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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by cats2506 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:50 pm

bsnwhespen23 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:48 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:32 am
Ideal scenario:

Cats win out, and win Cat/gris by a couple scores, enough to drop the gris to 4 or 5, rather than 3. Cats wrap up the #2 seed.

NDSU wins out wraps up the #1 seed.

gris drop to #4 or #5.

gris have to go on the road to Fargo. If they pull off the upset, we get the chance to have the most epic Cat/gris ever. And what would be a rematch against a team that the Cats would have just beat in their own house.

If it goes as expected, we go get a shot at NDSU once again, but it’s not in Fargo or Frisco.

There are two places I’d really rather not play in the playoffs, Fargo and Missoula. This would avoid both of them.

What a lot of people were thinking might be a 4, possibly 5 team race may just be a 3 team race. The #2 seed might be the ideal spot to let the other two contenders meet before Nashville.
I can't argue with this. But I hate looking ahead knowing we have the trap game with Davis right before the Brawl.
Not a trap, 1-0 each week


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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:53 pm

bsnwhespen23 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:48 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:32 am
Ideal scenario:

Cats win out, and win Cat/gris by a couple scores, enough to drop the gris to 4 or 5, rather than 3. Cats wrap up the #2 seed.

NDSU wins out wraps up the #1 seed.

gris drop to #4 or #5.

gris have to go on the road to Fargo. If they pull off the upset, we get the chance to have the most epic Cat/gris ever. And what would be a rematch against a team that the Cats would have just beat in their own house.

If it goes as expected, we go get a shot at NDSU once again, but it’s not in Fargo or Frisco.

There are two places I’d really rather not play in the playoffs, Fargo and Missoula. This would avoid both of them.

What a lot of people were thinking might be a 4, possibly 5 team race may just be a 3 team race. The #2 seed might be the ideal spot to let the other two contenders meet before Nashville.
I can't argue with this. But I hate looking ahead knowing we have the trap game with Davis right before the Brawl.
I love looking ahead, the team on the other hand should not…



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by The MICKSTER » Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:00 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:09 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:32 am
Ideal scenario:

Cats win out, and win Cat/gris by a couple scores, enough to drop the gris to 4 or 5, rather than 3. Cats wrap up the #2 seed.

NDSU wins out wraps up the #1 seed.

gris drop to #4 or #5.

gris have to go on the road to Fargo. If they pull off the upset, we get the chance to have the most epic Cat/gris ever. And what would be a rematch against a team that the Cats would have just beat in their own house.

If it goes as expected, we go get a shot at NDSU once again, but it’s not in Fargo or Frisco.

There are two places I’d really rather not play in the playoffs, Fargo and Missoula. This would avoid both of them.

What a lot of people were thinking might be a 4, possibly 5 team race may just be a 3 team race. The #2 seed might be the ideal spot to let the other two contenders meet before Nashville.
IF Tarleton wins out, they will be 11-1 with an FBS win and 10 FCS wins, and an FCS loss on the road to a likely top 20 team
IF the gris lose the Brawl they'll be 11-1 with no FBS wins and only 9 FCS wins (remember they played a DII school) and a loss at home to a top 5 FCS school.
IF we lose the Brawl we'll be 9-3 with an FBS loss to a top 5 FBS team and a OT FCS loss to SDSU at home(who will have at least 2 if not more losses)
Even IF Tarleton wins out, the winner of the Brawl will be ranked above them. However, the loser of the Brawl I think will be #4 or lower, below Tarleton, especially if we lose the Brawl.
I could also see an 11-1 Tarleton with an FBS win along with 10 FCS wins and a close loss to an FCS top 20 on the road, would be ranked above an 11-1 (10-1 FCS) um with a loss at home. It could depend on how bad we beat them.
IF we were ranked #2 and the gris got the #3 seed, I would relish them having to come to Bozeman 4 weeks after we beat them at wa-gris.
That’s what I’m saying.

If the Cats win by a walk off FG, I could see the Cats and gris just flip flopping in the standings. We’d still get #2 and they’d likely get #3 even with Tarleton winning out.

If the Cats can win by a couple scores, and Tarleton wins out, gris would likely drop down to #4 and Tarleton would get the #3.

The problem is if we lose and Tarleton wins out. We’d get at best the #4, maybe even the #5, putting us on a collision course with NDSU in Fargo.

