How do Cats stack up against Griz

[LIBBYCAT]

Conference rushing
3-Gillman
7-Davis
9-Jones
13-Lamson
29-Coon
31-Wortham
42-Fanoti
49-Ah Yat
50-White

Receiving
8-Wortham
9-Dowler
12-Davis(um)
22-Bohannon
31-Deck
35-Woods

QB comparative
Att. Comp. Td/int (carries/ yds /tds)eff.
4-Ah Yat 206 134 13 /3 (34/75/4 ) 154.6
7- Lamson. 146 100 18/0 (73/359/8) 187.2

Here is a comparative conference only, draw your own conclusions.

[Cataholic]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

As previously mentioned, the OOC schedule numbers radically skew your statistical analysis. If you can’t accept the apples to apples opponents,(or as close as it can be with an unbalanced conference schedule) at least grasp that your info is taken with a dose of “so what” and discounted as wishful drivel. If you insist on fantasy because it’s shaded the way you like, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

Totally expecting you to discount the information and take it with a dose of “so what.” I’m not pretending that this information predicts a Montana victory, but I think it’s funny how you and others believe there is some kind of empirical formula that concretizes “SOS” data and deletes “OOC” data and miraculously comes up with anything more meaningful than the above.

By excluding OOC games, you make the samples more comparable and therefore more meaningful.

What’s the point in comparing a game against Oregon to a game against Central Washington?

They are just cumulative stats kept by the FCS for all games played to date. It’s fair to view them as meaningless if that’s your view. There must be a few people who find them at least interesting, because otherwise they wouldn’t be maintained and published. To each his own.

I’m just asking if you see my point?

I don’t dispute that every team plays a different schedule. So if I was saying the stats mean Montana is a better team, I get your point. But I wasn’t. I just laid them out there without comment or intended analysis.

I see the Cats opened up as a 2.5 point favorite. You were way off base. Didn’t you say the Gris would be a 7 to 10 point favorite? I am sure you have some flimsy excuse like those oddsmakers don’t know anything.

[onceacat]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

You buffoon. UM has allowed 16 red zone TDs on 27 possessions. MSU has allowed 8 on 15 possessions.

MSUs red zone defense is 10 TDs better.

Your claim that Montana leads the Cats in red zone defense is entirely predicated on the fact that UM cant keep opposing offenses out of the red zone.

[OldGriz]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

As previously mentioned, the OOC schedule numbers radically skew your statistical analysis. If you can’t accept the apples to apples opponents,(or as close as it can be with an unbalanced conference schedule) at least grasp that your info is taken with a dose of “so what” and discounted as wishful drivel. If you insist on fantasy because it’s shaded the way you like, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

Totally expecting you to discount the information and take it with a dose of “so what.” I’m not pretending that this information predicts a Montana victory, but I think it’s funny how you and others believe there is some kind of empirical formula that concretizes “SOS” data and deletes “OOC” data and miraculously comes up with anything more meaningful than the above.

By excluding OOC games, you make the samples more comparable and therefore more meaningful.

What’s the point in comparing a game against Oregon to a game against Central Washington?

They are just cumulative stats kept by the FCS for all games played to date. It’s fair to view them as meaningless if that’s your view. There must be a few people who find them at least interesting, because otherwise they wouldn’t be maintained and published. To each his own.

I’m just asking if you see my point?

I don’t dispute that every team plays a different schedule. So if I was saying the stats mean Montana is a better team, I get your point. But I wasn’t. I just laid them out there without comment or intended analysis.

I see the Cats opened up as a 2.5 point favorite. You were way off base. Didn’t you say the Gris would be a 7 to 10 point favorite? I am sure you have some flimsy excuse like those oddsmakers don’t know anything.

You are right on … I was predicting Griz -7. It opens with Cats -2.5. It will be fun to see where it closes Saturday morning before kickoff. I’m 9.5 points off the mark as of today.

