Bobcat Portal News

[RobertSebastianCat-81]

Yes, thanks Mr Goodkat. It may be interesting to include the coaches (Chambers) and other former Bobcats (Powdrell) that are moving on. But I'm not the boss of you.

[coloradocat]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

[lutecat]

Yeah noone is going to feel like an Indiana natty is cheapened because that's a never been competitive school winning. No fanbase that wins a natty is going to feel like its cheapened because of NIL.

[BelligerentBobcat]

@BelligerentBobcat

You claimed this earlier

“I understand that, but no coaching staff is going to be bold enough to host a player who hasn’t entered the portal. Work the lines through agents, sure. A full visit? No way.”

Then how does this happen? I’m telling you it’s ugly out there

Because the date they announce they’re in the portal on Twitter isn’t always the same date they actually enter it.

As an example, Javonte King announced it yesterday, but he got approved for it on the 5th.

Regardless, Caden flew home on the team charter and was in surgery on the days of his supposed visits. Somebody got their info wrong.

[bobcatbob]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

You are right, nobody is forcing them. But, they have agents blowing a lot of smoke at them. One thing is sure, education is no longer part of the equation.

[thisnamesucks]

RE: paying the players

You can’t pretend money and other things weren’t being used to entice guys to play for a specific team before NIL.

I don’t like it either and think collective bargaining is needed to regulate some of this.

[coloradocat]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

You are right, nobody is forcing them. But, they have agents blowing a lot of smoke at them. One thing is sure, education is no longer part of the equation.

I can't imagine what Taco has gone through since Monday night. I'm sure it was overwhelming before that but it has to be on another level now.

[catatac]

So a lot of players who enter the portal due to pride never end up getting offers. They lose their scholarships and careers.

The other guys get sweet nothings whispered into their ears from schools that amount to be… well, nothing. We saw that with Infanse and Glesner and the Texas Tech OL guy that is a memory. A few of them hit the jackpot, like Diego Pavia, but those cases are rare.

These kids are entering the portal at their own risk. We need to get used to the fact that we are a minor league development program when it comes to out of state (Texas) kids now. In my opinion if these guys want to be treated like pros, there should be a contract involved with the schools. That would mean collective bargaining, which nobody on the landscape has the balls or power to do. NIL and the transfer portal has totally f’d up college sports. Portal kids will never have a true Alma Mater or a group of teammates that they can claim and lean on as lifelong brothers. It sucks.

I"m with you on pretty much all of this, and I cringe every time our Cats lose a good player to the portal. It does suck. But..... since this all started, the Cats have played in 3 National Championships in the last five years, and just won the National Championship for the first time in 41 years....... so at the moment I am very, very happy. If none of this nonsense existed, would the Cats have won it all on Monday? Maybe. Would they have won MORE National Championships over the past five years? Maybe. Nobody knows. That's my glass half full speech for the day.

[luckyirishguy25]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

You are right, nobody is forcing them. But, they have agents blowing a lot of smoke at them. One thing is sure, education is no longer part of the equation.

I can't imagine what Taco has gone through since Monday night. I'm sure it was overwhelming before that but it has to be on another level now.

I bet Oregon is calling.

[Prodigal Cat]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

You are right, nobody is forcing them. But, they have agents blowing a lot of smoke at them. One thing is sure, education is no longer part of the equation.

I can't imagine what Taco has gone through since Monday night. I'm sure it was overwhelming before that but it has to be on another level now.

Taco should just find someone to do the meetings Ben Affleck style in Good Will hunting. See how much petty cash he could drum up from all the shady agents come sniffing around

[RyeCat]

Taco’s phone is likely on DND. He’s in Mexico with his fiancée.

[HookedOnGriz]

@BelligerentBobcat

You claimed this earlier

“I understand that, but no coaching staff is going to be bold enough to host a player who hasn’t entered the portal. Work the lines through agents, sure. A full visit? No way.”