Cat/gris is absolutely huge this year. Not just for the home field advantage up until Nashville, but also the chance to avoid the other main contender until Nashville.
We're both on the same page if we lose the Brawl and Tarleton wins out we'll be #4 at best.
However, if the gris lose the Brawl, even if my 1 score, they'll be a 10-1 FCS team, w/a home loss, and w/o a FBS win, versus a 10-1 FCS team w/a FBS win to make them a 11-1 D1 record w/ a road loss. I could see Tarleton jumping both the CATS and um........but it'd be close.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:13 pm

What is the last “trap” game MSU has fallen to under Vigen?

Look, after what happened to MSU @ UC Davis last year, they aren’t overlooking this game. Plus it’s a night game, last home game before playoffs…2506 is exactly right, it’s not a trap game.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:15 pm

The MICKSTER wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:00 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:09 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:32 am
Ideal scenario:

Cats win out, and win Cat/gris by a couple scores, enough to drop the gris to 4 or 5, rather than 3. Cats wrap up the #2 seed.

NDSU wins out wraps up the #1 seed.

gris drop to #4 or #5.

gris have to go on the road to Fargo. If they pull off the upset, we get the chance to have the most epic Cat/gris ever. And what would be a rematch against a team that the Cats would have just beat in their own house.

If it goes as expected, we go get a shot at NDSU once again, but it’s not in Fargo or Frisco.

There are two places I’d really rather not play in the playoffs, Fargo and Missoula. This would avoid both of them.

What a lot of people were thinking might be a 4, possibly 5 team race may just be a 3 team race. The #2 seed might be the ideal spot to let the other two contenders meet before Nashville.
IF Tarleton wins out, they will be 11-1 with an FBS win and 10 FCS wins, and an FCS loss on the road to a likely top 20 team
IF the gris lose the Brawl they'll be 11-1 with no FBS wins and only 9 FCS wins (remember they played a DII school) and a loss at home to a top 5 FCS school.
IF we lose the Brawl we'll be 9-3 with an FBS loss to a top 5 FBS team and a OT FCS loss to SDSU at home(who will have at least 2 if not more losses)
Even IF Tarleton wins out, the winner of the Brawl will be ranked above them. However, the loser of the Brawl I think will be #4 or lower, below Tarleton, especially if we lose the Brawl.
I could also see an 11-1 Tarleton with an FBS win along with 10 FCS wins and a close loss to an FCS top 20 on the road, would be ranked above an 11-1 (10-1 FCS) um with a loss at home. It could depend on how bad we beat them.
IF we were ranked #2 and the gris got the #3 seed, I would relish them having to come to Bozeman 4 weeks after we beat them at wa-gris.
That’s what I’m saying.

If the Cats win by a walk off FG, I could see the Cats and gris just flip flopping in the standings. We’d still get #2 and they’d likely get #3 even with Tarleton winning out.

If the Cats can win by a couple scores, and Tarleton wins out, gris would likely drop down to #4 and Tarleton would get the #3.

The problem is if we lose and Tarleton wins out. We’d get at best the #4, maybe even the #5, putting us on a collision course with NDSU in Fargo.

Cat/gris is absolutely huge this year. Not just for the home field advantage up until Nashville, but also the chance to avoid the other main contender until Nashville.
We're both on the same page if we lose the Brawl and Tarleton wins out we'll be #4 at best.
However, if the gris lose the Brawl, even if my 1 score, they'll be a 10-1 FCS team, w/a home loss, and w/o a FBS win, versus a 10-1 FCS team w/a FBS win to make them a 11-1 D1 record w/ a road loss. I could see Tarleton jumping both the CATS and um........but it'd be close.
I don’t see any scenario that the Cats aren’t the #2 if they win out. Whether they beat the gris by 1 or 40.
They’d be on a 10 game winning streak and fresh off a road win against the #2 team.

The winner of the brawl will be #2.

It’s what happens at 3,4 and 5 that could get interesting with the loser of the brawl, Tarleton and possibly someone else.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by MSU01 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:26 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:13 pm
What is the last “trap” game MSU has fallen to under Vigen?

Look, after what happened to MSU @ UC Davis last year, they aren’t overlooking this game. Plus it’s a night game, last home game before playoffs…2506 is exactly right, it’s not a trap game.
I think we're still waiting for the first "trap game" MSU has lost under Vigen.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:52 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:26 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:13 pm
What is the last “trap” game MSU has fallen to under Vigen?

Look, after what happened to MSU @ UC Davis last year, they aren’t overlooking this game. Plus it’s a night game, last home game before playoffs…2506 is exactly right, it’s not a trap game.
I think we're still waiting for the first "trap game" MSU has lost under Vigen.
Precisely.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by kwcat » Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:52 pm


Interesting to hear the conversation about the top four teams



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by catzz » Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:17 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:52 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:26 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:13 pm
What is the last “trap” game MSU has fallen to under Vigen?