[OldGriz]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

You buffoon. UM has allowed 16 red zone TDs on 27 possessions. MSU has allowed 8 on 15 possessions.

MSUs red zone defense is 10 TDs better.

Your claim that Montana leads the Cats in red zone defense is entirely predicated on the fact that UM cant keep opposing offenses out of the red zone.

You are wrong.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/Fcs ... t/team/704

[bobcatfan123]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

You buffoon. UM has allowed 16 red zone TDs on 27 possessions. MSU has allowed 8 on 15 possessions.

MSUs red zone defense is 10 TDs better.

Your claim that Montana leads the Cats in red zone defense is entirely predicated on the fact that UM cant keep opposing offenses out of the red zone.

You are wrong.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/Fcs ... t/team/704

Stats are always true but often misleading….You both are debating different sets of stats. Old Griz posted non conference including our game against Oregon (big outlier) I’m guessing the other stats are from FCS opponents or conference stats.

[Cataholic]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

As previously mentioned, the OOC schedule numbers radically skew your statistical analysis. If you can’t accept the apples to apples opponents,(or as close as it can be with an unbalanced conference schedule) at least grasp that your info is taken with a dose of “so what” and discounted as wishful drivel. If you insist on fantasy because it’s shaded the way you like, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

Totally expecting you to discount the information and take it with a dose of “so what.” I’m not pretending that this information predicts a Montana victory, but I think it’s funny how you and others believe there is some kind of empirical formula that concretizes “SOS” data and deletes “OOC” data and miraculously comes up with anything more meaningful than the above.

By excluding OOC games, you make the samples more comparable and therefore more meaningful.

What’s the point in comparing a game against Oregon to a game against Central Washington?

They are just cumulative stats kept by the FCS for all games played to date. It’s fair to view them as meaningless if that’s your view. There must be a few people who find them at least interesting, because otherwise they wouldn’t be maintained and published. To each his own.

I’m just asking if you see my point?

I don’t dispute that every team plays a different schedule. So if I was saying the stats mean Montana is a better team, I get your point. But I wasn’t. I just laid them out there without comment or intended analysis.

I see the Cats opened up as a 2.5 point favorite. You were way off base. Didn’t you say the Gris would be a 7 to 10 point favorite? I am sure you have some flimsy excuse like those oddsmakers don’t know anything.

You are right on … I was predicting Griz -7. It opens with Cats -2.5. It will be fun to see where it closes Saturday morning before kickoff. I’m 9.5 points off the mark as of today.

So the oddsmakers believe the Cats are 2.5 points better than the Gris playing in Missoula. They are giving 2.5 points just to entice people to bet on the game. Are you saying they don’t know what they are doing? You do realize that the odds then adjust based on the bets. That is how Vegas makes money whether either team wins. I agree that there are a ton of stupid Gris fans that will bet the house on their undefeated team and move the spread.

[95bcfb]

This is a little different take than what has been made but I don't think the home field is as big a factor as it has been given. There were good reasons we have won at home and lost on the road the last few years.

4 years ago we went into that game with a QB who for whatever reason had lost his confidence and leadership on the team. The griz had a good defense and keyed in to stop the run. McKay's fear of keeping the football on the read option took away a large part of MSUs offence and made it easy for UM. We had closer games than they should have against Weber, Easter, and Idaho where the offence struggled and McKay just didn't look sharp. In addition, I think coach Vegan completely underestimated the rivalry that year and got outcoached. This scenario was not completely dissimilar to what um had going on with their QBs last year.

2 years ago our defense had difficulty stopping any good offense. The University of Montana on the other hand had a very strong defense and their nose tackle dominated our offensive line that day. Again, there were signs of this prior to playing the griz in the Idaho game and again later the North Dakota State game. Other factors in that game was the fact that both coordinators were facing DUI charges and may have known they weren't coming back at the end of the season. Again, frankly we were just not very well coached on the coordinator side of things that year.

