How do Cats stack up against Griz

[OldGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

[bobcatfan123]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Friendly reminder: the game starts at noon. Don’t want your boys thinking it’s a second-half-only event again. Tragic pattern forming.

[BelligerentBobcat]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Both Cody Hawkins and Paul Wulff indicated in their conferences they thought MSU was better. What would they know though? Not like they’ve played both teams or anything. Heck, even Sammy Akem has MSU ranked higher. Makes you wonder if he ever played the game.

[wbtfg]

It's fun to talk about, but thankfully, we all get to find out in a few weeks.

[MrGoodKat]

My opinion:

QB: Cats

Ah Yat has a better arm than Lamson, but a lot of his production is schemed and you can see the offense bog down once they're out of their scripted stuff. He also isn't the runner that Lamson is and doesn't take care of the ball as well.

RB: Griz

Both teams have good backfields, but Gilman is the best RB in the conference; his production behind a poor OL is pretty incredible.

TE: Cats

The Cats are more diverse and talented at the position despite being younger, but I don't see the gap as being huge.

WR: Griz

Michael Wortham is the single best offensive player in the BSC right now, which gives UM the edge here for me.

OL: Cats

This one is easy.

DL: Cats

This one is easier.

LB: Cats

The Griz used to be the school that had all the in-state studs at linebacker; no longer. They aren't bad, but when the Cats can use Grebe, Taylor, and Daly, I think they're better.

CB: Cats

It's a pleasant surprise to me that this one is such an easy call; MSU's fleet of young corners have been awesome.

SAF: Cats

This is the closest to being a "Push" for me. However, Caden Dowler is the best player between either team and you only start two, so I give MSU the edge. Just look at Saturday-- turning and finding the ball for the PBU in coverage against one of the best receivers in the FCS.

[OldGriz]

It's fun to talk about, but thankfully, we all get to find out in a few weeks.

[BgCATfan]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Now do the playoff committee.

[OldGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Now do the playoff committee.

You mean those 11 university administrators? That small group of 11 administrators is pretty far removed from the game. But I gather the 11 administrators see things differently than the dozens FCS coaches and beat writers?

[tetoncat]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Now do the playoff committee.

You mean those 11 university administrators? That small group of 11 administrators is pretty far removed from the game. But I gather the 11 administrators see things differently than the dozens FCS coaches and beat writers?

Either they have been pretty accurate over the years, or the home field is worth much more than Vegas usually gives it.

[tdub]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Some savvy trolling by continuing to slide in the word “upset”. Usually you combine it with a point spread you pulled out of your a$$. The reason the pollsters and coaches (let’s be honest, interns) have them ranked ahead is due to the “0” in the loss column. Which is fine. Guarantee you swap OOC schedules and that wouldn’t be happening. The committee, yes 11 very interested administrators, that actually spends the time analyzing the teams, says it is not an upset. But you do so it’s the truth!!

[Catsrgrood]

Stop giving this dude the time of day. He’s getting exactly what he wants out of every response. He’s also an attorney by trade so he’s going to cherry pick stats and finesse facts to fit his narrative.

[MrGoodKat]

Stats are not the whole story, but I find this statistical comparison interesting.

Lamson and Ah Yat have each played 5 conference games. Here's their statistical comparison in those games.

Lamson: 78/112, 70% completion, 1174 yds, 10.5 ypa, 13 TD, 11.6 TD%, 0 INT, 0.0 INT%, 53 Rushes, 231 yds, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Ah Yat: 98/155, 63% completion, 1322 yds, 8.5 ypa, 8 TD, 5.2 TD%, 3 INT, 1.9 INT%, 28 Rushes, 46 yds, 1.6 YPC, 2 TD

In conference play, Ah Yat has thrown for more passing yards (though Lamson has more total offensive yards), but Lamson has bested him in virtually every other statistical category.

[tdub]

Stop giving this dude the time of day. He’s getting exactly what he wants out of every response. He’s also an attorney by trade so he’s going to cherry pick stats and finesse facts to fit his narrative.

Why? It’s a message board. I can have fun conversing with him. I like traffic on BN.

