How do Cats stack up against Griz

[Go Scats Go]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

especially after they lose and drop out of top 8 and host week 1 of the playoffs. please santa! in lamson and davis we trust.

If the only game UM loses is to msu, they won't drop out of the top 5... unless it's really ugly

[CodyCat]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

[CodyCat]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

especially after they lose and drop out of top 8 and host week 1 of the playoffs. please santa! in lamson and davis we trust.

If the only game UM loses is to msu, they won't drop out of the top 5... unless it's really ugly

And UND beats both DSU’s.

[MSU01]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

especially after they lose and drop out of top 8 and host week 1 of the playoffs. please santa! in lamson and davis we trust.

If both teams win out until Nov. 22 I think worst case scenario for the Cat/Griz loser is the 6 seed. Not a chance either falls out of the Top 8 barring a major collapse.

[TomCat88]

ISU was a bad matchup for the Griz and good matchup for the Cats. So that means the Griz are a bad matchup for the Cats.

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

Great analysis. Thanks for your input. Nagging injuries and fatigue have never impacted a game before.

[TomCat88]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

Great analysis. Thanks for your input. Nagging injuries and fatigue have never impacted a game before.

I have been thinking about this since I first saw UM was having its open date on week 1. I wonder if they’re using a lot of backups or are trying to manage it in some way.

[catatac]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

Great analysis. Thanks for your input. Nagging injuries and fatigue have never impacted a game before.

Yep. I think not having a bye all season is a fairly significant factor. Fatigue, mounting injuries, etc. We'll see how these next three games go for both teams, but I know the Griz have already lost some key players to injury whereas the Cats, knock on wood, have remained incredibly healthy this season.

[OldGriz]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

Great analysis. Thanks for your input. Nagging injuries and fatigue have never impacted a game before.

Yep. I think not having a bye all season is a fairly significant factor. Fatigue, mounting injuries, etc. We'll see how these next three games go for both teams, but I know the Griz have already lost some key players to injury whereas the Cats, knock on wood, have remained incredibly healthy this season.

Wait what — I thought the Griz schedule was easy.

[tetoncat]

ISU was a bad matchup for the Griz and good matchup for the Cats. So that means the Griz are a bad matchup for the Cats.

Why

[TomCat88]

ISU was a bad matchup for the Griz and good matchup for the Cats. So that means the Griz are a bad matchup for the Cats.

Why

I should say, I was told ISU was a bad matchup for the Griz (I don't know why) and ISU nearly beat them. Then I was told ISU was a good matchup for the Cats (I didn't know why) and MSU blew them out. So based on those two things (transitive properties?) proving to be correct, then the Griz must be a bad matchup for the Cats.

[84CatGrad]

The 'Cats under Vigen have laid an egg twice in Missoula, whereas Choate took less potent teams into Missoula and won. Why?

[thefrank1]

Choate's style was like Bobby's. More emotion based so it matched up better.

[msu_agfan]

The 'Cats under Vigen have laid an egg twice in Missoula, whereas Choate took less potent teams into Missoula and won. Why?

I'm not a close follower of football, but i believe the answer is "stitt"

[TomCat88]

The 'Cats under Vigen have laid an egg twice in Missoula, whereas Choate took less potent teams into Missoula and won. Why?

Griz weren’t very good. 2021 and 2023 were the best two teams UM has fielded in at least ten years, especially on defense. Probably mostly a coincidence.

Both teams have made big mistakes in their losses since 2019. Fumbling on the goal line, snapping ball over punters head, miscue on fg attempt, blown coverage. The losing team has played poorly.

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

It’s worth mentioning that Cat-Griz will be UM’s 12th straight game. Three months without a single week off is tough to deal with, especially if they continue to have to play their starters late in games. Obviously the Griz will be hyped up for the game, but fatigue can play a big role in this one.

That will literally mean nothing come game day.

Great analysis. Thanks for your input. Nagging injuries and fatigue have never impacted a game before.

Yep. I think not having a bye all season is a fairly significant factor. Fatigue, mounting injuries, etc. We'll see how these next three games go for both teams, but I know the Griz have already lost some key players to injury whereas the Cats, knock on wood, have remained incredibly healthy this season.

Wait what — I thought the Griz schedule was easy.

The Griz schedule is incredibly soft from a wins and losses standpoint, but the games are still 60 minutes (especially because the Griz can’t shut the door on teams and rest their starters). Gilman, Worthham, and Ah Yat are the ball carrier or receiver on over 60% of the Griz offensive plays. That’s a heavy workload to sustain without a break.

