Cat-Griz 2.0

[BlueAndGoldNation]

I think Hauck will coach desperate and throw in some trick plays and new wrinkles. Cats should be ready.

It’s the semifinals. On the road in the most hostile environment not named WaGris. With a trip to the Natty on the line. I’d expect any coach to pull out all the stops and do whatever it takes.

I expect a whole lot of snap simulations and smack talking Davis at the bottom of the pile trying to get him to do something stupid. They are going to try every thing under the sun. Alot of exotic plays are definitely on the table. Sometimes, doing that will really hurt you instead of just trying to play the style of play that got you here in the first place. I hope they try to get too cute. It will be the death of them!

They may have success running their statue of liberty against our 2s, late in the 4th quarter:D

I can totally see Wortham trying that lateral screen throw across the field bulls*** they did against USD, and Dolwer reading it for another easy pick 6... Those guys get too cute and it will certainly bite them in the butt.

Only way for them to beat us in our house is to limit MSU's possessions, limit their own mistakes, and control the line of scrimmage. I don't think it will be possible for the Griz to do all of those things because Bobby is so desperate for a win, he will do way too much and overprepair, over coach for this game. The more he builds this game up to be bigger than it is, the more pressure is on his guys to do too much. Vigen will treat this like just another game. 1-0 mentality has worked like a charm since his arrival. Hauck seems to crap the bed in huge games...

[onceacat]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

[catscat]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

I don’t think it works that way because then we’d have to say it’s 74-44 and the Cats have a lot of games to win to catch up. I agree with BlueAndGoldNation (above). If we can’t say the winner of the next game is the better team, why even play the game?

So you're going to count when they weren't even in the same division? I see what kind of a gris fan you are. The Gris should be way ahead in the rivalry if you are counting those games - its also probably why the gris continue to schedule a yearly D-2 game, gotta keep those win stats up.

You missed the point. I’m the guy who DOESN’T want to look backward more than one game. Then you agree with me that the winner of Saturday’s game is the better team?

No I don't. Or else why use the terminology "upset". It completely defeats the point. The best team DOESN'T always win. You think that when
Maryland got upset by the Baltimore County (UMBC) Retrievers that the Retrievers were the better team? No, they weren't, but they showed up that day and took down Maryland. That's the beauty of sports. What I will say is that right now the Cats are the better team (and are favored as such), but if the gris win, then good on them but its considered an upset. It's not a slight, just what it is.

So you are one of those guys who leaves room to say “we’re the better team but we just didn’t play like I had hoped we would today.” May you be well. I got nothing left to say to that.

I see you have the Booby Hack speech down perfectly.

[rfischer94]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

[84CatGrad]

Frizz are 13-1. 9-1 at home, 4-0 on the road. Their road games were at Sac St, at Idaho State, at Weber State, at Portland state. Those teams were 18-30, 9-12 at home on the year. Not only have they played absolutely nobody on the road in a hostile environment, they have only had to go on four road trips ALL YEAR. My hope is their ridiculous EIGHT HOME GAME schedule comes back to bite them on Saturday.

[catscat]

Our interior O Line better figure it out, I'll say that.

But this will be a battle and a very stressful game. I trust Vigen to make the right adjustments and our playmakers to make the plays they've made all season.

Have they been playing bad? News to me.

Not sure I'm watching the same games as you then. The inside run game has been lackluster.

SFA expended lots of assets and efforts to stop the run. The more they tried to stop the run (which they did for awhile) the more vulnerable they are in pass defense. Too lazy to look, but I would venture the Cat's offensive production was about average - just skewed to the pass.

[nanacat]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Frizz are 13-1. 9-1 at home, 4-0 on the road. Their road games were at Sac St, at Idaho State, at Weber State, at Portland state. Those teams were 18-30, 9-12 at home on the year. Not only have they played absolutely nobody on the road in a hostile environment, they have only had to go on four road trips ALL YEAR. My hope is their ridiculous EIGHT HOME GAME schedule comes back to bite them on Saturday.

Preach Brother!!!

[jgrilley406]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

They can have that overall record…I’ll take the overall playoff record against them 1-0.

[rfischer94]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

[nanacat]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Yes!! It's really crazy how much they live in the past.

[Augustus]

The inside run game has been lackluster.

At best.

EIther Yale and SFA have really good D-lines, or something ain't right with our inside run game.

SFA was the #4 defense in the nation entering the game.

It was lackluster vs UM? That last drive had at least four good inside runs. Second and third plays, then 4th and 1 (all Davis) then third and 5 by Lamson. Not sure about the rest of the game.

I'm talking about the past two games. They've left a lot to be desired. The team has seemed (to me) to be disorganized and undisciplined of late. Granted, that's just me, and I haven't played football since 6th grade flag at Russell School in Kalispell. But, I do know a thing or two about teamwork and discipline, and it is lacking during these playoffs with the Cats.

Is Vigen's future the reason? Is it Davis? Is it something else? Or...is it my imagination (I don't think so)? Something is off during these playoffs, and it needs to be addressed and corrected if we can hope to win the championship this year...our best chance in the past 41 years. I hope to God that these kids and these coaches don't f**k this up.

[OldGriz]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Yes!! It's really crazy how much they live in the past.

