February is a long time to wait, especially when the portal will have opened and closed by that time (players in the portal already being recruited by other teams), High School recruiting will be affected, and Spring ball is right around the corner, not to mention trying to put a staff together.St George wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:48 amMy source told me that OSU won't make an announcement until after the Super Bowl.wbtfg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:50 pmWould Vigen leave this team mid season? Would osu be willing to wait until msu is out of the playoffs?
I dont see any of these things being true, but college football is the wild west where anything can happen.
Also, maybe most importantly, is OSU a good job where a good coach can be successful? Youre in the shadow of oregon. Do they have a NIL treasure chest?
That said, they may be able to offer enough money where none of that matters.
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There is a zero percent chance that any FBS program that knows it has an opening in October will wait until weeks after the transfer portal closes to hire its new head coach.AFCAT wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:08 amFebruary is a long time to wait, especially when the portal will have opened and closed by that time (players in the portal already being recruited by other teams), High School recruiting will be affected, and Spring ball is right around the corner, not to mention trying to put a staff together.St George wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:48 amMy source told me that OSU won't make an announcement until after the Super Bowl.wbtfg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:50 pmWould Vigen leave this team mid season? Would osu be willing to wait until msu is out of the playoffs?
I dont see any of these things being true, but college football is the wild west where anything can happen.
Also, maybe most importantly, is OSU a good job where a good coach can be successful? Youre in the shadow of oregon. Do they have a NIL treasure chest?
That said, they may be able to offer enough money where none of that matters.
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St George has a bad source. I've heard they are going to wait until after Spring Ball.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:14 amThere is a zero percent chance that any FBS program that knows it has an opening in October will wait until weeks after the transfer portal closes to hire its new head coach.AFCAT wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:08 amFebruary is a long time to wait, especially when the portal will have opened and closed by that time (players in the portal already being recruited by other teams), High School recruiting will be affected, and Spring ball is right around the corner, not to mention trying to put a staff together.St George wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:48 amMy source told me that OSU won't make an announcement until after the Super Bowl.wbtfg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:50 pmWould Vigen leave this team mid season? Would osu be willing to wait until msu is out of the playoffs?
I dont see any of these things being true, but college football is the wild west where anything can happen.
Also, maybe most importantly, is OSU a good job where a good coach can be successful? Youre in the shadow of oregon. Do they have a NIL treasure chest?
That said, they may be able to offer enough money where none of that matters.
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Personally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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This isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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I think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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I think Eck probably would have better opportunities than OSU. Wisconsin is dead last in the Big 10 and everything points to Fickell being out at the end of the season. I'm sure Eck would love to go back to his alma mater and now that he is a G5 coach and not FCS I think he would have a good shot.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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I'm rooting for Great Value Choate to get the OSU job.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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Whoah whoah.coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:43 pmI'm rooting for Great Value Choate to get the OSU job.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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I wouldn’t doubt it. Just saying if I’m OSU, that would be one of my targets.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:32 pmI think Eck probably would have better opportunities than OSU. Wisconsin is dead last in the Big 10 and everything points to Fickell being out at the end of the season. I'm sure Eck would love to go back to his alma mater and now that he is a G5 coach and not FCS I think he would have a good shot.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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My two cents is I think Vigen can do better for a first FBS HC gig than where football isn't the primary sport (it's baseball at OSU and it's not close)
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What I am about to throw out will never happen BUT…..
Vigen stays after building a powerhouse here. We get an invite to the PAC _____. We keep playing our rival and defeat them very soundly year after year. They are upset that because we are in an upper division the games aren’t fair.
Blah, blah, blah.
Vigen stays after building a powerhouse here. We get an invite to the PAC _____. We keep playing our rival and defeat them very soundly year after year. They are upset that because we are in an upper division the games aren’t fair.
Blah, blah, blah.
