Cancelled Pre Sale and General Sale

[wbtfg]

Does anyone know what the assigned student sections are for this game? Usually it’s the whole 3 middle sections of the end zone, but for last year’s semifinal it was a much smaller section as they sold assigned seats for a lot of those areas.

I would imagine they get their full allotment.

[RKMCMT]

Does anyone know what the assigned student sections are for this game? Usually it’s the whole 3 middle sections of the end zone, but for last year’s semifinal it was a much smaller section as they sold assigned seats for a lot of those areas.

I would imagine they get their full allotment.

I'm reasonably sure the sections will be significantly cut down from regular season levels. They were somewhat last week as well

[tetoncat]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

[tetoncat]

This is so laughable.

"I dont go to many games(when there's SRO alot to the majority of games...) but I find it unfair I can't get tickets when I want them because this is the biggest sporting event in the state since 1923 but I didnt go to the precious two playoff games"

If you did go to the playoff games, of which there was space available, then I sympathize with you. But if you havent gone to but a game or two in the last 5 years then you have no excuse. There are ALWAYS playoff tickets available.

LIKE

What about a group of five who have been to every playoff game since 2010 or every regular season home game during that time span where there was even a slight chance of a competitive game? None of us are season ticket holders and I don't think any of us could afford to be if there even were any spots available. But we have been to damn near every single important game in that stadium the last 15 years screaming our hearts out and we don't even get a shot to buy tickets at face vaule? So now our only shot at attending the biggest game in the stadiums history is lucking into knowing someone who has five extra tickets that aren't already going to close friends/family or being scalped? I don't know how else they could of done it I'm not that smart, but I know this doesn't feel good for a lot of Cat fans tonight.

Why couldn't you afford season tickets? Is it the FACT that you would have to make a small donation to support scholarships? Go cry in your beer somewhere else.

Wow let's bash other fans. Getting egrizzy here.

[tetoncat]

This is so laughable.

"I dont go to many games(when there's SRO alot to the majority of games...) but I find it unfair I can't get tickets when I want them because this is the biggest sporting event in the state since 1923 but I didnt go to the precious two playoff games"

If you did go to the playoff games, of which there was space available, then I sympathize with you. But if you havent gone to but a game or two in the last 5 years then you have no excuse. There are ALWAYS playoff tickets available.

LIKE

What about a group of five who have been to every playoff game since 2010 or every regular season home game during that time span where there was even a slight chance of a competitive game? None of us are season ticket holders and I don't think any of us could afford to be if there even were any spots available. But we have been to damn near every single important game in that stadium the last 15 years screaming our hearts out and we don't even get a shot to buy tickets at face vaule? So now our only shot at attending the biggest game in the stadiums history is lucking into knowing someone who has five extra tickets that aren't already going to close friends/family or being scalped? I don't know how else they could of done it I'm not that smart, but I know this doesn't feel good for a lot of Cat fans tonight.

Dude if this is the case you've been coming since the new end zone was built. When it opened season tickets were $62. There were a bunch of griz fans with tickets those first couple years because it meant they paid $62 for just cat/griz and sold the rest of the tickets. Or gave them a way. Had you done that you could all 5 go in in a Bobcat club membership and had 5 season tickets together for a couple hundred a piece. I think its $38 per game plus split the $100 per person for the bobcat club membership in to your per game cost.

Exactly. I've had season tickets since 2014 in the endzone. They are a still very affordable and easy to sell if you can't, or don't want to, go to a particular game and make some money back.

The fact of the matter is the program has become popular enough that this is now feasible. Especially if you're willing to cash out your Cat Griz tickets. Many NFL teams markets are similar. For some teams, season ticket holders can attend a few games they want, sell the rest at markup and still make a profit.

Problem being then there becomes no limit to how many they would buy if given the opportunity. The teams know that's ultimately bad for the fanbase so they tightly restrict how many you're allowed to buy. Nobody should have anything resembling 30 tickets to this game handed to them by the box office. Not while so many others can't get one.

Scarcity like this should require some rethinking of the rules.

You should get close to 30 tickets to this game if you buy around 20 tickets for ALL the other games! Who do you know that is getting 30 tickets? If you know someone then they must be people that have a lot of season tickets already.