2001 compared to 1984. LOL

[OldGriz]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Dave Arnold is 81 years old. LOL. The Griz have been to more National Championships after 2001 than the Cats have.

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Dave Arnold is 81 years old. LOL. The Griz have been to more National Championships after 2001 than the Cats have.

And how has that gone for you guys? 0-4, with 3 of those losses coming before the NDSU dynasty... I wouldn't be flexing the 2000's here. I think recent success is more important when talking about the upcoming Super Brawl! In the past 5 years, Cats have 2 NC appearances, Griz have 1... This year will be telling to see if the Griz can catch up with our recent success. Until then, we don't wanna hear about the dominant NC losers of the 2000's after 2001.

A lot riding on this year for the Cats, as they are dangerously close to becoming the dominant NC losers of the 2020's... If NDSU didn't exist, I believe the Cats would have multiple Championships. I just believe this year, it is MSU's destiny to get one. Been so close for years, and it's never been so wide open for the taking. Vigen and company know this, and are hungry for it. Gonna be tough for the Griz to come in to Bozeman and pry that opportunity away from a team and coach who has felt the pain and hunger of losing a close NC game last year where they came out flat. They take nothing for granted, and seem to have cleaned up the occasional slow starts in big games. They have proved that this year in Missoula. I fully believe they prove it again in Bozeman! Anything can happen, but I just don't see anything other than a new banner being hung in the rafters for the Cats!

[HookedOnGriz]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

It allows both corners to play man and get out of zone (where they seemed to be getting eaten up most the season) which helps tremendously on the back end with coverage….but more importantly allows them to get another guy or two in the box to stop the run game. It has also helped their blitzes get home or create more pressure (as the QB isn’t finding wide open receivers). Loud being out was a huge loss for the defense. Tim Hauck said in fall camp he’s the most important piece of the defense. They look quite a bit different with him being back. Tolbert seems to be back and more healthy too which is also an important piece. Gonna be tough to beat the cats at your home but I’m expecting an epic battle.

[nevadacat]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Dave Arnold is 81 years old. LOL. The Griz have been to more National Championships after 2001 than the Cats have.

Joe Glenn is 76, Don Read would have been 92 tomorrow, and Bobbi is 12. What’s your point?

[rfischer94]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

It allows both corners to play man and get out of zone (where they seemed to be getting eaten up most the season) which helps tremendously on the back end with coverage….but more importantly allows them to get another guy or two in the box to stop the run game. It has also helped their blitzes get home or create more pressure (as the QB isn’t finding wide open receivers). Loud being out was a huge loss for the defense. Tim Hauck said in fall camp he’s the most important piece of the defense. They look quite a bit different with him being back. Tolbert seems to be back and more healthy too which is also an important piece. Gonna be tough to beat the cats at your home but I’m expecting an epic battle.

That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Its going to be epic for sure. I hope everyone comes out of the game healthy.

[OldGriz]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Dave Arnold is 81 years old. LOL. The Griz have been to more National Championships after 2001 than the Cats have.

Joe Glenn is 76, Don Read would have been 92 tomorrow, and Bobbi is 12. What’s your point?

You have to read the post I responded to in order to grasp the point. The post implied that a 2001 championship is very old (which is true). My point is, a 1984 championship is even older. Not to mention that the Griz have been to more championship games than the Cats since then (our most recent the ‘24 game and yours the ‘25 game).

[tetoncat]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

Can someone walk me through exactly what Kyon Loud's return does to make their defense so much better? What does it mean for the game on Saturday? @BobcatBuiltTexan, I always appreciate your analysis but any comments are welcome.

Herder (who is usually good) is just getting a hard on for a team that he can't cover without bias. USD ran for 3.9/carry against them. SDSU, which wasn't a great run team, ran for something like 3. Pandas didn't suck, thats true. But Herder is acting like they're the second coming of the Steel Curtain or Purple People Eaters or Orange Crush.

It was only a month ago that Julius torched these guys for 7.1 per carry.

Herder does seem to have a soft spot for the gris, doesn't he?

Alot of these media guys do, which is so crazy. All they do is spout off about the record, but refuse to consider the last 10 years, and especially Bobby 2.0. Yes, they went to the NC in 2023, and lost by alot. Now they were undefeated, until Cat-Griz, but they're so entitled that they all think that was a fluke. They pulled wins out of their butts, but mostly they didn't really win, the other teams lost those games by mistakes, bad play calling, etc. I really hope we hang 40 on them and shut them up.

Yes! Let's kick their asses all the way back to 2001, where they perpetually exist!

Dave Arnold is 81 years old. LOL. The Griz have been to more National Championships after 2001 than the Cats have.

Joe Glenn is 76, Don Read would have been 92 tomorrow, and Bobbi is 12. What’s your point?

You have to read the post I responded to in order to grasp the point. The post implied that a 2001 championship is very old (which is true). My point is, a 1984 championship is even older. Not to mention that the Griz have been to more championship games than the Cats since then (our most recent the ‘24 game and yours the ‘25 game).

No your argument was Griz have been more dominant and other posters told you to quit living in the past. Your response was Cats championship wa 1984. Cat fans talk about the 3 championships, but don't talk about be a top team because of that 84 win. It is because of the last 10 years.