We will see how this year goes but I think we are in a completely different place. We have the best defense in the conference. I have been very impressed with the coaching as a whole. Lamson is completely different quarterback than McKay and is a competitor. MSU handled business with every team they played going down the stretch and looks to be on a roll. The griz seam to have a good team but similar to the cats in 2023 have a defense that has struggled at times. I like our chances this year.

[allcat]

Griz offense is slightly better on paper but Cats D is better. Both teams are playing good football. I think in order for the Cats to win this game they'll need to put pressure on Ah Yat and contain Worthan and Gillman. Our offense will need to show up and play with consistency, unlike Mercyhurst or Cal Poly where they appear out-of-sync with long possession times but no points. Lamson looks sharp when he's on his game but when he's off makes poor reads and risky decisions running the ball where he doesn't protect himself. Think he does this sometimes to motivate himself but could result in injury. I'm not very confident about this game mostly because of how the last four years of the Brawl have disproportionally skewed the advantage for the home team. Coaches will need to prepare the team to overcome this as well as the noisy, hostile environment at WaGriz.

That's a very reasonable report

I. Think it is so very important to not have a slow start and fall behind like they did against UCD. The home field in Missoula makes it really hard to play from behind.

If you are 24 behind you are correct, less than that and not so much.

[CelticCat]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

[RockyBearCat]

Montana’s red zone defense ranks 1st in the conference and 16th in the nation (Cats rank 37th).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in turnovers gained (Cats are tied with nine teams for the 16th rank in the nation).

Montana ranks 1st in the conference (and 2nd in the nation) in passes intercepted (Cats are tied with seventeen teams for the 24th rank).

Montana ranks 6th in the nation in total offense (Cats are rank 16th).

Montana ranks 2nd in the nation in scoring offense (Cats rank 10th).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (3rd in the nation) in passing yards (Lamson ranks 31st).

Ah Yat ranks 1st in the conference (6th in the nation) in passing TDs (Lamson is tied with three others for the 21st rank).

Wortham is 3rd in the nation in all-purpose yards and Gillman is 20th (no Cats are in the top 50). Gillman is 6th in the nation in rushing yards (Davis is 38th).

As previously mentioned, the OOC schedule numbers radically skew your statistical analysis. If you can’t accept the apples to apples opponents,(or as close as it can be with an unbalanced conference schedule) at least grasp that your info is taken with a dose of “so what” and discounted as wishful drivel. If you insist on fantasy because it’s shaded the way you like, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

Totally expecting you to discount the information and take it with a dose of “so what.” I’m not pretending that this information predicts a Montana victory, but I think it’s funny how you and others believe there is some kind of empirical formula that concretizes “SOS” data and deletes “OOC” data and miraculously comes up with anything more meaningful than the above.

By excluding OOC games, you make the samples more comparable and therefore more meaningful.

What’s the point in comparing a game against Oregon to a game against Central Washington?

They are just cumulative stats kept by the FCS for all games played to date. It’s fair to view them as meaningless if that’s your view. There must be a few people who find them at least interesting, because otherwise they wouldn’t be maintained and published. To each his own.

Still showing the oldgris would be happy if his gris could play Central Washington and Liberty on 6 home and home series a year. Man would his boys have some stats then. Woohoo 12-0

[Prodigal Cat]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

I'm not confident putting this out there because I do think Gillman is a good player but if you look at his stats when he goes up against elite defenses its not good. Unless it can be schemed or blocked up he is mediocre to bad. Last year:

Vs Davis 8 for 21yards 2.6 YPC
Vs MSU 10 for 35yards 3.5 YPC
Vs SDSU 10 for 12yards 1.2 YPC

This year against teams with ok/good d line play:

Vs ISU 16 for 48 yards 3.0 YPC
Vs Sac 20 for 67yards 3.5 YPC

The only outlier is UND he had 16 for 82 for a 5.1YPC. He's just not elite at making guys miss. They have yet to play a line as good as MSU this year.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

