Carson williams…

[mslacatfan]

Had a post on his Twitter account yesterday “announcement coming soon…”. And then he deleted it a little bit later.

I’m hoping that it has to do with a something about a new car he is buying, maybe an announcement about some good grades he had this last semester?….. getting engaged?…. maybe just an announcement about how much he loves the bobcats?….

But I’m a little nervous. Ha. Sure hope he doesn’t leave.

On another note- I’m sure vigen and crew have had MULTIPLE conversations with the team this year about this exact thing. Ensuring that the portal does not become a distraction leading up to Nashville (like it was last year).

[TomCat88]

Massive donation.
MSU is going to MWC.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I know nothing, but I definitely expect some of these guys to transfer up. It's just the reality of having good football players at this level.

It happened last year, it happened the year before, it will happen this year. MSU will be fine.

[MSU01]

I know nothing, but I definitely expect some of these guys to transfer up. It's just the reality of having good football players at this level.

It happened last year, it happened the year before, it will happen this year. MSU will be fine.

I'll walk 46 miles around Bobcat Stadium like that guy did after the Oregon game if MSU retains all of its cornerbacks this off-season! But probably not a great look to be teasing one's portal announcement before the season is over yet. These guys likely have a very good idea of where they're going already if they decide to leave.

[mslacatfan]

I know it’s unrealistic….. but man, can you imagine this secondary staying in tact for the next 3 years….

It would be unreal.

That is what I miss the most about the “old days”, seeing really good freshman and sophomores come around and know you have several years to watch them dominate.

It Is what it is though, the good news is that vigen has proven he can rebuild/reload each season no matter what happens in the portal.

[SparkCat]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

[Catsrgrood]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

That’s my hope as well. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking from a fan, but I think they’d benefit greatly from one more year at this level. I’d just about guarantee they don’t all stay all 4 years, that’s the reality, but it sure would be nice to get one more year together. If they continue to progress and have a better year next year, they’ll have their pick of schools at that point while still having 2 years to play.

With the amount of players we should have coming back, on paper anyway, we should expect to be as good or better next year. It’s going to depend heavily on just how many guys we lose.

[gtapp]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

Wouldn’t be surprised. He’s very good.

[Cataholic]

Used to be four years and hoping to be discovered by an NFL scout allowing you just a chance to make a team. Now it is 1 or 2 years and getting offered more money from another college than if you were an undrafted free agent.

[91catAlum]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

That's about what Connor Moore got from Michigan state last year, from what I heard.
It's just insane money getting thrown at these guys.

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

Wouldn’t be surprised. He’s very good.

I think similar to the DBs, he will do wonders with one more year at this level to increase his value. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he balls out next year, gets even better, and puts on even more weight, he'd be getting 1.5 to 2 million offers from actually good P4 schools instead of NW, Rutgers, Michigan State etc...

Zimmer has got NFL potential written all over him. If he miraculously does end up staying all 4 years, then he will be drafted. Easier to standout at this level. Just look at how many NDSU linemen stay all 4 years, now there are 7 of them starting in the NFL making sustainable millions instead of a quick fix. NDSU is able to dominate all of these years because they somehow are able to keep all of their All-American Olinemen year in year out. Imagine our Oline right now if Omar and Connor Moore didn't transfer out. Those two guys were All Conference selections at Mediocre P4 schools this year. They got paid, but they lost their winning ways, and the ability to stand out from the pack.

Omar, despite getting a 1st team all Big12 selection this year, is only projected to go in the 7th round if he is lucky. If he had stayed and destroyed the completion at MSU for 4 years, he would likely have gotten invited to the Senior Bowl, which significantly increases his draft stock to rounds 2-5. Instead, he goes to Baylor, gets decorated with P4 honors, yet he has no Senior Bowl invites, and is overlooked by the NFL scouts to be seen as a possible round 7 or UDFA pickup.

I wonder if these dudes will ever regret their moves in the end. I know Infanse did! Scottre is looking the same way, he is getting washed out at New Mexico. "Instant" money is hard to turn down, but sometimes if your goal is making it to the NFL, your best option is to stick it out at a place you can win, and stand out consistently throughout your whole career. Andersen did it. Hardy did it. And NDSU/SDSU is a perfect example of that model. They keep their guys, they keep winning National Titles, their best dudes get drafted rounds 1-7 year in year out.

[WetBreeches]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

He has already turned down one offer north of a million...