Look, after what happened to MSU @ UC Davis last year, they aren’t overlooking this game. Plus it’s a night game, last home game before playoffs…2506 is exactly right, it’s not a trap game.
I think we're still waiting for the first "trap game" MSU has lost under Vigen.
Precisely.
We haven’t had them. Our issue under coach V is in Washington Griz stadium when we have had the better team and show up gonzo.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by tetoncat » Tue Nov 04, 2025 8:40 am

catzz wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:17 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:52 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:26 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:13 pm
What is the last “trap” game MSU has fallen to under Vigen?

Look, after what happened to MSU @ UC Davis last year, they aren’t overlooking this game. Plus it’s a night game, last home game before playoffs…2506 is exactly right, it’s not a trap game.
I think we're still waiting for the first "trap game" MSU has lost under Vigen.
Precisely.
We haven’t had them. Our issue under coach V is in Washington Griz stadium when we have had the better team and show up gonzo.
Which year was that


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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by The MICKSTER » Tue Nov 04, 2025 8:44 am

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:15 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:00 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:09 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:32 am
Ideal scenario:

Cats win out, and win Cat/gris by a couple scores, enough to drop the gris to 4 or 5, rather than 3. Cats wrap up the #2 seed.

NDSU wins out wraps up the #1 seed.

gris drop to #4 or #5.

gris have to go on the road to Fargo. If they pull off the upset, we get the chance to have the most epic Cat/gris ever. And what would be a rematch against a team that the Cats would have just beat in their own house.

If it goes as expected, we go get a shot at NDSU once again, but it’s not in Fargo or Frisco.

There are two places I’d really rather not play in the playoffs, Fargo and Missoula. This would avoid both of them.

What a lot of people were thinking might be a 4, possibly 5 team race may just be a 3 team race. The #2 seed might be the ideal spot to let the other two contenders meet before Nashville.
IF Tarleton wins out, they will be 11-1 with an FBS win and 10 FCS wins, and an FCS loss on the road to a likely top 20 team
IF the gris lose the Brawl they'll be 11-1 with no FBS wins and only 9 FCS wins (remember they played a DII school) and a loss at home to a top 5 FCS school.
IF we lose the Brawl we'll be 9-3 with an FBS loss to a top 5 FBS team and a OT FCS loss to SDSU at home(who will have at least 2 if not more losses)
Even IF Tarleton wins out, the winner of the Brawl will be ranked above them. However, the loser of the Brawl I think will be #4 or lower, below Tarleton, especially if we lose the Brawl.
I could also see an 11-1 Tarleton with an FBS win along with 10 FCS wins and a close loss to an FCS top 20 on the road, would be ranked above an 11-1 (10-1 FCS) um with a loss at home. It could depend on how bad we beat them.
IF we were ranked #2 and the gris got the #3 seed, I would relish them having to come to Bozeman 4 weeks after we beat them at wa-gris.
That’s what I’m saying.

If the Cats win by a walk off FG, I could see the Cats and gris just flip flopping in the standings. We’d still get #2 and they’d likely get #3 even with Tarleton winning out.

If the Cats can win by a couple scores, and Tarleton wins out, gris would likely drop down to #4 and Tarleton would get the #3.

The problem is if we lose and Tarleton wins out. We’d get at best the #4, maybe even the #5, putting us on a collision course with NDSU in Fargo.

Cat/gris is absolutely huge this year. Not just for the home field advantage up until Nashville, but also the chance to avoid the other main contender until Nashville.
We're both on the same page if we lose the Brawl and Tarleton wins out we'll be #4 at best.
However, if the gris lose the Brawl, even if my 1 score, they'll be a 10-1 FCS team, w/a home loss, and w/o a FBS win, versus a 10-1 FCS team w/a FBS win to make them a 11-1 D1 record w/ a road loss. I could see Tarleton jumping both the CATS and um........but it'd be close.
I don’t see any scenario that the Cats aren’t the #2 if they win out. Whether they beat the gris by 1 or 40.
They’d be on a 10 game winning streak and fresh off a road win against the #2 team.

The winner of the brawl will be #2.