I'm not confident putting this out there because I do think Gillman is a good player but if you look at his stats when he goes up against elite defenses its not good. Unless it can be schemed or blocked up he is mediocre to bad. Last year:

Vs Davis 8 for 21yards 2.6 YPC
Vs MSU 10 for 35yards 3.5 YPC
Vs SDSU 10 for 12yards 1.2 YPC

This year against teams with ok/good d line play:

Vs ISU 16 for 48 yards 3.0 YPC
Vs Sac 20 for 67yards 3.5 YPC

The only outlier is UND he had 16 for 82 for a 5.1YPC. He's just not elite at making guys miss. They have yet to play a line as good as MSU this year.

Strong disagree on his ability to make people miss. He’s very good at that.

I think a lot of his issues are his OL is meh at run blocking, he relies on explosives because of it, and it sure seems like he starts seasons off very strong but tails off right around the middle of it. Lot of variables for that, but it is a trend I’ve noticed. I think his biggest problem is his blocking isn’t all that great.

[Catsrgrood]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

I'm not confident putting this out there because I do think Gillman is a good player but if you look at his stats when he goes up against elite defenses its not good. Unless it can be schemed or blocked up he is mediocre to bad. Last year:

Vs Davis 8 for 21yards 2.6 YPC
Vs MSU 10 for 35yards 3.5 YPC
Vs SDSU 10 for 12yards 1.2 YPC

This year against teams with ok/good d line play:

Vs ISU 16 for 48 yards 3.0 YPC
Vs Sac 20 for 67yards 3.5 YPC

The only outlier is UND he had 16 for 82 for a 5.1YPC. He's just not elite at making guys miss. They have yet to play a line as good as MSU this year.

Strong disagree on his ability to make people miss. He’s very good at that.

I think a lot of his issues are his OL is meh at run blocking, he relies on explosives because of it, and it sure seems like he starts seasons off very strong but tails off right around the middle of it. Lot of variables for that, but it is a trend I’ve noticed. I think his biggest problem is his blocking isn’t all that great.

Agreed. I can’t claim to have watched him a ton, but I have seen a decent amount. You could argue that he gets what he gets because he makes people miss. The OL just isn’t very good that he’s running behind.

I think that Cats can absolutely slow him down, he’s not unstoppable by any stretch, but the reason why his stats are good, not great, has more to do with his OL than it does him.

Just wait till Bobby gets his guys on the OL, then they’ll really have something…

[Prodigal Cat]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

I'm not confident putting this out there because I do think Gillman is a good player but if you look at his stats when he goes up against elite defenses its not good. Unless it can be schemed or blocked up he is mediocre to bad. Last year:

Vs Davis 8 for 21yards 2.6 YPC
Vs MSU 10 for 35yards 3.5 YPC
Vs SDSU 10 for 12yards 1.2 YPC

This year against teams with ok/good d line play:

Vs ISU 16 for 48 yards 3.0 YPC
Vs Sac 20 for 67yards 3.5 YPC

The only outlier is UND he had 16 for 82 for a 5.1YPC. He's just not elite at making guys miss. They have yet to play a line as good as MSU this year.

Strong disagree on his ability to make people miss. He’s very good at that.

I think a lot of his issues are his OL is meh at run blocking, he relies on explosives because of it, and it sure seems like he starts seasons off very strong but tails off right around the middle of it. Lot of variables for that, but it is a trend I’ve noticed. I think his biggest problem is his blocking isn’t all that great.

I didn’t say he was bad at it. He’s just not elite. He’s not Ifanse caliber. Last year they schemed up their offense to target getting him in space against Ortt because BH thought Rylan was slow and bad and Rylan ate his lunch.