I have 18 season tickets for every game. I have the opportunity to buy 4 more for every game. Usually this will just be the big games like Gold Rush, Cat/griz etc. But every single game I can BUY 22 tickets. With this game I got to request 8 extra tickets instead of 4. I got my email today and I got those 8 tickets, all over the stadium. So I have 26 tickets for this game. All of them spoken for and I still have to tell some friends I can't help them.

You really don't think I should get 26 tickets when I pay for 18-22 of them every game of the season?!

I wouldn't advocate for reducing existing holders' tickets because this is the bed they made. But when renewal season comes up, nobody should be allowed to expand their holdings to more than 8 or 10.

We're at that point.

Bed they made? In a perfect world they'd want every single seat sold as a season ticket. It's not like they were doing me favors. The season tickets were available, and I bought them. I slowly increased them through my business at the time. It's not like people were knocking down doors to buy season tickets and they couldn't because my big bully self bought them all. They sold season tickets before this season. They'll sell more before next season. Why would they ever consider not selling them to someone just because they already have some. Until they get to the point where no season tickets are available; this just wouldn't make sense.

I say if they are available, I don't care if a person has 40 season tickets if they are used every game. My 18-22 tickets are used for every single game and have been for over a decade. MSU would be moronic if I wanted 4 more season tickets that ARE available and they said no because I already have a bunch.

Do you get a chance to add more before general public gets a chance to get their first one or season tickets. That is what it feels like when they offer but maybe that isn't correct.

[BOBCATBORN]

One thing to consider - this may not have been the “best” way to spread tickets but the ticket office had a problem and the solution was to severely limit the opportunities by non-bobcat fans to get tickets. They solved the problem. I said this in another thread but there isn’t much for resale out there (around 80 listings as of this morning and it doesn’t look like anything is actually selling outside of a few). My guess is that some of the “extra” tickets are out there but I guarantee regular season ticket holders who didn’t get extras are also selling there’s (why not profit big). I would also say that it’s likely a lot of these high priority members have enough money that they aren’t scalping tickets. With all that said I think the ticket office solved their problem as it seems very unlikely that non-bobcat fans are getting tickets.

[onceacat]

One thing to consider - this may not have been the “best” way to spread tickets but the ticket office had a problem and the solution was to severely limit the opportunities by non-bobcat fans to get tickets. They solved the problem. I said this in another thread but there isn’t much for resale out there (around 80 listings as of this morning and it doesn’t look like anything is actually selling outside of a few). My guess is that some of the “extra” tickets are out there but I guarantee regular season ticket holders who didn’t get extras are also selling there’s (why not profit big). I would also say that it’s likely a lot of these high priority members have enough money that they aren’t scalping tickets. With all that said I think the ticket office solved their problem as it seems very unlikely that non-bobcat fans are getting tickets.

Seat Geek is saying 45 tickets available. Even if 75% go to Panda fans, it's not a lot.

As someone who couldn't get tickets, I agree. They handled it fine. Probably not perfectly, but reasonably enough. How on earth is the ticket office supposed to know who is a good enough fan to deserve tickets....other than by season ticket holders and priority points.

If you go to all the games but no season tix and you still couldn't get tickets for Saturday, I get that its disappointing.

But the way MSU went about it is far from unreasonable.

Head to one of the many bars that will have this on TV & enjoy with the rest of us who couldn't get tickets.

[wbtfg]

One thing to consider - this may not have been the “best” way to spread tickets but the ticket office had a problem and the solution was to severely limit the opportunities by non-bobcat fans to get tickets. They solved the problem. I said this in another thread but there isn’t much for resale out there (around 80 listings as of this morning and it doesn’t look like anything is actually selling outside of a few). My guess is that some of the “extra” tickets are out there but I guarantee regular season ticket holders who didn’t get extras are also selling there’s (why not profit big). I would also say that it’s likely a lot of these high priority members have enough money that they aren’t scalping tickets. With all that said I think the ticket office solved their problem as it seems very unlikely that non-bobcat fans are getting tickets.

There was never going to be a best way to do it. This is the highest demand ticket in the history of Montana. This is like Pearl Jam playing the Cat's Paw. There's no way to accommodate everyone who wants to go.