It’s what happens at 3,4 and 5 that could get interesting with the loser of the brawl, Tarleton and possibly someone else.
I was inarticulate when I stated "I could see Tarleton jumping both the CATS and um........", what I should of stated/meant was I could see Tarleton jumping the the loser of the Brawl, whomever it is........but it'd be close.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by The MICKSTER » Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:09 am

On October 15, the FCS Playoff Committee released the following Top 10 rankings/seeds………
1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. Tarleton State
4. Montana State
5. Montana
6. UC Davis
7. Lehigh
8. UND
9. Monmouth
10. Tennessee Tech

Tomorrow, W Nov 5th, they’ll release another ranking/seeding of what they are thinking. I believe the announcement will be on ESPN2@noon(?).
My guess will be NDSU, MSU, um, Tarleton, ???????. I just don't see anything that NDSU, MSU or um have done since Oct 15 to change their rankings compared to the others........we’ll see.



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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:01 pm

The MICKSTER wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:09 am
On October 15, the FCS Playoff Committee released the following Top 10 rankings/seeds………
1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. Tarleton State
4. Montana State
5. Montana
6. UC Davis
7. Lehigh
8. UND
9. Monmouth
10. Tennessee Tech

Tomorrow, W Nov 5th, they’ll release another ranking/seeding of what they are thinking. I believe the announcement will be on ESPN2@noon(?).
My guess will be NDSU, MSU, um, Tarleton, ???????. I just don't see anything that NDSU, MSU or um have done since Oct 15 to change their rankings compared to the others........we’ll see.
One thing that changed is sdsu has lost twice since then, which makes MSU’s fcs loss look not as good. If the griz move ahead of us, that would be the only reason why. Otherwise I agree, it most likely will go ndsu, MSU, um as top 3.


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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by tetoncat » Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:50 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:01 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:09 am
On October 15, the FCS Playoff Committee released the following Top 10 rankings/seeds………
1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. Tarleton State
4. Montana State
5. Montana
6. UC Davis
7. Lehigh
8. UND
9. Monmouth
10. Tennessee Tech

Tomorrow, W Nov 5th, they’ll release another ranking/seeding of what they are thinking. I believe the announcement will be on ESPN2@noon(?).
My guess will be NDSU, MSU, um, Tarleton, ???????. I just don't see anything that NDSU, MSU or um have done since Oct 15 to change their rankings compared to the others........we’ll see.
One thing that changed is sdsu has lost twice since then, which makes MSU’s fcs loss look not as good. If the griz move ahead of us, that would be the only reason why. Otherwise I agree, it most likely will go ndsu, MSU, um as top 3.
If you only look at record. But if committee did that Griz would have been above Cats already. Committee will know SDSU QB and LB as well as others are out


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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by catatac » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:14 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:01 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:09 am
On October 15, the FCS Playoff Committee released the following Top 10 rankings/seeds………
1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. Tarleton State
4. Montana State
5. Montana
6. UC Davis
7. Lehigh
8. UND
9. Monmouth
10. Tennessee Tech

Tomorrow, W Nov 5th, they’ll release another ranking/seeding of what they are thinking. I believe the announcement will be on ESPN2@noon(?).
My guess will be NDSU, MSU, um, Tarleton, ???????. I just don't see anything that NDSU, MSU or um have done since Oct 15 to change their rankings compared to the others........we’ll see.
One thing that changed is sdsu has lost twice since then, which makes MSU’s fcs loss look not as good. If the griz move ahead of us, that would be the only reason why. Otherwise I agree, it most likely will go ndsu, MSU, um as top 3.
Yep, and it's interesting to note that whether the rankings are UM 2, MSU 3, or MSU 3 and UM 3.... it makes absolutely zero difference assuming they both win out until the brawl.


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Re: 11/3/25 Polls

Post by The MICKSTER » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:22 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:01 pm
The MICKSTER wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:09 am
On October 15, the FCS Playoff Committee released the following Top 10 rankings/seeds………
1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. Tarleton State
4. Montana State
5. Montana
6. UC Davis
7. Lehigh
8. UND
9. Monmouth
10. Tennessee Tech

Tomorrow, W Nov 5th, they’ll release another ranking/seeding of what they are thinking. I believe the announcement will be on ESPN2@noon(?).
My guess will be NDSU, MSU, um, Tarleton, ???????. I just don't see anything that NDSU, MSU or um have done since Oct 15 to change their rankings compared to the others........we’ll see.
One thing that changed is sdsu has lost twice since then, which makes MSU’s fcs loss look not as good. If the griz move ahead of us, that would be the only reason why. Otherwise I agree, it most likely will go ndsu, MSU, um as top 3.
Good Point. The SDSU loss to NDSU I don’t think hurts SDSU (ie. us) but the ISU loss sure does. Remember, UND lost to USD which hurts um somewhat.



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