn thing wrong with my shoulder" as a game of golf.

I was thinking more along the lines of the 2 minute wait on the video before Troy came on. That could have easily been edited out. No big deal, just humorous to me.

[The Butcher]

I do not keep up with sports agents really at all. Is that closer to Tom Condon or the goofy dudes you get at the beginning of Superstar Mode on Madden?

https://www.forbes.com/companies/rep-1- ... 0ea93a7683

With more than $1 billion in active contracts, Rep 1 Sports has further cemented itself as one of the top multi-sport agencies in the world.

It is crazy that Rep 1 is part of Sanford Health which is a hospital system based out of Sioux Falls (the largest in the Dakotas). They were actually going to merge with Intermountain Healthcare in Salt Lake (the largest healthcare system in Utah), but Sanford Health's ex-CEO made some embarrassing statements and the merger was canceled. Anyway, a hospital system getting into sport agency isn't something that I would have expected.

[St George]

I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall at the Senior Bowl if Troy and Muma had any conversations.

[kennethnoisewater]

I do not keep up with sports agents really at all. Is that closer to Tom Condon or the goofy dudes you get at the beginning of Superstar Mode on Madden?

https://www.forbes.com/companies/rep-1- ... 0ea93a7683

With more than $1 billion in active contracts, Rep 1 Sports has further cemented itself as one of the top multi-sport agencies in the world.

It is crazy that Rep 1 is part of Sanford Health which is a hospital system based out of Sioux Falls (the largest in the Dakotas). They were actually going to merge with Intermountain Healthcare in Salt Lake (the largest healthcare system in Utah), but Sanford Health's ex-CEO made some embarrassing statements and the merger was canceled. Anyway, a hospital system getting into sport agency isn't something that I would have expected.

Find the money and go get it! It is funny that Sanford is that diversified. I'd think that $1B under contract is just a start for them...I mean there are a ton of $100M contracts out there, and Patrick Mahomes has a $500M+ contract without endorsements (and I'd imagine endorsements are included in Sanford's total). Shoot, I've heard LeBron's contract with Nike is $1B. That's a nice account for an agent to have! Seems to me an agency could get to $10B worldwide pretty realistically, and I'm sure some agencies are there.