[WetBreeches]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lucrative offer...was incredibly excited...hit post like a 19/20 year old would...and then realized...wow that was dumb. They don't need to "stick around to increase their stock". They just need to move along, ball out, and move along again. I said it before, I'll be surprised if we lose less than 3 DB's.

[wbtfg]

I think coaches and (hopefully) players learned a lesson last year on staying focused on the issue at hand and tuning out distractions. Vigen does a good job of keeping an open dialogue with players on this topic. It's not the ignored elephant in the room.....

[BelligerentBobcat]

Apparently Zimmer is getting a lot of attention from Big Ten schools. I heard rumors of numbers greater than $1M.

Wouldn’t be surprised. He’s very good.

I think similar to the DBs, he will do wonders with one more year at this level to increase his value. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he balls out next year, gets even better, and puts on even more weight, he'd be getting 1.5 to 2 million offers from actually good P4 schools instead of NW, Rutgers, Michigan State etc...

Zimmer has got NFL potential written all over him. If he miraculously does end up staying all 4 years, then he will be drafted. Easier to standout at this level. Just look at how many NDSU linemen stay all 4 years, now there are 7 of them starting in the NFL making sustainable millions instead of a quick fix. NDSU is able to dominate all of these years because they somehow are able to keep all of their All-American Olinemen year in year out. Imagine our Oline right now if Omar and Connor Moore didn't transfer out. Those two guys were All Conference selections at Mediocre P4 schools this year. They got paid, but they lost their winning ways, and the ability to stand out from the pack.

Omar, despite getting a 1st team all Big12 selection this year, is only projected to go in the 7th round if he is lucky. If he had stayed and destroyed the completion at MSU for 4 years, he would likely have gotten invited to the Senior Bowl, which significantly increases his draft stock to rounds 2-5. Instead, he goes to Baylor, gets decorated with P4 honors, yet he has no Senior Bowl invites, and is overlooked by the NFL scouts to be seen as a possible round 7 or UDFA pickup.

I wonder if these dudes will ever regret their moves in the end. I know Infanse did! Scottre is looking the same way, he is getting washed out at New Mexico. "Instant" money is hard to turn down, but sometimes if your goal is making it to the NFL, your best option is to stick it out at a place you can win, and stand out consistently throughout your whole career. Andersen did it. Hardy did it. And NDSU/SDSU is a perfect example of that model. They keep their guys, they keep winning National Titles, their best dudes get drafted rounds 1-7 year in year out.

I promise you Omar making the 1st team all big-12 means he got more eyes on him than if he had stayed at MSU. There's nothing to indicate he goes to the Senior Bowl if he stays at MSU.

[SparkCat]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lucrative offer...was incredibly excited...hit post like a 19/20 year old would...and then realized...wow that was dumb. They don't need to "stick around to increase their stock". They just need to move along, ball out, and move along again. I said it before, I'll be surprised if we lose less than 3 DB's.

Just seems the majority of transfers out dont ball out, especially at the skill positions. In fact if Scottre was transparent with the coaching staff of his intentions to transfer, he’d be a Cat this year, as some of the big $ ‘promises’ that lured him away did not happen and he ultimately settled for New Mexico.

I really don’t care in the end as if that’s the case we will just keep bringing in young talent who can play for a year or two and cash out, I just think they could cash out for more if they stuck around another year as they all are still young. Although, 10k - 20k + (I know it can be much higher, just basing on what I think our DB’s would likely get) is a lot for a college kid and can be life changing for some. I’m sure some athletes put some thought in it, and I’m sure others get pumped and feel flattered for the offer and jump in without much thought of, ‘what happens if this doesn’t work?’ Every portal year we are starting to see guys who played well in FCS transfers a few times and ultimately playing for a worse team in a worse conference, RJ Martinez is one that comes to mind. For every Cam Ward there is probably 500 Scottre’s and Ifanse’s.

[WetBreeches]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lucrative offer...was incredibly excited...hit post like a 19/20 year old would...and then realized...wow that was dumb. They don't need to "stick around to increase their stock". They just need to move along, ball out, and move along again. I said it before, I'll be surprised if we lose less than 3 DB's.

Just seems the majority of transfers out dont ball out, especially at the skill positions. In fact if Scottre was transparent with the coaching staff of his intentions to transfer, he’d be a Cat this year, as some of the big $ ‘promises’ that lured him away did not happen and he ultimately settled for New Mexico.

