Montana State put up 532 yards today and did not use Wortham at all!TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Really? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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How did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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I have 88 yds rushing vs Weber's defense this year...TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
And...i think the Cat's HAVE seen a comparable offense: Idaho State.
Yes, i have blue and gold colored glasses, but at the end if the day i'll ALWAYS bet on a great to defense to overwhelm a prolific offense. This year's defense is special.
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Pandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Yeah. You are not a troll..OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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You’re quite good at cherry picking the low hanging fruit. You should definitely try your hand in politics.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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I think the Griz offense is real nice. Although they did that today against a D that everyone of us but one person knew was bad. Still kudos for putting up numbers. They’re legit.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
I say all that to ask the question; have the griz seen a defense like MSU’s?
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MSU’s defense has allowed 75 points (9.37 per game) during regulation in eight games vs FCS opponents. UM (24.1) is allowing about 14 more ppg than MSU.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:36 amI think the Griz offense is real nice. Although they did that today against a D that everyone of us but one person knew was bad. Still kudos for putting up numbers. They’re legit.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
I say all that to ask the question; have the griz seen a defense like MSU’s?
MSU’s defense is allowing 272.25 yards per game and 4.26 yards per play vs FCS opponents. UM is allowing 120 more ypg and nearly 1.5 more ypp than MSU.
Offensively, MSU is averaging 475.6 yards per game vs FCS opponents and 7.1 per play. Both of those numbers top UM (471.3/6.5) who a lot people consider the top offense in the BSC. The Griz have a slight edge in scoring. 40.6-38.8
Those are just stats. I’m not going to say who’s better but MSU is slightly outperforming UM offensively and by a significant margin defensively. That doesn’t mean they’ll win just that they’ve been playing statistically better.
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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz
Agree with this Tom. I think the griz offense is nice for sure. But I’ve been curious why the talk seems like they’re incredible? They’re nice. But what do they do so much better than the Cats?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:11 amMSU’s defense has allowed 75 points (9.37 per game) during regulation in eight games vs FCS opponents. UM (24.1) is allowing about 14 more ppg than MSU.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:36 amI think the Griz offense is real nice. Although they did that today against a D that everyone of us but one person knew was bad. Still kudos for putting up numbers. They’re legit.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
I say all that to ask the question; have the griz seen a defense like MSU’s?
MSU’s defense is allowing 272.25 yards per game and 4.26 yards per play vs FCS opponents. UM is allowing 120 more ypg and nearly 1.5 more ypp than MSU.
Offensively, MSU is averaging 475.6 yards per game vs FCS opponents and 7.1 per play. Both of those numbers top UM, who a lot people consider the top offense in the BSC. The Griz have a slight edge in scoring. 40.6-38.8
Those are just stats. I’m not going to say who’s better but MSU is slightly outperforming UM offensively and by a significant margin defensively. That doesn’t mean they’ll win just that they’ve been playing statistically better.
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I think their offense is incredible. I think MSU’s is just as, if not more, incredible.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:38 amAgree with this Tom. I think the griz offense is nice for sure. But I’ve been curious why the talk seems like they’re incredible? They’re nice. But what do they do so much better than the Cats?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:11 amMSU’s defense has allowed 75 points (9.37 per game) during regulation in eight games vs FCS opponents. UM (24.1) is allowing about 14 more ppg than MSU.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:36 amI think the Griz offense is real nice. Although they did that today against a D that everyone of us but one person knew was bad. Still kudos for putting up numbers. They’re legit.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
I say all that to ask the question; have the griz seen a defense like MSU’s?
MSU’s defense is allowing 272.25 yards per game and 4.26 yards per play vs FCS opponents. UM is allowing 120 more ypg and nearly 1.5 more ypp than MSU.
Offensively, MSU is averaging 475.6 yards per game vs FCS opponents and 7.1 per play. Both of those numbers top UM, who a lot people consider the top offense in the BSC. The Griz have a slight edge in scoring. 40.6-38.8
Those are just stats. I’m not going to say who’s better but MSU is slightly outperforming UM offensively and by a significant margin defensively. That doesn’t mean they’ll win just that they’ve been playing statistically better.
Defensively, you can just watch MSU and be blown away. It’s pretty flawless. Even when teams score TDs before the fourth quarter it’s very difficult for them and it’s only happened three times in the last 7 games. Two of those (vs ISU and NAU) took about 10 plays to get the final 30 or so yards. In that span I think there’s only 1 or 2 TDs that didn’t have a 4th down conversion. It’s a lot of work to score on MSU’s defense.
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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz
Obviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:05 pmDid I imagine playing Oregon?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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In three conference road games MSU has only allowed 10 points before the fourth quarter. MSU is averaging 41 points per game in those same games. Allowing 11.3.
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Wortham would start for Oregon, or at very least make 2nd string.onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:53 pmPandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Haha! Spoken like a truly objective and informed fan. Have you seen Oregon’s skill players play? This comment is ridiculous.1890Griz wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:31 amWortham would start for Oregon, or at very least make 2nd string.onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:53 pmPandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz
In other words, MSU has already played an offense much better than UM’s.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:06 amObviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:05 pmDid I imagine playing Oregon?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz
Then the statement should have been “The Bobcats have already seen an offense better than Montana’s.”TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:06 amObviously, but Oregon is a top FBS team and that game is hard to use as a comparison because of the size and strength of their offensive line is completely different than UM. Plus, MSU was no match for that offense. UM’s offense isn’t comparable to Oregon or in other words msu hasn’t seen an offense like that.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:05 pmDid I imagine playing Oregon?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
I’m still unsure about the Gris offense in general. One of the weakest schedules I’ve ever seen and they somehow got shut out by Cal-Poly in the first half at home.
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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz
Nearly every team the gris have played has had some measure of success defending that offense. Poly in the first half, Sacred Heart in the 2nd and 3rd, the 3rd qtr vs Weber. There will be a moment in the Cat gris where they hit a big play. How the Cats D responds will decide the game. Will they let momentum take over and give 2 or 3 quick scores giving the gris a big qtr? Or will they be the anaconda they’ve been pretty much all this year and tighten up just a bit more.
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Then why isn’t he there? He hit the portal for a better school and you’re telling me he picked UM over a top 10 FBS school where he would have had the chance to start? He’s a top level FCS player and definitely worthy of the Payton consideration, but a top 10 FBS starter? No.1890Griz wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:31 amWortham would start for Oregon, or at very least make 2nd string.onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:53 pmPandas aren't Oregon. Wortham wouldn't make the Oregon practice squad.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...
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Much better than the P4 school they played the following week. Anyone who understands the game of football would have already known this.OldGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:11 pmHow did the Cats do?onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:09 pmReally? Cause the Oregon offense was pretty good.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:40 pmGriz just had 560 yards without hardly using Wortham. MSU hasn’t seen an offense like that.FA_Q_M wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 9:04 pmHow do the Cats stack up against the Griz? Very well I'd say.
Don't think the gris offense has seen a defense like MSU's and the Cat's have played against better defenses than UM. Plain and simple.
Id say the only advantage UM has is the location of the game. We'll see if defense travels...