[BobcatDel]

One thing to consider - this may not have been the “best” way to spread tickets but the ticket office had a problem and the solution was to severely limit the opportunities by non-bobcat fans to get tickets. They solved the problem. I said this in another thread but there isn’t much for resale out there (around 80 listings as of this morning and it doesn’t look like anything is actually selling outside of a few). My guess is that some of the “extra” tickets are out there but I guarantee regular season ticket holders who didn’t get extras are also selling there’s (why not profit big). I would also say that it’s likely a lot of these high priority members have enough money that they aren’t scalping tickets. With all that said I think the ticket office solved their problem as it seems very unlikely that non-bobcat fans are getting tickets.

There was never going to be a best way to do it. This is the highest demand ticket in the history of Montana. This is like Pearl Jam playing the Cat's Paw. There's no way to accommodate everyone who wants to go.

Could have moved venue to Bronco stadium in Denver!! Just kidding.

[CelticCat]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

No, the apples to apples comparison would be Alaska Airlines giving out extra companion fare tickets to their frequent flyers therefore reducing the number of available seats to non-frequent flyers. In fact in this case Alaska booked the entire flight to only frequent flyers and their companion fares.

Why would that be a problem?

We just have a fundamentally different view of the world it would seem. I would like to see the little guy get a chance at less than 1% of the remaining available tickets to the game (I heard it was something like 4k, doesn't matter the exact number), to seats on the airplane. There should absolutely be priority for those who have invested into the program. And yes I realize no matter what happened the game was going to sell out and thousands of Bobcat fans weren't going to be able to get tickets. I also understand this.

[JDoub]

My sister told me her tix (season tix extras) she was told she has have been REVOKED this morning. wow

her son booked airfare from Dallas to be there

Someone needs to set up a big watch party - tailgate area / track infield / KSAC for those who want to hear the crowd & get loud

[ilovethecats]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

No, the apples to apples comparison would be Alaska Airlines giving out extra companion fare tickets to their frequent flyers therefore reducing the number of available seats to non-frequent flyers. In fact in this case Alaska booked the entire flight to only frequent flyers and their companion fares.

Why would that be a problem?

We just have a fundamentally different view of the world it would seem. I would like to see the little guy get a chance at less than 1% of the remaining available tickets to the game (I heard it was something like 4k, doesn't matter the exact number), to seats on the airplane. There should absolutely be priority for those who have invested into the program. And yes I realize no matter what happened the game was going to sell out and thousands of Bobcat fans weren't going to be able to get tickets. I also understand this.

Where we disagree is your view that the “little guy” didn’t get tickets. I think people have this impression of just a bunch of millionaires sitting in their mansions in big sky hoarding all these tickets and only giving them to other rich elitists! The “big guys” if you will.

I know my experience and that of a bunch of close friends who also got extras and that is the exact OPPOSITE of what was done. I gave all of mine away. Several to people who haven’t been to a game this year. All of the people I know are GIVING their extras to other Cat fans. Some are only asking face value back.

I wouldn’t call these fans the little guys but because you did I’ll say that there are going to be a LOT of the “little guys” going to this game for face value or free. I think people don’t really know the generosity of our biggest supporters.

[CelticCat]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

No, the apples to apples comparison would be Alaska Airlines giving out extra companion fare tickets to their frequent flyers therefore reducing the number of available seats to non-frequent flyers. In fact in this case Alaska booked the entire flight to only frequent flyers and their companion fares.

Why would that be a problem?

We just have a fundamentally different view of the world it would seem. I would like to see the little guy get a chance at less than 1% of the remaining available tickets to the game (I heard it was something like 4k, doesn't matter the exact number), to seats on the airplane. There should absolutely be priority for those who have invested into the program. And yes I realize no matter what happened the game was going to sell out and thousands of Bobcat fans weren't going to be able to get tickets. I also understand this.

Where we disagree is your view that the “little guy” didn’t get tickets. I think people have this impression of just a bunch of millionaires sitting in their mansions in big sky hoarding all these tickets and only giving them to other rich elitists! The “big guys” if you will.

I know my experience and that of a bunch of close friends who also got extras and that is the exact OPPOSITE of what was done. I gave all of mine away. Several to people who haven’t been to a game this year. All of the people I know are GIVING their extras to other Cat fans. Some are only asking face value back.

I wouldn’t call these fans the little guys but because you did I’ll say that there are going to be a LOT of the “little guys” going to this game for face value or free. I think people don’t really know the generosity of our biggest supporters.

