How do Cats stack up against Griz

[HookedOnGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

[91catAlum]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

[91catAlum]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Here's a better angle. I'm 100% serious with this post.

The griz are 8-0 and the Cats just 6-2. Yet they are right next to each other in the polls, in fact the Cats were 1 spot ahead of the griz in the playoff selection committee pool a couple weeks ago.

How do you explain that? Why would anyone put a 6-2 team even with, or ahead of, an unbeaten team?

[BelligerentBobcat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

If you’re going to talk about SDSU without mentioning all their injuries, then you’re being intentionally dishonest. I realize that’s pretty par for the course for you, but cmon, be less obvious.

[PapaG]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

“If you take out your games against SDSU (with their starting QB and other starters still playing) and FBS national title contender Oregon, it’s the same schedule!”

Brilliant analysis, PaytonLives. I feel dumb even responding to it, but here we are.

[tetoncat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

I think the Griz offense is real nice. Although they did that today against a D that everyone of us but one person knew was bad. Still kudos for putting up numbers. They’re legit.

I say all that to ask the question; have the griz seen a defense like MSU’s?

MSU’s defense has allowed 75 points (9.37 per game) during regulation in eight games vs FCS opponents. UM (24.1) is allowing about 14 more ppg than MSU.

MSU’s defense is allowing 272.25 yards per game and 4.26 yards per play vs FCS opponents. UM is allowing 120 more ypg and nearly 1.5 more ypp than MSU.

Offensively, MSU is averaging 475.6 yards per game vs FCS opponents and 7.1 per play. Both of those numbers top UM, who a lot people consider the top offense in the BSC. The Griz have a slight edge in scoring. 40.6-38.8

Those are just stats. I’m not going to say who’s better but MSU is slightly outperforming UM offensively and by a significant margin defensively. That doesn’t mean they’ll win just that they’ve been playing statistically better.

Agree with this Tom. I think the griz offense is nice for sure. But I’ve been curious why the talk seems like they’re incredible? They’re nice. But what do they do so much better than the Cats?

They have 3 players who lead the stats. When individuals have those stats they get more accolades and it leads to discussions about the offense as a whole. CATS have had different leaders each game it seems so it comes across as players having a good game and not as much focus on whole offense.

[HookedOnGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND - 87
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1315/8 =-164.3

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

[SparkCat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1228/8 =-153.5 avg

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

Yo Hooked just a heads up, you didn’t add a value for UND, however, included them into your average. I’m sure it doesn’t sway it very much, but I’d say at least 10-15 added to your average.

[HookedOnGriz]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1228/8 =-153.5 avg

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

Yo Hooked just a heads up, you didn’t add a value for UND, however, included them into your average. I’m sure it doesn’t sway it very much, but I’d say at least 10-15 added to your average.

My bad! I’ll fix that now. Brings it to 1315/8 = 164.3

[grizzh8r]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1228/8 =-153.5 avg

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

Yo Hooked just a heads up, you didn’t add a value for UND, however, included them into your average. I’m sure it doesn’t sway it very much, but I’d say at least 10-15 added to your average.

#grismath

[PapaG]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND - 87
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1315/8 =-164.3

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

“Remove your automatic loss on the road against one of the best FBS programs and your schedule is weaker” is just a dumb take.

8 home games for the Gris as well compared to 7 for the Bobcats. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen.

[onceacat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Thats absurd. South Dakota State was the consensus #2 team until they got hit with the injury bug.

Yes, if you throw out the actual games played against Oregon, SDSU, and Central Washington, the teams look pretty similar. Theres also the road game against a playoff bubble team in Flagstaff.

Lets compare best wins:

Oregon > UND (by A LOT)
SDSU > Idaho
NAU > Sac State
Sac State > Idaho State

And then at the bottom of the schedule:

UNC > Central Washington

Theres a reason that Massey has the Cats at the #4 SOS while the Pandas are at 25. And the discrepancy is going to get significantly larger because the gris finish against Portland State (< Mercyhurst or San Diego) and EWU. While the Cats still have a top 10 matchup on the road against Davis.


SMH.

[onceacat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

Pretty self explanatory.

OOC: Oregon, healthy sdsu, Mercyhurst, san Diego. Conference: UCDavis, at NAU.
OOC: D2 school, und, Indiana state, sacred heart high. Conference: home vs Idaho, Portland State.

Be honest now... which group of teams would you rather play?

