How do Cats stack up against Griz

[seataccat]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

It's been so predictably hilarious. Since the gris jumped the cats in the polls those weeks ago, they have all been beating their chests about how the sports writers and coaches know how much better the gris are than the cats. Now that the playoff poll has come out, they have flipped the narrative about how it's biased and that it will all be taken care of at the Cat/Giz game.
Equally funny was how they all predicted the cats being at the bottom of the conference without Tommy.

[Prodigal Cat]

@Prodigal Cat --- What is the gris record against the spread this year. Same question for CATS?

Gris are 4-5 versus the spread. The only game they have covered comfortably was the Indiana State game. The other 3 they covered are Sac St, Weber and Cal Poly, the latter 2 were by .5.

Cats are 5-4 versus the spread. The non-conference wasn't good as the only game they covered was the San Diego game (if you think about it Ducks rolled, SDSU won when the Cats were favored, and Mercyhurst). In conference though they are 4-1 with only Cal Poly covering. They covered very big numbers versus NAU, Idaho St, EWU, and UNCU easily.

[OldGriz]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

[nanacat]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

Except that the one side, the committee, makes the final decision. So regardless of how many eyes are looking, there's only one set that actually matters. Just sayin.

[OldGriz]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

Except that the one side, the committee, makes the final decision. So regardless of how many eyes are looking, there's only one set that actually matters. Just sayin.

To the degree that the discussion is about FCS playoff seeding, I get it and totally agree — the committee of 11 administrators is omnipotent and can do as it pleases. I have not predicted playoff seeds in any of my posts.

[seataccat]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

except that 200 coaches and writers don't agree that the griz are better. A slim majority do, and the committee that actually matters do not.

[TomCat88]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

[OldGriz]

Six guys. LOL. (A majority of 11 administrators). I’ll take the majority opinion of hundreds of coaches and beat writers any day. I’m not talking about playoff seeding.

[TomCat88]

The Bobcats simply stack up really well against the Griz "on paper." The game is played "on the field" and there's no guarantee that the better team will win in any game ever (Chaminade proved this against Ralph Sampson and Virginia). It's just one game. The Cat-Griz games the last five years have not been good representations of how much better or worse one team is over the other. So many random things have happened in each game that none of them have played out as you would expect. I'm sorry, last year's game may have been one that was fairly indicative of how good each team was. MSU was a national championship caliber team, while UM was around the No. 8-No. 13 team. So, considering MSU was at home, the 34-11 score wasn't all that surprising.

[TomCat88]

Six guys. LOL. (A majority of 11 administrators). I’ll take the majority opinion of hundreds of coaches and beat writers any day. I’m not talking about playoff seeding.

Six guys, 25 guys. If you let people sit down together and challenge one another's opinions, you get a better result. It's like peer review in science. You don't just get to state your opinion/theory and walk away unchallenged. That's the difference. It isn't that anyone is smarter or stupider. It's the variable of having to defend your work that makes the difference. Like when you create a jury and they have to work together on a verdict. They don't just go to separate rooms and make a singular decision on their own.

[nutman]

” Six guys. LOL. (A majority of 11 administrators). I’ll take the majority opinion of hundreds of coaches and beat writers any day. I’m not talking about playoff seeding.”

Nice crowd work. You like playing from behind or is it the thrill of arguing a lost cause? The 11 people that will select have made their opinions clear. Plus, go look at sagarin. If it doesn’t become clear, it’s bad faith. Clear as day. Could the Gris win? Yes. If Indiana State was at home they would’ve had an even better chance to beat best SDSU. But you,….you like to claim that since it came out of your head it is special. Special indeed, buddy!

[BelligerentBobcat]

Six guys. LOL. (A majority of 11 administrators). I’ll take the majority opinion of hundreds of coaches and beat writers any day. I’m not talking about playoff seeding.

Incredible cope here. Quite impressive Jack.

[tetoncat]

Oldgriz really believes coaches vote
And if you listen to very many podcasts or read articles around the nation many writers don't know much about teams other than the one they cover and some in TN eir conference.

[Colter_Nuanez]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

Also, worth noting that the only legitimate writers and reporters who have votes now are a small handful of national guys. There used to be 175 voters in the national poll, with Skyline Sports having two votes every week as well as for all the national awards. When they decided to play a pseudo spring season and we decided not to cover it, the voting panel was shaved to less than 50. Some are affiliated radio guys who work for teams. Others are national pundits who aren't reporters, just talking heads.

The polls have very little legitimacy. They exist to create content and arguments. I don't even post them on Skyline anymore.