[smith427]

Colter Nuanez's latest hyperfixation on "maybe the griz having a bad offensive line is actually the silver bullet to defeating NDSU" is getting pretty old for me. Like I get the that the cats haven't been able to topple them by largely replicating their style, but the idea that the griz are on a better track by having a couple explosive offensive players instead of a competent O and D line is stretching things way too far. That's literally what every non-Dakota/Montana team has been trying since covid. Get a couple explosive transfers and hope that they can overcome the fact that you don't have access to good linemen (see UIW and Idaho until this year). These teams do well and then get stomped the second they see a team from MT/Dakota because that style can't hold a candle to dominant line play.

Colter is a very smart guy and I really like his analysis, but I couldn't disagree more on this point that he keeps hammering.

[lutecat]

Colter Nuanez's latest hyperfixation on "maybe the griz having a bad offensive line is actually the silver bullet to defeating NDSU" is getting pretty old for me. Like I get the that the cats haven't been able to topple them by largely replicating their style, but the idea that the griz are on a better track by having a couple explosive offensive players instead of a competent O and D line is stretching things way too far. That's literally what every non-Dakota/Montana team has been trying since covid. Get a couple explosive transfers and hope that they can overcome the fact that you don't have access to good linemen (see UIW and Idaho until this year). These teams do well and then get stomped the second they see a team from MT/Dakota because that style can't hold a candle to dominant line play.

Colter is a very smart guy and I really like his analysis, but I couldn't disagree more on this point that he keeps hammering.

I mean he has to keep the griz faithful engaged somehow even if its feeding them what they try to convince themselves.

[TomCat88]

Colter Nuanez's latest hyperfixation on "maybe the griz having a bad offensive line is actually the silver bullet to defeating NDSU" is getting pretty old for me. Like I get the that the cats haven't been able to topple them by largely replicating their style, but the idea that the griz are on a better track by having a couple explosive offensive players instead of a competent O and D line is stretching things way too far. That's literally what every non-Dakota/Montana team has been trying since covid. Get a couple explosive transfers and hope that they can overcome the fact that you don't have access to good linemen (see UIW and Idaho until this year). These teams do well and then get stomped the second they see a team from MT/Dakota because that style can't hold a candle to dominant line play.

Colter is a very smart guy and I really like his analysis, but I couldn't disagree more on this point that he keeps hammering.

Ndsu has lost 14 games since 2017. They had two off years in that stretch. 2020 and 2023. They lost 7 of the 14 games those seasons. Of the seven losses during good years, five were to SDSU. One to USD in 2024 and one to Colorado in 2024.

SDSU and USD both play the ndsu brand of football. I’m not sure how bad the OL and DL at Colorado were but they did have some explosive players. Hunter and Shaduer Sanders being a couple. In that game, NDSU shut down Colorado’s run game but allowed 445 yards passing.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Colter Nuanez's latest hyperfixation on "maybe the griz having a bad offensive line is actually the silver bullet to defeating NDSU" is getting pretty old for me. Like I get the that the cats haven't been able to topple them by largely replicating their style, but the idea that the griz are on a better track by having a couple explosive offensive players instead of a competent O and D line is stretching things way too far. That's literally what every non-Dakota/Montana team has been trying since covid. Get a couple explosive transfers and hope that they can overcome the fact that you don't have access to good linemen (see UIW and Idaho until this year). These teams do well and then get stomped the second they see a team from MT/Dakota because that style can't hold a candle to dominant line play.

Colter is a very smart guy and I really like his analysis, but I couldn't disagree more on this point that he keeps hammering.

It’s funny because he has talked about how they could try to emulate what EWU is doing and play like that, but later he’ll talk about how EWU always lost in the playoffs because of the cold weather in Cheney and how that offense doesn’t work in the playoffs. I don’t think I need to draw the correlation there, but maaaaaybe I do lol.

In fairness to Colter, he has said that UM needs to improve their line play significantly. I think most of what he’s trying to get at is perhaps that style of play with good line play could beat NDSU, whereas trying to beat NDSU at their own game hasn’t been working. I would argue that 1) saying what we’re doing here is trying to beat NDSU at their own game is a gross oversimplification of what’s going on, 2) SDSU has beaten NDSU with a similar game style multiple times, and 3) the brothers and Schmidt have all said that MSU was the better team last season and should have won, so it’s pretty hard to say MSU can’t do it. What also should be recognized, is that MSU clearly wants to pass the ball more than they did with Tommy at QB, so basing the offensive style on what we’ve done for the prior years with different personnel is slightly foolish.