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Good takes. Spot on.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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I swear I got stuck in some bizarro world.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:01 pmGood takes. Spot on.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:16 pmI think he can do more with less. He’s also got the personality that can sell losses and building better. Honestly getting Idaho to where it was, was a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not saying he’s necessarily better than Vigen, but I think he’s an easier sell for a struggling program.tetoncat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:07 pmThis isn't directed at you just a general thought. What is the allure of Eck. Was building Idaho but they still were not a top 5 program. Wins games they shouldn't but also loses games he shouldn't. Took some big losses against top programs. Seems like a good salesman but not sure I see the results a program that thinks they are top of FBS conference would want.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:29 amPersonally, if I were OSU and knowing where that team is at, I'd rather hire Jason Eck than Vigen. That's not really a diss on Vigen as much as it is high praise for Eck, and just knowing that certain types are better for rebuilding jobs than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Vigen wanted OSU, probably be more surprised if they wanted him.
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My source may have said they won't announce until after the Superbowl so that I worry less about them poaching Vigen. As for his credibility, he has a box at OSU and every game the Athletic Director makes a point to come to his box and discuss a few things.coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:16 amSt George has a bad source. I've heard they are going to wait until after Spring Ball.MSU01 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:14 amThere is a zero percent chance that any FBS program that knows it has an opening in October will wait until weeks after the transfer portal closes to hire its new head coach.AFCAT wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:08 amFebruary is a long time to wait, especially when the portal will have opened and closed by that time (players in the portal already being recruited by other teams), High School recruiting will be affected, and Spring ball is right around the corner, not to mention trying to put a staff together.St George wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:48 amMy source told me that OSU won't make an announcement until after the Super Bowl.wbtfg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:50 pmWould Vigen leave this team mid season? Would osu be willing to wait until msu is out of the playoffs?
I dont see any of these things being true, but college football is the wild west where anything can happen.
Also, maybe most importantly, is OSU a good job where a good coach can be successful? Youre in the shadow of oregon. Do they have a NIL treasure chest?
That said, they may be able to offer enough money where none of that matters.
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Re: Vigen Oregon State rumors.
Mendenhall (PNW recruiter and a methodical builder) and Avalos (experience and PNW recruiter) are the leaders in the OSU clubhouse right now. Mannion would be a perfect candidate in 3-4 years with more coaching experience.
One problem is the NIL is still up in the air for the Beavs - not sure how you can hire a coach when you can't give him his recruiting (salary) forecast. Their recruiting class will not help either. Strangely, they play Wazzu twice in November. Can smell the smoke here in Austin.
Eck and Neuheisel are interesting candidates. Both have great momentum.
Robin Hauck's father's name is being tossed around Corvallis. I'm sure the amazing comeback to beat Cal-Poly has something to do with that.
If I'm a betting man, both Vigen and Robin's dad stay for the remainder of the season, which is exactly what we want. Vigen would be crazy to step on the Beaver train with all of the weakness and what he is building here.
One problem is the NIL is still up in the air for the Beavs - not sure how you can hire a coach when you can't give him his recruiting (salary) forecast. Their recruiting class will not help either. Strangely, they play Wazzu twice in November. Can smell the smoke here in Austin.
Eck and Neuheisel are interesting candidates. Both have great momentum.
Robin Hauck's father's name is being tossed around Corvallis. I'm sure the amazing comeback to beat Cal-Poly has something to do with that.
If I'm a betting man, both Vigen and Robin's dad stay for the remainder of the season, which is exactly what we want. Vigen would be crazy to step on the Beaver train with all of the weakness and what he is building here.
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Absolutely no HC is leaving his current team until the season is over.PortlandCat90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:13 pmMendenhall (PNW recruiter and a methodical builder) and Avalos (experience and PNW recruiter) are the leaders in the OSU clubhouse right now. Mannion would be a perfect candidate in 3-4 years with more coaching experience.