[bobcatfan123]

Stop giving this dude the time of day. He’s getting exactly what he wants out of every response. He’s also an attorney by trade so he’s going to cherry pick stats and finesse facts to fit his narrative.

Why? It’s a message board. I can have fun conversing with him. I like traffic on BN.

Yup. Old Griz seems like good people. A lil good natured smack talk to liven up this place

[MrGoodKat]

One more interesting comparison.

The Cats and Griz have both played 5 BSC games, they have both played 2 games at home and 3 on the road, and their collective opponents' records are an identical 18-27.

In those conference games, the Cats are +177 points in scoring differential, good for 35.4 PPG. Their smallest margin was the 17 point victory over CP.

In their conference games, the Griz are +79 points in scoring differential, good for 15.8 PPG. Their smallest margin was their 4 point victory over ISU.

[Catsrgrood]

Stop giving this dude the time of day. He’s getting exactly what he wants out of every response. He’s also an attorney by trade so he’s going to cherry pick stats and finesse facts to fit his narrative.

Why? It’s a message board. I can have fun conversing with him. I like traffic on BN.

To each their own I suppose. Im all for conversing and having some back and forth. I wish we had more here quite frankly.

Just not from trolls. The dudes a clown and it’s not exactly a good faith argument he’s even trying to have. He’s trolling, it brings nothing to the conversation. He’s going to bend whatever is out there to fit his point.
If the committee had the gris ahead of the Cats but the polls were the other way he’d be saying how dumb the media and coaches (interns) are and how the only one that matters is the committee.
I just don’t feel like it’s worth the effort to go back and forth, but here I am, secondarily spending time and effort addressing it.

[OldGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Some savvy trolling by continuing to slide in the word “upset”. Usually you combine it with a point spread you pulled out of your a$$. The reason the pollsters and coaches (let’s be honest, interns) have them ranked ahead is due to the “0” in the loss column. Which is fine. Guarantee you swap OOC schedules and that wouldn’t be happening. The committee, yes 11 very interested administrators, that actually spends the time analyzing the teams, says it is not an upset. But you do so it’s the truth!!

Good food for thought. Thank you. But may I ask — how do the Cats end up giving points in this game? In other words, are you predicting that the Cats will actually be the sportsbook (betting line) favorite in The Brawl? I guess I never envisioned any disagreement there. But that’s big news if you’re predicting the Griz will be underdogs at home.

[catscat]

You're trying to tell us they aren't. I'm pretty sure even the gris team believes they are and even if they don't, pretty sure Booby hawk will tell them they are. Heck, games almost 3 weeks away and he's probably shaking in his boots and can't sleep at night just thinking about it.

[OldGriz]

You're trying to tell us they aren't. I'm pretty sure even the gris team believes they are and even if they don't, pretty sure Booby hawk will tell them they are. Heck, games almost 3 weeks away and he's probably shaking in his boots and can't sleep at night just thinking about it.

Well, I don’t think I’m arguing out of a hole. Yours is the bolder assertion — that the higher-ranked team, playing at home, would be the underdog. Time will tell.

[seataccat]

How do the Cats stack up against Griz? There is always a possibility that the Cats could upset the Griz. But there’s a reason the FCS coaches and the FCS writers believe the Griz are better than the Cats. Granted, the majority of Bobcatnation believes it knows more than the coaches and beat writers. The Brawl will settle it and it’s gonna be fun.

Some savvy trolling by continuing to slide in the word “upset”. Usually you combine it with a point spread you pulled out of your a$$. The reason the pollsters and coaches (let’s be honest, interns) have them ranked ahead is due to the “0” in the loss column. Which is fine. Guarantee you swap OOC schedules and that wouldn’t be happening. The committee, yes 11 very interested administrators, that actually spends the time analyzing the teams, says it is not an upset. But you do so it’s the truth!!

Good food for thought. Thank you. But may I ask — how do the Cats end up giving points in this game? In other words, are you predicting that the Cats will actually be the sportsbook (betting line) favorite in The Brawl? I guess I never envisioned any disagreement there. But that’s big news if you’re predicting the Griz will be underdogs at home.

Whatever the line is the gris aren't going to be a 10 point favorite like you said in the other thread. If you're willing to stand behind that prediction I'll take that bet for as much as you're willing to lose.