Maybe little guy is the wrong term, but fans who can't afford to all the games, or don't have time to go to all the games, maybe they live out of state, and maybe also don't know anyone to give them a ticket or sell them one. I'm not saying all season ticket holders are rich but it just feels exclusive to not give non-season ticket holders a chance to buy a ticket. Sports fandom is meant to be inclusive to me.

Anyways, it's moot at this point and I won't waste any more energy on it. I am happy the stadium is sold out to Bobcat fans, let's make the place as rowdy as possible!

[ilovethecats]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

No, the apples to apples comparison would be Alaska Airlines giving out extra companion fare tickets to their frequent flyers therefore reducing the number of available seats to non-frequent flyers. In fact in this case Alaska booked the entire flight to only frequent flyers and their companion fares.

Why would that be a problem?

We just have a fundamentally different view of the world it would seem. I would like to see the little guy get a chance at less than 1% of the remaining available tickets to the game (I heard it was something like 4k, doesn't matter the exact number), to seats on the airplane. There should absolutely be priority for those who have invested into the program. And yes I realize no matter what happened the game was going to sell out and thousands of Bobcat fans weren't going to be able to get tickets. I also understand this.

Where we disagree is your view that the “little guy” didn’t get tickets. I think people have this impression of just a bunch of millionaires sitting in their mansions in big sky hoarding all these tickets and only giving them to other rich elitists! The “big guys” if you will.

I know my experience and that of a bunch of close friends who also got extras and that is the exact OPPOSITE of what was done. I gave all of mine away. Several to people who haven’t been to a game this year. All of the people I know are GIVING their extras to other Cat fans. Some are only asking face value back.

I wouldn’t call these fans the little guys but because you did I’ll say that there are going to be a LOT of the “little guys” going to this game for face value or free. I think people don’t really know the generosity of our biggest supporters.

Maybe little guy is the wrong term, but fans who can't afford to all the games, or don't have time to go to all the games, maybe they live out of state, and maybe also don't know anyone to give them a ticket or sell them one. I'm not saying all season ticket holders are rich but it just feels exclusive to not give non-season ticket holders a chance to buy a ticket. Sports fandom is meant to be inclusive to me.

Anyways, it's moot at this point and I won't waste any more energy on it. I am happy the stadium is sold out to Bobcat fans, let's make the place as rowdy as possible!

Ya I’ve wasted too much time on this topic this week as well! I totally get your point. I just think msu for this one game, chose making it a point to be all Cat fans in attendance over making it a point that everyone had an equal shot at tickets. They obviously don’t do that for any other game. They wanted this most important game to be 99% Cat fans; and came up with the best way of keeping tickets out of random griz fans hands. Some Cats got left out in the process which I agree sucks. But I understand why they did what they did.

[catatac]

Sorry if this is a dupe, computer flaked out. I too have spent too much time on this topic this week, but wanted to just add this.

I agree with others that have posted there was not a perfect way to do it. So, I think all things considered they did an OK job with how this was managed. However, I do think they need to change one part with this process, and I will probably send an email about it because there is a decent possibility we are going to go through the same exact thing next year.

As a season ticket holder, when I first got the email chance to reserve extra tickets for the playoffs, I put in a request to get just two extra tickets for all playoff games. I did not get the two extra for this game because I wasn't up high enough on the priority list. What sort of ticks me off a little is that I'm sure there are a bunch of people that waited last minute (Yes, I understand they are higher than me on the priority list, donate more money, etc, I get all that), then called in or stood in line Monday, AFTER we and UM won our quarterfinal games... and got their tickets ahead of me. The other example I brought up in another thread that really highlights how unfair this can be, is if I happened to have 8 season tickets (I don't, I only have two) and put in for just one extra ticket, didn't get it, whereas e a season ticket holder that just has one season ticket put in for eight extra tickets, and he gets all eight because we just happened to fall on the cut line and he donated $1 more to MSU than I.

So, IMO what they should do is send out that email, and any season ticket holder that gives their credit card and pre requests extra tickets immediately, I think it would be fair to reward them at least ONE extra ticket for each season ticket they own. Or, if this is too rewarding for the early birds, especially if they might have 20 or 30 season tickets, then fine, cap it at 2 or 4 or whatever... but I really think they should be allowed 1 or 2 tickets at the least. Then you proceed with how you did it and reward all the remaining based on priority points.