Then how does this happen? I’m telling you it’s ugly out there

Because the date they announce they’re in the portal on Twitter isn’t always the same date they actually enter it.

As an example, Javonte King announced it yesterday, but he got approved for it on the 5th.

Regardless, Caden flew home on the team charter and was in surgery on the days of his supposed visits. Somebody got their info wrong.

OK, that is fair. If that is actually what’s happening. I just thought it was really weird that he finally publicly announced the portal yesterday when he was obviously committed and ready to go with SEMO days prior.

[coloradocat]

This is an interesting take on the portal and NIL by a former Arizona State player.

Juan Rogue

I'm gonna weigh in on this Transfer Portal ****** because it needs to be said. To start this is getting out of hand. You have what are supposed to be amateur college athletes now being all about the money. College Football is no longer about being given a chance to get a free education and playing the sport you love. It's no longer about establishing yourself at your Alma Mater and earning recognition and even becoming a legend there over the FOUR OR FIVE YEARS that they were on campus (Three if the player left early for the NFL). It's no longer about the legacy it's about the loot and how much a player can get. Legend has given way to dollars and the Mercenary Marketplace known as the "Transfer Portal" has, in my opinion, assassinated the spirit of college football. It's no longer about "My Teammates" and "My Coaches" it's about "My Bank Account!" I get it that the landscape has changed and that compensation has become part of the deal now but the stink of this money is hard to deny. Yeah okay a team wins a Natty now people are gonna say what's true; it was the best team that money can buy. That to me takes away from the meaningful accomplishment of winning. Wins are no longer earned they're bought with Billionaire Donor Dollars or Wealthy NIL Collectives.
Next is the situation that relates to TWO former ASU Quarterbacks: Jaden Rashada and Sam Leavitt. The irony is two years ago both these kids were here in Tempe. After Spring one left, Jaden, when the other, Sam, beat him out in Spring. The sad part of this is Jaden left school and went to Georgia where he did not play. Then he transferred to FCS Sacramento State and was hurt again and did not play any meaningful snaps. He's in the Portal again looking for his fifth school. How does THAT lead to success for this kid? He in essence has lost three years of football over this NIL nonsense. His plight started when he changed commitments from Miami to Florida over a huge NIL carrot that was dangled in front of him only to have it turn out to be ******. Rashada got out of his Letter of Intent with Florida, sued them for Breach of Contract (lawsuit still pending) then landed here at ASU for one year and did nothing. Now he's three years older, has no meaningful experience and is looking for someone to pick him up. I'm sure he will get a shot somewhere but damn! Sad man, just sad!

All of this is true but these guys don't have to transfer and chase after NIL. We have a ton of guys that aren't leaving and they aren't all from MT. I know the $$ promises are high but nobody is being forced to play that game.

You are right, nobody is forcing them. But, they have agents blowing a lot of smoke at them. One thing is sure, education is no longer part of the equation.

I can't imagine what Taco has gone through since Monday night. I'm sure it was overwhelming before that but it has to be on another level now.

I bet Oregon is calling.

I bet Oregon has been calling since about an hour after the week 1 game.

[MSU01]

So right now in terms of the roster numbers, MSU has lost 18 players from the 2025 roster with 9 graduating seniors and 9 players in the portal. They signed 20 incoming freshmen so are still at a +2 count overall for next year's roster. If the portal entries are going to (hopefully) start to taper off here after the initial flurry then there won't be a lot of roster spots open for incoming transfers.

[TomCat88]

So right now in terms of the roster numbers, MSU has lost 18 players from the 2025 roster with 9 graduating seniors and 9 players in the portal. They signed 20 incoming freshmen so are still at a +2 count overall for next year's roster. If the portal entries are going to (hopefully) start to taper off here after the initial flurry then there won't be a lot of roster spots open for incoming transfers.