One problem is the NIL is still up in the air for the Beavs - not sure how you can hire a coach when you can't give him his recruiting (salary) forecast. Their recruiting class will not help either. Strangely, they play Wazzu twice in November. Can smell the smoke here in Austin.
Eck and Neuheisel are interesting candidates. Both have great momentum.
Robin Hauck's father's name is being tossed around Corvallis. I'm sure the amazing comeback to beat Cal-Poly has something to do with that.
If I'm a betting man, both Vigen and Robin's dad stay for the remainder of the season, which is exactly what we want. Vigen would be crazy to step on the Beaver train with all of the weakness and what he is building here.
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Just added 7 tackles to his all time BSC tackle tally.PortlandCat90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:13 pmMendenhall (PNW recruiter and a methodical builder) and Avalos (experience and PNW recruiter) are the leaders in the OSU clubhouse right now. Mannion would be a perfect candidate in 3-4 years with more coaching experience.
One problem is the NIL is still up in the air for the Beavs - not sure how you can hire a coach when you can't give him his recruiting (salary) forecast. Their recruiting class will not help either. Strangely, they play Wazzu twice in November. Can smell the smoke here in Austin.
Eck and Neuheisel are interesting candidates. Both have great momentum.
Robin Hauck's father's name is being tossed around Corvallis. I'm sure the amazing comeback to beat Cal-Poly has something to do with that.
If I'm a betting man, both Vigen and Robin's dad stay for the remainder of the season, which is exactly what we want. Vigen would be crazy to step on the Beaver train with all of the weakness and what he is building here.
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I know it is beating a dead horse but it bothers me every time I have to hear that Robby Hauck is the BSC career leader in tackles. While I understand that tackles was not an official state in the BSC until 2000, a simple comparison shows what a joke this is:
Robby Hauck, UM 2018-2022; Games played 53; solo 204; assists 278; Total Tackles 482.
Kirk Timmer, MSU 1983-1986; Games Played 47*; Total Tackles 518.
* 36 more tackles in at least 6 less game, but likely more because he missed at least one or two games in 1985 and 1986, and it is not clear that the MSU record book includes the three playoff games in 1984.
It is even more impressive considering he played with Jim Kalafat in 1983 who was a tacking machine (202 tackles in '82 and 30 in one game in '83) (along with Fellows, Sikora, Wilks, Burt, Lane during these years etc).
Robby Hauck, UM 2018-2022; Games played 53; solo 204; assists 278; Total Tackles 482.
Kirk Timmer, MSU 1983-1986; Games Played 47*; Total Tackles 518.
* 36 more tackles in at least 6 less game, but likely more because he missed at least one or two games in 1985 and 1986, and it is not clear that the MSU record book includes the three playoff games in 1984.
It is even more impressive considering he played with Jim Kalafat in 1983 who was a tacking machine (202 tackles in '82 and 30 in one game in '83) (along with Fellows, Sikora, Wilks, Burt, Lane during these years etc).
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The only situation in my life in which I ever hear anyone mention Robby Hauck is here on Bobcat Nation. Maybe if everyone here could get over it and stop bringing him up all the time we wouldn't get annoyed by the stats anymore!doebrmnn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 4:09 pmI know it is beating a dead horse but it bothers me every time I have to hear that Robby Hauck is the BSC career leader in tackles. While I understand that tackles was not an official state in the BSC until 2000, a simple comparison shows what a joke this is:
Robby Hauck, UM 2018-2022; Games played 53; solo 204; assists 278; Total Tackles 482.
Kirk Timmer, MSU 1983-1986; Games Played 47*; Total Tackles 518.
* 36 more tackles in at least 6 less game, but likely more because he missed at least one or two games in 1985 and 1986, and it is not clear that the MSU record book includes the three playoff games in 1984.
It is even more impressive considering he played with Jim Kalafat in 1983 who was a tacking machine (202 tackles in '82 and 30 in one game in '83) (along with Fellows, Sikora, Wilks, Burt, Lane during these years etc).