I really don’t care in the end as if that’s the case we will just keep bringing in young talent who can play for a year or two and cash out, I just think they could cash out for more if they stuck around another year as they all are still young. Although, 10k - 20k + (I know it can be much higher, just basing on what I think our DB’s would likely get) is a lot for a college kid and can be life changing for some. I’m sure some athletes put some thought in it, and I’m sure others get pumped and feel flattered for the offer and jump in without much thought of, ‘what happens if this doesn’t work?’ Every portal year we are starting to see guys who played well in FCS transfers a few times and ultimately playing for a worse team in a worse conference, RJ Martinez is one that comes to mind. For every Cam Ward there is probably 500 Scottre’s and Ifanse’s.

I agree with you...My point was more, if they do well at the next stop, there will probably be another stop...and maybe even another...Johnson, Powdrell and Polidore definitely held their own...going back 20 and 30 years a lot of MSU and UM players at 18 and 19 thought they were good enough for the NFL...I think even more have that inflated image because there is no shortage of voices telling them such.

[VimSince03]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lucrative offer...was incredibly excited...hit post like a 19/20 year old would...and then realized...wow that was dumb. They don't need to "stick around to increase their stock". They just need to move along, ball out, and move along again. I said it before, I'll be surprised if we lose less than 3 DB's.

Just seems the majority of transfers out dont ball out, especially at the skill positions. In fact if Scottre was transparent with the coaching staff of his intentions to transfer, he’d be a Cat this year, as some of the big $ ‘promises’ that lured him away did not happen and he ultimately settled for New Mexico.

I really don’t care in the end as if that’s the case we will just keep bringing in young talent who can play for a year or two and cash out, I just think they could cash out for more if they stuck around another year as they all are still young. Although, 10k - 20k + (I know it can be much higher, just basing on what I think our DB’s would likely get) is a lot for a college kid and can be life changing for some. I’m sure some athletes put some thought in it, and I’m sure others get pumped and feel flattered for the offer and jump in without much thought of, ‘what happens if this doesn’t work?’ Every portal year we are starting to see guys who played well in FCS transfers a few times and ultimately playing for a worse team in a worse conference, RJ Martinez is one that comes to mind. For every Cam Ward there is probably 500 Scottre’s and Ifanse’s.

All secondary players who transferred from us after last year played pretty well with their FBS teams. Even Stillwell had a good year for Southern Utah. With the way we've been recruiting the secondary, we'll be absolutely fine. There is a standard at that position now too.

[SparkCat]

Kids do dumb things. However, posting that to follow up with a portal announcement would be pretty dumb, that’s why I’ll be optimistic to think it’s something else. Also, given the age of these cornerbacks, they would be smart to stick around another year to increase their stock.

Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lucrative offer...was incredibly excited...hit post like a 19/20 year old would...and then realized...wow that was dumb. They don't need to "stick around to increase their stock". They just need to move along, ball out, and move along again. I said it before, I'll be surprised if we lose less than 3 DB's.

Just seems the majority of transfers out dont ball out, especially at the skill positions. In fact if Scottre was transparent with the coaching staff of his intentions to transfer, he’d be a Cat this year, as some of the big $ ‘promises’ that lured him away did not happen and he ultimately settled for New Mexico.

I really don’t care in the end as if that’s the case we will just keep bringing in young talent who can play for a year or two and cash out, I just think they could cash out for more if they stuck around another year as they all are still young. Although, 10k - 20k + (I know it can be much higher, just basing on what I think our DB’s would likely get) is a lot for a college kid and can be life changing for some. I’m sure some athletes put some thought in it, and I’m sure others get pumped and feel flattered for the offer and jump in without much thought of, ‘what happens if this doesn’t work?’ Every portal year we are starting to see guys who played well in FCS transfers a few times and ultimately playing for a worse team in a worse conference, RJ Martinez is one that comes to mind. For every Cam Ward there is probably 500 Scottre’s and Ifanse’s.

I agree with you...My point was more, if they do well at the next stop, there will probably be another stop...and maybe even another...Johnson, Powdrell and Polidore definitely held their own...going back 20 and 30 years a lot of MSU and UM players at 18 and 19 thought they were good enough for the NFL...I think even more have that inflated image because there is no shortage of voices telling them such.

100%. I hope all that enter the portal do great, unless, we play the team they transfer too. I just hope some also have a voice cautioning them about the cons of the decision they are considering too.