They have to blitz. Their D-Line sucks!MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I don’t think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
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Julius is better in heavy traffic and contact whereas Adam needs a little bit of a downhill start in with a single cut can break it open. But he needs that start typicallycats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:44 amAdam has a really good cut, along with a good acceleration. The major factor to me with Adam is what he does when someone else has the ball.
I love Julius, guy is powerful and has speed, no quit in him. I think they are as good a combo as any I have seen in a Bobcat uniform.
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Players and especially coaches don't pay that much attention to the points scored. They're mostly just watching film. They use the stats to direct them on where to look while watching film (such as Wortham's numbers from UM's last game), but they'd uncover that anyway.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:45 pmExactly!!!VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:34 pmWe literally already did exploit. Do MSU fans know we played a game against these guys a few weeks back? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with some of the talk I see on this board. I'm going to keep saying it...we match up well with them and feeding into the narratives they create is exactly what they want.Bobcat Sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:13 pmThey can. Lamson needs to play like he did in Cat-gris 1.0 and be decisive with the ball. Keep those hurries to a minimum and get the ball out quickly. Head on a swivel and all that…catzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:06 amWhat makes you think Lamson and Co can’t exploit that?MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I don’t think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
Hauck may have scared some fans with his running up the score on inferior teams but he sure as hell didn’t phase our TEAM with those actions. This is still the same team we beat a few weeks ago in their Mecca and we still get them here where they haven’t won forever
As a fan, if you're going to gauge how good a team is by the numbers they put up, then -- once again -- yards per play is the best way to do that. It won't tell you who's going to win but it does indicate how well you're performing. Scoring and yards per game can be more easily misleading due to games being blowouts late, which doesn't affect ypp as much as it can scoring and ypg. It's easier to adjust the ypp by taking out kneel downs at the ends of games to get an even more representative number. It's a bit of a job to try to determine when a game is over and then begin subtracting out numbers to get something more representative of how the game went when the outcome was still hanging in the balance. YPP isn't perfect. It doesn't factor in penalties and returns but does give the best idea of just how well an offense and defense are performing.
I don't know for sure who's playoff opponents are better, but MSU is +1.26 per play to UM's +0.69, including kneel downs and everything. MSU is only allowing 4.73 yards per play, which is right at where MSU has been on the season (4.8'). UM is allowing 6.26 per play, which is above it's been on the year (5.8'). Offensively, MSU is down quite a bit due to the Yale game when it was under 5.0 per play before bouncing back to be 7.0 vs SFA.
The Griz played the 11 and 14 seeds, MSU played unseeded (assume 18 based on they played 15?) and 7. I think SDSU was higher than 14. Again, it's hard to say who played a tougher playoff schedule.
Despite the sluggish offense vs Yale, the MSU defense is still performing as it has all year. The offense reverted back to the norm vs SFA.
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I'm wondering if he did.catzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:57 pmI 100 percent agree! I’m just struck why @MountainCat thinks we won’t exploited that. We have and we will.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:34 pmWe literally already did exploit. Do MSU fans know we played a game against these guys a few weeks back? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with some of the talk I see on this board. I'm going to keep saying it...we match up well with them and feeding into the narratives they create is exactly what they want.Bobcat Sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:13 pmThey can. Lamson needs to play like he did in Cat-gris 1.0 and be decisive with the ball. Keep those hurries to a minimum and get the ball out quickly. Head on a swivel and all that…catzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:06 amWhat makes you think Lamson and Co can’t exploit that?MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I don’t think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
Notice he removed the "don't" in a quote of himself right after his first post. Maybe he just hasn't been able to get on here to clarify.MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amMountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
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He responded to me back a page saying it was a typo. Saying he thought Woods and Steel could punish the Griz secondary if they vacate those spots too often.nevadacat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:29 pmI'm wondering if he did.catzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:57 pmI 100 percent agree! I’m just struck why @MountainCat thinks we won’t exploited that. We have and we will.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:34 pmWe literally already did exploit. Do MSU fans know we played a game against these guys a few weeks back? Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with some of the talk I see on this board. I'm going to keep saying it...we match up well with them and feeding into the narratives they create is exactly what they want.Bobcat Sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:13 pmThey can. Lamson needs to play like he did in Cat-gris 1.0 and be decisive with the ball. Keep those hurries to a minimum and get the ball out quickly. Head on a swivel and all that…catzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:06 amWhat makes you think Lamson and Co can’t exploit that?MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I don’t think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
Notice he removed the "don't" in a quote of himself right after his first post. Maybe he just hasn't been able to get on here to clarify.MountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amMountainCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:35 amI agree. The Griz will Blitz early and often which means voids on the field, I think Lamson & Co will exploit that.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:44 amI think an underrated edge we have against montana is using Adam as a receiver out of the backfield. Pretty hard to both blitz and cover the back, and he has receiver skills coming from back there. I'd look for that early and often.