[OldGriz]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

Also, worth noting that the only legitimate writers and reporters who have votes now are a small handful of national guys. There used to be 175 voters in the national poll, with Skyline Sports having two votes every week as well as for all the national awards. When they decided to play a pseudo spring season and we decided not to cover it, the voting panel was shaved to less than 50. Some are affiliated radio guys who work for teams. Others are national pundits who aren't reporters, just talking heads.

The polls have very little legitimacy. They exist to create content and arguments. I don't even post them on Skyline anymore.

They have the same legitimacy they’ve always had, ever since the AP football writers poll began in 1936 and the major college football coaches poll began in 1950. If you’re saying they’ve never had legitimacy, than so be it, and at least you’re consistent. I hold a different view.

[tdub]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

Also, worth noting that the only legitimate writers and reporters who have votes now are a small handful of national guys. There used to be 175 voters in the national poll, with Skyline Sports having two votes every week as well as for all the national awards. When they decided to play a pseudo spring season and we decided not to cover it, the voting panel was shaved to less than 50. Some are affiliated radio guys who work for teams. Others are national pundits who aren't reporters, just talking heads.

The polls have very little legitimacy. They exist to create content and arguments. I don't even post them on Skyline anymore.

They have the same legitimacy they’ve always had, ever since the AP football writers poll began in 1936 and the major college football coaches poll began in 1950. If you’re saying they’ve never had legitimacy, than so be it, and at least you’re consistent. I hold a different view.

THAT’s what you take from what he wrote?? Is this one of those confuse-the-jury-type-things to distract from the actual story? Nice lawyer trick….

[TomCat88]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

Also, worth noting that the only legitimate writers and reporters who have votes now are a small handful of national guys. There used to be 175 voters in the national poll, with Skyline Sports having two votes every week as well as for all the national awards. When they decided to play a pseudo spring season and we decided not to cover it, the voting panel was shaved to less than 50. Some are affiliated radio guys who work for teams. Others are national pundits who aren't reporters, just talking heads.

The polls have very little legitimacy. They exist to create content and arguments. I don't even post them on Skyline anymore.

They have the same legitimacy they’ve always had, ever since the AP football writers poll began in 1936 and the major college football coaches poll began in 1950. If you’re saying they’ve never had legitimacy, than so be it, and at least you’re consistent. I hold a different view.

They aren’t nearly as legitimate now. The polls then were it. Those polls selected the national champion. End of story. They were more important. No comparison.

[Cataholic]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

On one side are the coaches and the beat writers for 129 FCS programs, who rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. On the other side are 11 university administrators and Sammy, who rank the Cats higher. LOL. It’s not exactly crazy to view the collective opinion of more than 200 coaches and writers as credible. Sammy and the 11 administrators are credible, too, but 12 is a very small set of eyes.

It is totally acceptable to consider the coaches and beat writers as credible if you don't realize that a significant number of the coaches and writers aren't spending a lot of time on their ballots. They don't sit down together to hash out and rationalize where teams should be ranked as the committee does. I'd rather have a group of knowledgeable administrators sit down together with an open discussion than 200 or so anonymous people, who don't work together or maybe work together with 2-3 others.

Also, worth noting that the only legitimate writers and reporters who have votes now are a small handful of national guys. There used to be 175 voters in the national poll, with Skyline Sports having two votes every week as well as for all the national awards. When they decided to play a pseudo spring season and we decided not to cover it, the voting panel was shaved to less than 50. Some are affiliated radio guys who work for teams. Others are national pundits who aren't reporters, just talking heads.

The polls have very little legitimacy. They exist to create content and arguments. I don't even post them on Skyline anymore.

They have the same legitimacy they’ve always had, ever since the AP football writers poll began in 1936 and the major college football coaches poll began in 1950. If you’re saying they’ve never had legitimacy, than so be it, and at least you’re consistent. I hold a different view.

A credible source who was a voter just explained to you what the polls have morphed into. Instead of acknowledging that actual experience, you attack the source. Keep posting though! It does make Gris fans look like idiots! If you had partners at your law firm, they have to cringe every time they hear “Jack is posting again”.

[Cataholic]

When you look at this, it would be pretty difficult to not place the Cats as the premier team in the conference.

[ilovethecats]

Equally funny was how they all predicted the cats being at the bottom of the conference without Tommy.

Honestly this has been my favorite part of the season. Some acted as if there was NO way we could be good after losing Tommy. And they said our defense wouldn't be as good either. I've maintained since the summer I felt like this team would be better overall than last year, despite losing some really great players on both sides of the ball.

Though to be fair to griz fans, some of our own were acting the same way after we started 0-2. Some acted like I was crazy saying we'd win out until the Brawl.

This is a very good team getting better every week.