PapaG said the Griz have had one of the weakest schedules he has ever seen. I’m saying quite literally the only reason the Cats SOS is high is because of Oregon. If you look at just FCS games between Cats and Griz my point is spot on:

Cats:

SDSU - 98
San Diego - 201
Mercyhurst - 236
E wash - 185
NAU - 150
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
UNC - 200
Total - 1440/8 =-180 avg

Griz:

UND
Indy St - 186
Idaho - 139
Idaho St - 180
Cal Poly - 190
Sacred Heart - 210
Sac St - 132
Weber St - 191
Total - 1228/8 =-153.5 avg

This quite literally shows the poster is wrong, that the Griz actually have had a tougher schedule so far than the Cats. So if the Griz have the weakest schedule ever, then the Cats do too.

There are only 14 teams in all of FCS with 2 ranked wins or more. Griz are one of those teams too.

I think the Cats look great. They are going to be tough to beat for anyone. But trying to make it sound like the Cats have had some gauntlet of a schedule is absolutely laughable.

Yo Hooked just a heads up, you didn’t add a value for UND, however, included them into your average. I’m sure it doesn’t sway it very much, but I’d say at least 10-15 added to your average.

#grismath

LOL, yeah, using those numbers, you get 175 for the Pandas.

Now add in UND, you get closer to 167...which is a LITTLE bit better. But add in Oregon at about 6 and Central Washington at 250 (should probably be more like 300) and the Cats go to 160 and the gris go to 185.

Hes right though: If you throw out MSUs toughest game AND UMs easiest game, the schedules are pretty close.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure!

[ClowderUp]

As of about 5pm MDT yesterday, none of this matters. SoS doesn't matter. Off season scheduling doesn't matter. All the the normal analysis on here related to contingencies doesn't matter. PlayerReps idiotic trolling doesn't matter. None of it.

The winner of the Brawl will get the #2 and home field to Nashville. The loser will have to travel to either Fargo as the 4/5 or to Missoula/Bozeman as the 3. Neither option is good for either fanbase if you've made plans for Nashville already.

End of story.

[TomCat88]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

In other words, MSU has already played an offense much better than UM’s.

Better and incomparable. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like UM’s. Lmk who’s offense has been like UM’s.

[catapult]

This year’s Cat team is a much different animal than last year’s dominant defense. We are playing complimentary football at a very high rate. It’s getting old with the “Gris offense is unstoppable” hype we keep hearing from the Griz faithful. Gilman goes as their OL goes, Wortham goes as Ah Yat goes and Ah Yat goes as their OL goes. The Cats DL is much, much better than the Griz OL. Cats have superior depth & skill on the defensive side of the ball at all levels with minimal drop off (if any) at all 11 positions. When your backup safety is a Cat transfer that was 5th on the depth chart, it kinda tells you all you need to know. We will boat race the Griz this year by 3 scores.

[tetoncat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Really? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.

How did the Cats do?

Pandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.

Wortham would start for Oregon, or at very least make 2nd string.

Then why didn't he go there as a transfer.

[onceacat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Really? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.

How did the Cats do?

Pandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.

Wortham would start for Oregon, or at very least make 2nd string.

Then why didn't he go there as a transfer.

Pandas offered him more NIL money.

Better academics at UM.

Cuter girls in Zootown.

Better chance to win a national championship.

More NFL exposure and contacts through Booby.

Who WOULDNT go to UM under those circumstances?

[tetoncat]

How do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.

Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...

Griz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Did I imagine playing Oregon?

Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.

Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”

I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.

100% dead serious with this comment. If you take out your Oregon game, the cats have had a similar or even weaker schedule than the Griz. Your NAU ranked win looks bad now especially after Idaho just beat NAU. Your SDSU loss looks even worse now. Mercyhurst. San Diego. Seriously please educate me on how your schedule is so much better than the Griz.

If you’re going to talk about SDSU without mentioning all their injuries, then you’re being intentionally dishonest. I realize that’s pretty par for the course for you, but cmon, be less obvious.

And Cats had injury to reshuffle o line, new OC and DC, and lost 2 starters on d vs Oregon. So Cats not full strength when list in 2 OT, SDSU is now much less than full strength and it is showing.

[Catsrgrood]

As of about 5pm MDT yesterday, none of this matters. SoS doesn't matter. Off season scheduling doesn't matter. All the the normal analysis on here related to contingencies doesn't matter. PlayerReps idiotic trolling doesn't matter. None of it.

The winner of the Brawl will get the #2 and home field to Nashville. The loser will have to travel to either Fargo as the 4/5 or to Missoula/Bozeman as the 3. Neither option is good for either fanbase if you've made plans for Nashville already.

End of story.

This.

Yesterday changed a lot of things. Assuming the next two weeks go as we think they could/should, it really just comes down to:

Winner of Cat/gris will undoubtedly be #2, and the loser will be 3, 4, maybe 5 depending on how close the game is and how a few other games go.

SOS just took a back seat in the conversation, especially since by the end of the season there won’t be THAT big of a discrepancy between the two anyway.