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Davis and Jones remind me of Sonic (Gibbs) and Knuckles (D-Mo) of the Lions. Finesse and a bruiser for backs
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Exactly what I thought recently as well!WeedKillinCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 16, 2025 4:21 pmDavis and Jones remind me of Sonic (Gibbs) and Knuckles (D-Mo) of the Lions. Finesse and a bruiser for backs
Jones reminds me a lot of a McCaffrey or Gibbs type back, elite at receiving out of the backfield, shifty enough to make dudes miss in the open field, and has just enough speed to house one. He's got some power to his game as well however. I think his strength has improved this year, but maybe his speed took a slight hit due to his surgery in the off season. Even if he got a bit slower, he still has wheels and I can see him getting faster as the season has gone on, especially this past month!
Davis is more of the bruiser like a Montgomery, great vision, patience, balance, and bounces off of most first contacts. I think Davis has some twitch to him though. Hes got hops for sure, and can make a man miss in open field if he wants to. He's just not quite as fast as Jones.
The two of them are kind of the best of both worlds that can do almost anything you ask of them out on the field. We are lucky to have both of them for sure! Jones just needs 80 or so more yards, then both backs will be over 1,000 yards on the season. I think Jones gets that on Saturday!
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Davis has great patience, waits for the line to open a hole and then picks his way through. Jones, early in the season was too fast often hitting a hole before it had been opened by the O line. He's been getting better all season long. (Or the O line has been quicker to give him something to run through).
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Thank you coach hauck from the bottom of our hearts for passing on Adam Jones.
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heard PlayerRep may have had a small part in it, too.
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Adam's rushing stats in 2 years vs the grizzLLies.
50 attempts
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I think this is accurate. Davis is less likely to get hit at the LOS by the first guy because of his twitch and Jones is at times predictable at the LOS and does get plugged. However, they compliment each other so well and both of their strengths shine as the O Line starts to lean on the D Line. Jones is great catching and running fast, while Davis has such great vision he sees lanes better and can make quick cuts to get to them. A wonderful tandem for sure.catscat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:55 amDavis has great patience, waits for the line to open a hole and then picks his way through. Jones, early in the season was too fast often hitting a hole before it had been opened by the O line. He's been getting better all season long. (Or the O line has been quicker to give him something to run through).
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FCS version of Sony Michel and Nick Chubb during their time at Georgia. Chubb absolutely hammered guys while Sony was just a burner and really good out of the backfield. Their running styles are incredibly complimentary. They’d both be the #1 back on almost every FCS team and multiple G6 teams. We’re lucky to have both. Never know which one will get the “start” which is about as good as it gets.
I for one absolutely love the emotional drive Davis has regardless of scandal or penalties lol. Off the field he’s an unbelievable human being.
I for one absolutely love the emotional drive Davis has regardless of scandal or penalties lol. Off the field he’s an unbelievable human being.
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