In the cold, hard world of college football aren't scholarships one-year deals? I think players have had reductions over the years, so the staff was able to bring in transfers at the cost of reducing funds to another player. I say this not knowing anything about how MSU/Vigen/Costello do things. Just a thought.

If things hold, then MSU is in really good shape next year. I'd be a little edgy about that though, because I haven't seen anyone proclaim they're staying. I have an inkling that the Collective, et al are doing everything they can to keep guys like Lamson, Taco, Caden, Jones, Steel, Lencioni, Fleischmann, Zimmer, Mastel, Crews, Marsh, Black, Daily, Taylor, Grebe, Carr, Taki, and probably a few others on board. That's a lot of names (17), so if someone is driving a hard bargain, then it might be tough to keep them all. Every one of them is deeply invested in MSU, so that would help.

[The Butcher]

I’m curious to see where Hunter Provience ends up. Is the goal a lower-level FBS program? Is this more about playing time or something else? I can’t imagine money is the driver, but who knows.

[luckyirishguy25]

I’m curious to see where Hunter Provience ends up. Is the goal a lower-level FBS program? Is this more about playing time or something else? I can’t imagine money is the driver, but who knows.

From the tweet i saw he's getting P4 interest.

[kwcat]

So right now in terms of the roster numbers, MSU has lost 18 players from the 2025 roster with 9 graduating seniors and 9 players in the portal. They signed 20 incoming freshmen so are still at a +2 count overall for next year's roster. If the portal entries are going to (hopefully) start to taper off here after the initial flurry then there won't be a lot of roster spots open for incoming transfers.

In the cold, hard world of college football aren't scholarships one-year deals? I think players have had reductions over the years, so the staff was able to bring in transfers at the cost of reducing funds to another player. I say this not knowing anything about how MSU/Vigen/Costello do things. Just a thought.

If things hold, then MSU is in really good shape next year. I'd be a little edgy about that though, because I haven't seen anyone proclaim they're staying. I have an inkling that the Collective, et al are doing everything they can to keep guys like Lamson, Taco, Caden, Jones, Steel, Lencioni, Fleischmann, Zimmer, Mastel, Crews, Marsh, Black, Daily, Taylor, Grebe, Carr, Taki, and probably a few others on board. That's a lot of names (17), so if someone is driving a hard bargain, then it might be tough to keep them all. Every one of them is deeply invested in MSU, so that would help.

Then there are a few that are sitting on the depth chart right now in good position but getting antsy about playing time. Hopefully they are patient and keep working hard.

[The Butcher]

I’m curious to see where Hunter Provience ends up. Is the goal a lower-level FBS program? Is this more about playing time or something else? I can’t imagine money is the driver, but who knows.

From the tweet i saw he's getting P4 interest.

I remember the same when Scottre Humphrey hit the portal, and we know how that worked out... But again, I have no idea.

[PortlandCat90]

Not specific to the Bobcats, so move as needed:

While in Nashvegas I met (drank) with a friend of a friend that is a position coach at an SEC school. I asked him about the portal and he mentioned it is as dirty as it comes, depending on the school's reaction. It all stems from the agents. Agents call around asking schools if they want "Player X", what his role will be, and how much they will pay him. The agents collect this data after calling several schools and then proceed to contact the player/family, introduce themself, and discuss the opportunities about their findings. They then negotiate the agent's cut with the family/player - typically 5 - 15% - and then go back to work negotiating with the schools. This is true even before the player has entered the portal or before the portal entry date. Players are reporting numerous agent calls.

www.cfbdepth.com tracks and analyzes each FBS school activity including the player evaluations and net transfer portal score. OK State is leading the paper usage with 58 portal entries and 28 signees out of a roster of 114.....51% of their team went into the portal so far. Florida State has the lowest net transfer rating of -318.0 and Indiana the highest at 81.0.

Over 26% of active FBS players are in the portal today.

Coincidentally, there are only 2 teams to-date with more signees than portal entries - Indiana and Ole Miss.