If these guys were actually football guys, they would understand that the DB's were "owned" because our front 4 couldn't get consistent pressure on Rittenhouse. Any decent receiver gets open if they have more time.....even against elite corners. Those o-line Redbirds played great.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
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Norsky19 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 11:16 amI never watch anything by commentators. I saw the game live and watched it again on youtube. Why do I need these folks to tell me what I saw? Maybe fans who don't know football need to hear that but anyone who's played and coached the game....waste of time.
That might be true……. But I’m willing to bet the vast majority of fans across the state (like 99%) did NOT play or coach college football. Haha.
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I think way the game played out gives MSU more incentive going into next year. I think they know they didn't play "up to their own standards" as they say often. I don't think MSU is the kind of team you want to say 'they just got lucky' about. A single game doesn't usually tell you everything about a team. It's just a snapshot, but depending on the game, it's everything.
If you go listen to Vigen on the "Bobcat Show" that Keaton Gillogly does on TV (it's on youtube) and listen to that interview, you'll get the best take on the game and how MSU found its way. Paul Brott also has some great insights that he shared.
- they knew McMillan was the best chance to get the block.
- the teams mental exercises played a huge role throughout the game, especially the last three minutes and OT.
- the final play was very well diagnosed, and Lamson/Dowler was no random event.
If you go listen to Vigen on the "Bobcat Show" that Keaton Gillogly does on TV (it's on youtube) and listen to that interview, you'll get the best take on the game and how MSU found its way. Paul Brott also has some great insights that he shared.
- they knew McMillan was the best chance to get the block.
- the teams mental exercises played a huge role throughout the game, especially the last three minutes and OT.
- the final play was very well diagnosed, and Lamson/Dowler was no random event.
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At best questionable an analysis at worst delusional rambling by Brooks spurred by jealousy of the Cats being National Champions. Are we sure that what he really meant wasn’t “I hope Seth Johnson fails because the gris don’t have a corner good enough to transfer to Iowa State”?mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
It’s paraphrasing but I heard they’re implying that the score was too close so it’s not really a National Championship. I haven’t listened but if that’s accurate that implication goes a long way to discredit them on the grounds of insanity.
Wasn’t their overarching analysis prior to the semi game is “it’s hard to beat good team twice” how’d that age? I vividly remember a semis game where the Cats body-bagged the illiterates. Maybe Colter and Brooks have a different recollection than mine.
Those two will run cover for the gris as long as they have ties to the gris athletic department. Remember, Colter is “impartial”…allegedly
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I remember when someone asked Vigen about it being "Tough to beat a team twice..." He said something like... "I don't even know where that comes from."gris_h8er wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:43 pmAt best questionable an analysis at worst delusional rambling by Brooks spurred by jealousy of the Cats being National Champions. Are we sure that what he really meant wasn’t “I hope Seth Johnson fails because the gris don’t have a corner good enough to transfer to Iowa State”?mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
It’s paraphrasing but I heard they’re implying that the score was too close so it’s not really a National Championship. I haven’t listened but if that’s accurate that implication goes a long way to discredit them on the grounds of insanity.
Wasn’t their overarching analysis prior to the semi game is “it’s hard to beat good team twice” how’d that age? I vividly remember a semis game where the Cats body-bagged the illiterates. Maybe Colter and Brooks have a different recollection than mine.
Those two will run cover for the gris as long as they have ties to the gris athletic department. Remember, Colter is “impartial”…allegedly
I trust Vigen more than pretty much anybody in terms of understanding football.
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I would say that Colter is impartial, though sometimes to a fault. He's more willing to start a conversation and let his guest talk than to correct them when they say something incorrect or take things out of context to further their argument. I can understand where he's coming from there and that if he disagreed with people too much they would be less willing to participate and it could end up just becoming like every other sports show where two guys argue back and forth. My hope is that everyone in MT media relaxes and recharges over the next 7 months and moves on to the 2026 season.gris_h8er wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:43 pmAt best questionable an analysis at worst delusional rambling by Brooks spurred by jealousy of the Cats being National Champions. Are we sure that what he really meant wasn’t “I hope Seth Johnson fails because the gris don’t have a corner good enough to transfer to Iowa State”?mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
It’s paraphrasing but I heard they’re implying that the score was too close so it’s not really a National Championship. I haven’t listened but if that’s accurate that implication goes a long way to discredit them on the grounds of insanity.
Wasn’t their overarching analysis prior to the semi game is “it’s hard to beat good team twice” how’d that age? I vividly remember a semis game where the Cats body-bagged the illiterates. Maybe Colter and Brooks have a different recollection than mine.
Those two will run cover for the gris as long as they have ties to the gris athletic department. Remember, Colter is “impartial”…allegedly
Showing pressure on fourth down in overtime. They bring pressure. Lamson throws...Endzone! Caught! TOUCHDOWN!!! Taco Dowler!
And a kick away from a championship.
Here we go. Miles Sansted. Snap, hold, kick, Up, GOOOOD!! FOR A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!
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Page 21 of this thread had everything.