The only other way I can think of, that would probably be a pain in the ass, is to do more of a weighted reward system. So if I have 250 priority points and requested 4 extra tickets, the other guy has 1,000 priority points and requested 4 extras, he gets 3 and I get 1.

[AFCAT]

My sister told me her tix (season tix extras) she was told she has have been REVOKED this morning. wow

her son booked airfare from Dallas to be there

Someone needs to set up a big watch party - tailgate area / track infield / KSAC for those who want to hear the crowd & get loud

There are numerous tailgates with TVs set up in the parking lots. I've walked through before halftime and seen folks watching the games there. They don't even go inside the stadium. They just watch the game on TV from the parking lots. I've even see fans watch the scoreboard video feed from outside the stadium. They have chairs set up there.

[onceacat]

Sorry if this is a dupe, computer flaked out. I too have spent too much time on this topic this week, but wanted to just add this.

I agree with others that have posted there was not a perfect way to do it. So, I think all things considered they did an OK job with how this was managed. However, I do think they need to change one part with this process, and I will probably send an email about it because there is a decent possibility we are going to go through the same exact thing next year.

As a season ticket holder, when I first got the email chance to reserve extra tickets for the playoffs, I put in a request to get just two extra tickets for all playoff games. I did not get the two extra for this game because I wasn't up high enough on the priority list. What sort of ticks me off a little is that I'm sure there are a bunch of people that waited last minute (Yes, I understand they are higher than me on the priority list, donate more money, etc, I get all that), then called in or stood in line Monday, AFTER we and UM won our quarterfinal games... and got their tickets ahead of me. The other example I brought up in another thread that really highlights how unfair this can be, is if I happened to have 8 season tickets (I don't, I only have two) and put in for just one extra ticket, didn't get it, whereas e a season ticket holder that just has one season ticket put in for eight extra tickets, and he gets all eight because we just happened to fall on the cut line and he donated $1 more to MSU than I.

So, IMO what they should do is send out that email, and any season ticket holder that gives their credit card and pre requests extra tickets immediately, I think it would be fair to reward them at least ONE extra ticket for each season ticket they own. Or, if this is too rewarding for the early birds, especially if they might have 20 or 30 season tickets, then fine, cap it at 2 or 4 or whatever... but I really think they should be allowed 1 or 2 tickets at the least. Then you proceed with how you did it and reward all the remaining based on priority points.

The only other way I can think of, that would probably be a pain in the ass, is to do more of a weighted reward system. So if I have 250 priority points and requested 4 extra tickets, the other guy has 1,000 priority points and requested 4 extras, he gets 3 and I get 1.

This seems pretty reasonable. If you requested 2 additional seats for ALL the playoff games, it certainly seems like filling those requests prior to 8 tickets for a high priority member would be reasonable.

The other option would be complicated mathematically, but I think pretty easy using current computing....low priority points fans can only get 2 extras, but they fill all those orders first, THEN let high priority points ticket holders get additional up to 8.

But a lot of people would still be left out.

[kwcat]

My sister told me her tix (season tix extras) she was told she has have been REVOKED this morning. wow

her son booked airfare from Dallas to be there

Someone needs to set up a big watch party - tailgate area / track infield / KSAC for those who want to hear the crowd & get loud

There are numerous tailgates with TVs set up in the parking lots. I've walked through before halftime and seen folks watching the games there. They don't even go inside the stadium. They just watch the game on TV from the parking lots. I've even see fans watch the scoreboard video feed from outside the stadium. They have chairs set up there.

If I did not have a ticket, I would probably show up anyway and do just this. I would encourage some of you to maybe lobby the school or the alumni association and maybe get a big screen set up in the indoor practice facility that would be a blast.

[catatac]

My sister told me her tix (season tix extras) she was told she has have been REVOKED this morning. wow

her son booked airfare from Dallas to be there

Someone needs to set up a big watch party - tailgate area / track infield / KSAC for those who want to hear the crowd & get loud

Not calling you\her out here but is she sure they were actually revoked, i.e. they charged her card, made the tickets available in here account, allowed to transfer to Wallet, etc. Reason I'm asking is because I know people that were under the impression that when they got the email confirmation or the ticket orders, they thought it was a done deal, whereas is was just a done deal that they were in the priority points queue. If they really did get revoked I would be super ticked off.

[Cataholic]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.