[seataccat]

Griz offense is slightly better on paper but Cats D is better. Both teams are playing good football. I think in order for the Cats to win this game they'll need to put pressure on Ah Yat and contain Worthan and Gillman. Our offense will need to show up and play with consistency, unlike Mercyhurst or Cal Poly where they appear out-of-sync with long possession times but no points. Lamson looks sharp when he's on his game but when he's off makes poor reads and risky decisions running the ball where he doesn't protect himself. Think he does this sometimes to motivate himself but could result in injury. I'm not very confident about this game mostly because of how the last four years of the Brawl have disproportionally skewed the advantage for the home team. Coaches will need to prepare the team to overcome this as well as the noisy, hostile environment at WaGriz.

That's a very reasonable report

I. Think it is so very important to not have a slow start and fall behind like they did against UCD. The home field in Missoula makes it really hard to play from behind.

If you are 24 behind you are correct, less than that and not so much.

Are you new to griz games in Missoula?

[BelligerentBobcat]

I got premium PFF for the podcast so prepare to be bombarded with meaningless player and team grades throughout the week.

National Grades:
Passing
#21 Justin Lamson
#27 Keali'i Ah Yat

Rushing Grades:
T#5 Julius Davis
#21 Eli Gillman

Receiving Grades:
#17 Michael Wortham
#38 Taco Dowler

I'm not confident putting this out there because I do think Gillman is a good player but if you look at his stats when he goes up against elite defenses its not good. Unless it can be schemed or blocked up he is mediocre to bad. Last year:

Vs Davis 8 for 21yards 2.6 YPC
Vs MSU 10 for 35yards 3.5 YPC
Vs SDSU 10 for 12yards 1.2 YPC

This year against teams with ok/good d line play:

Vs ISU 16 for 48 yards 3.0 YPC
Vs Sac 20 for 67yards 3.5 YPC

The only outlier is UND he had 16 for 82 for a 5.1YPC. He's just not elite at making guys miss. They have yet to play a line as good as MSU this year.

Strong disagree on his ability to make people miss. He’s very good at that.

I think a lot of his issues are his OL is meh at run blocking, he relies on explosives because of it, and it sure seems like he starts seasons off very strong but tails off right around the middle of it. Lot of variables for that, but it is a trend I’ve noticed. I think his biggest problem is his blocking isn’t all that great.

I didn’t say he was bad at it. He’s just not elite. He’s not Ifanse caliber. Last year they schemed up their offense to target getting him in space against Ortt because BH thought Rylan was slow and bad and Rylan ate his lunch.

I really don’t think you’ll find many FCS backs better at making defenders miss.

[MrGoodKat]

Out of curiosity, I looked back on the 2023 game stats to see what kind of participation the Griz had from MT players.

The offense was pretty sparse-- Bergen had over 100 yards of offense and Grimsrud was a starting OL.

But on defense it was MT kids all over the place.

Their five leading tacklers were all Montanans: Hill, Flink, Tirrell, Lee, and Janacaro.

Meyer, Deck, Klucewich, and Gradney were all out there in the secondary.

In 2021, it was also heavily MT players:

The top 3 leading receivers (Bergen, Roberts, and Simpson).

On defense, Jace Lewis, Marcus Welnel, Robby Hauck, Garrett Graves, Hank Nuce...

It will be interesting to see if anything is different this year given how few key in-state players they have.

[ClowderUp]

What Oldgris doesn't seem to understand (because he lacks football knowledge) is the irrelevance of the SDSU game. If the Cats pull out a win in early September, then they are the #2 team in eyes if the committee. If the Cats lose in double overtime, they are the #2 team in their eyes. If the Cats lose by 2 scores, or win by 2 scores, they are the #2 team. Man this guy fails so hard over here.

[OldGriz]

What Oldgris doesn't seem to understand (because he lacks football knowledge) is the irrelevance of the SDSU game. If the Cats pull out a win in early September, then they are the #2 team in eyes if the committee. If the Cats lose in double overtime, they are the #2 team in their eyes. If the Cats lose by 2 scores, or win by 2 scores, they are the #2 team. Man this guy fails so hard over here.

Oh man. You really want to revive a discussion of the Cats’ loss to a team with a losing record? I’ll shut up unless you do.