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Funny I’ve never gone back that far in this thread to read it.! Lol
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I’ve been thinking the same thing. Colter is too impartial. He plays the part of a host interviewing an “expert”. But often when talking to his brother or Tootel about the Cats, he knows way more than his expert and I think the content would be better if he pressed them a little bit on their wild takes.coloradocat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 6:14 pmI would say that Colter is impartial, though sometimes to a fault. He's more willing to start a conversation and let his guest talk than to correct them when they say something incorrect or take things out of context to further their argument. I can understand where he's coming from there and that if he disagreed with people too much they would be less willing to participate and it could end up just becoming like every other sports show where two guys argue back and forth. My hope is that everyone in MT media relaxes and recharges over the next 7 months and moves on to the 2026 season.gris_h8er wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:43 pmAt best questionable an analysis at worst delusional rambling by Brooks spurred by jealousy of the Cats being National Champions. Are we sure that what he really meant wasn’t “I hope Seth Johnson fails because the gris don’t have a corner good enough to transfer to Iowa State”?mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
It’s paraphrasing but I heard they’re implying that the score was too close so it’s not really a National Championship. I haven’t listened but if that’s accurate that implication goes a long way to discredit them on the grounds of insanity.
Wasn’t their overarching analysis prior to the semi game is “it’s hard to beat good team twice” how’d that age? I vividly remember a semis game where the Cats body-bagged the illiterates. Maybe Colter and Brooks have a different recollection than mine.
Those two will run cover for the gris as long as they have ties to the gris athletic department. Remember, Colter is “impartial”…allegedly
I don’t know what our corners were promised, but they’re going to Iowa State, Indiana, and UCLA. Doesn’t seem too bad and I’m guessing they are better evaluators of talent than I am.
Brooks was also saying something about the “Catatonic Cats”. I was thinking of going back and listening again to see if I understood correctly, but I don’t think I’ll have time. But, it was something about the Bobcats always have lapses in play. (Like a reputation from 20 years ago?) I thought for a guy with a background in sports that is an incredibly stupid take. Every team has periods where they don’t play as well. And that was the question of the grizzlies whole season. Were they ever going to play well for a whole game??
Also, Coach Vigen prioritizes efficient play: 3rd down efficiency, point per possession, etc. and in the chipper, they had 3 TD on 3 possessions. Very good, but ISU held us to only 3 possessions, and the time of possession was starting to add up.
Anyway, I love having Colter cover our team and I love the effort he puts in. I wish his experts would watch the games before they talk about them, though. Or at least let people know, they know very little about the subject matter before they throw their opinions out.
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Not bad! Obviously this is 100% AI recap, and that is where the world is going but this wasn't terrible. Still brand new, and it will keep improving. Unfortunately, I think it's coming at us like freight train, this will be the norm.
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The only reason I posted it is, there’s a few pretty good video shots
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I don’t know where it came from either but I had a blast poking fun at it since the week of Cat-gris 2.0catatac wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 5:59 pmI remember when someone asked Vigen about it being "Tough to beat a team twice..." He said something like... "I don't even know where that comes from."gris_h8er wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:43 pmAt best questionable an analysis at worst delusional rambling by Brooks spurred by jealousy of the Cats being National Champions. Are we sure that what he really meant wasn’t “I hope Seth Johnson fails because the gris don’t have a corner good enough to transfer to Iowa State”?mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 10:58 am
I agree that the “maroon glasses” was a bit much in this episode…. Still phenomenal content and insight though.
I know they insist they are neutral…. But they went to UM, in my opinion it’s ok if they have slight “maroon glasses” at times. They probably should.
Side note- I thought it was interesting at the end talking about the 3 DB’s who immediately hit the portal, basically before they had even reached the trophy presentation stage, ha……. They didn’t really sugarcoat their feelings about that and just how absolutely insane it is for that to happen immediately after the game ended….
Something along the lines of “seth Johnson got owned all game by sobkowitz, and then immediately goes to Iowa state…. Good luck, you will be going against 5 of those guys every game over there.”
It’s paraphrasing but I heard they’re implying that the score was too close so it’s not really a National Championship. I haven’t listened but if that’s accurate that implication goes a long way to discredit them on the grounds of insanity.
Wasn’t their overarching analysis prior to the semi game is “it’s hard to beat good team twice” how’d that age? I vividly remember a semis game where the Cats body-bagged the illiterates. Maybe Colter and Brooks have a different recollection than mine.
Those two will run cover for the gris as long as they have ties to the gris athletic department. Remember, Colter is “impartial”…allegedly
I trust Vigen more than pretty much anybody in terms of understanding football.
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No need to start a whole new thread on this, but a take of mine was we were outcoached in that game. Specifically not being able to adjust for our snap issues, conservative play calls in second half.
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Specifically? That word should come in your next sentence that explains, specifically, why you think the snap issues are coaching issues and what they could've told the players to fix it, and what plays you though were conservative.Common Cat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 13, 2026 2:29 pmNo need to start a whole new thread on this, but a take of mine was we were outcoached in that game. Specifically not being able to adjust for our snap issues, conservative play calls in second half.
The snap issues seem like they could just as easily be on the players. Kind of like saying the coach should fix a team's poor free throw shooting during halftime or during a timeout. Whenever an offense is struggling someone says it's poor play calling, kind of like when their team doesn't get a rebound they say, "box out!!!"
The worst play call I saw was when ISU ran the ball from its own 10 with :12 to play. Fumble, clock stops, send in FG unit.
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