How do Cats stack up against Griz

[onceacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

Turns out it's highly predictive of outcomes. I guess the UM Stats department has fallen on hard times?

[kwcat]

I have to say regarding the rotating of players…Griz fans might legitimately be stupid. On one hand, they seem to think just rotating players at positions like RB, WR, LB, and DL is completely abnormal, and a sign of playing backups because that’s “Bobby Ball”. They don’t seem to realize that almost nobody outside of the QB, and OL are playing every single snap during a game (obviously some exceptions, usually seen at CB, S, or LB). But these guys needs breaks. It’s just how it goes. Normal football, everybody rotates.

Then on the other hand, Hauck has them all convinced that rotating a center is completely normal, and happens all the time. I don’t know if they’re just not able to question the narrative, or if they don’t actually follow football at all. But I think that’s where a lot of their “we’re playing backups early!” stuff comes from. They’re just rotating, which everybody does.

BH genius

[OldGriz]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

Turns out it's highly predictive of outcomes. I guess the UM Stats department has fallen on hard times?

Really? Then what’s your prediction? We’ll test it.

[rivercat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

Turns out it's highly predictive of outcomes. I guess the UM Stats department has fallen on hard times?

Really? Then what’s your prediction? We’ll test it.

A rivalry game obviously has other factors, but point differential between common opponents is the best predictive stat when betting on games. Anyone who has played the game knows this.

[nanacat]

Literally the ONLY thing that favors the griz next week is location of the game

[Bocephus]

I can’t wait for the “ are the gris sneaky” thread!

[MrGoodKat]

Literally the ONLY thing that favors the griz next week is location of the game

They also create negative splash plays on defense at a higher rate. That could be a force multiplier for the home field advantage. If MSU comes out for their first drive and there’s a big sack, the crowd is going to get really juiced.

But I agree that generally speaking, the Cats are better than them almost across the board.

[Cataholic]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

[tetoncat]

Can't have turnovers or ST mistakes. Griz style of D is dependent on that.

[94VegasCat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

I think ‘survived’ by 5 is more descriptive.

[MrGoodKat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

I think ‘survived’ by 5 is more descriptive.

This isn’t bound to be a very popular opinion, but I think EW was way luckier to be in that game at the end than UM was to hang on for the win.

[catatac]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

I think ‘survived’ by 5 is more descriptive.

This isn’t bound to be a very popular opinion, but I think EW was way luckier to be in that game at the end than UM was to hang on for the win.

I absolutely agree here and was thinking the exact same thing. Both things can be true too. EWU got some stupid lucky breaks and probably shouldn't have been within a couple scores at the end..... but then once the Griz found themselves in that hole, they were extremely lucky to escape it.

[TomCat88]

I think one area that the Griz have an edge is starting fast recently at home while the Cats start slow on the road. If that trend continues, UM would grab an early lead.

[onceacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

Turns out it's highly predictive of outcomes. I guess the UM Stats department has fallen on hard times?

Really? Then what’s your prediction? We’ll test it.

Cats have about a 60-75% chance to win.

[rfischer94]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

You're so lame. You should just go away. You have nothing of value to offer to this forum.

[MrGoodKat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

I think ‘survived’ by 5 is more descriptive.

This isn’t bound to be a very popular opinion, but I think EW was way luckier to be in that game at the end than UM was to hang on for the win.

I absolutely agree here and was thinking the exact same thing. Both things can be true too. EWU got some stupid lucky breaks and probably shouldn't have been within a couple scores at the end..... but then once the Griz found themselves in that hole, they were extremely lucky to escape it.

That’s well said.

[RedClowder]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

I think ‘survived’ by 5 is more descriptive.

This isn’t bound to be a very popular opinion, but I think EW was way luckier to be in that game at the end than UM was to hang on for the win.

I absolutely agree here and was thinking the exact same thing. Both things can be true too. EWU got some stupid lucky breaks and probably shouldn't have been within a couple scores at the end..... but then once the Griz found themselves in that hole, they were extremely lucky to escape it.

I agree with this. EWU fought and caught some breaks to be in that game at the end and fumbled a golden opportunity away. The 4th quarter offense and defense looked a bit shaky for the griz. That interception in the red zone was a good play by the Griz D but man they did not inspire much confidence beyond that. I also think the team that played the Griz looked better than the one that showed up in Bobcat Stadium. The 24 first quarter points might’ve had something to do with that. Some of the play calling against the Cats was absurd. The QB run plays on 3rd and 8+ multiple times?? What was that OC thinking? Also, that botched snap looked like a safety to me.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

So watching griz and psu right now. Watched 1 drive of defense and offense..... quick take

Their defense: very aggressive, swarms to the ball. Aggressive with their de's. Very similar to our defense, they use their dl to allow lbs to run free. Lbs play at an increased depth so they can just trigger and go, if they aren't at depth its a blitz. Dbs are ok, not great by any OK, psu is killing them with spot routes. They play a ton of zone which is why 1. The spots routes are open and 2. Confirms my take that their dbs aren't that good. Psu is picking up where the blitz is coming from and just throwing opposite. Running is tough sledding.

Their offense: Gillman reminds me stylistically of LaDainian Tomlinson, not ability, JUST style, well get hit for repeated no yd gains then pop one. That's rbs I hated playing against, they run hard every play and seen to get stronger as the game goes. Extremely unimpressed with the wr corps. I must know football a little bit cause psu is doing what I said we should do to Wortham and um isn doing what I said they should do with him against us, psu is playing man on him in the slot and playing zone around him. He can't seem to shake that db. My concern is our best dbs, coverage wise are at cb, so how are our safeties and nickles going to cover him. He's faster than ah yat's an strength, so our dbs will have to be ready to play underthrown balls on the deep ball, no PIs. Ol is ok, not great.. good enough from what I'm seeing.

Long as we just show up and play we will be fine. Nothing I see scares me at all. My biggest concern is what are they going to do to try to level the playing field because from what I see they don't stack up to us. Psu isn't a great team and I'm seeing our players main bigger plays running these same plays. If we can not get over emotional and let the cat-griz game be too much we will be just fine. Show up ready to play and simply execute with a high level of controlled aggression and we win going away

[onceacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

Turns out it's highly predictive of outcomes. I guess the UM Stats department has fallen on hard times?

Really? Then what’s your prediction? We’ll test it.

A rivalry game obviously has other factors, but point differential between common opponents is the best predictive stat when betting on games. Anyone who has played the game knows this.

The UM stats department has fallen on hard times.

[HookedOnGriz]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Yep. Also same MSU team that beat EWU 57-3 yet the Pandas won by 5.

Well if you’re going to play the card that the loss at home to SDSU wasn’t all that bad because they had their QB Mason available and are much better with him ….then you have to also 100% accept the fact that the freshman EWU QB the Griz faced (and the Cats didn’t) is also a huge difference maker for their team. That kid went 31-41 for 299 and 2 TDs today in their win.