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Re: At NAU

Post by ClowderUp » Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:55 am

PapaG wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:51 am
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Opening Line has Cats over NAU by 7.5
Bobcats are up to 9.5 point favorites, O/U is 56.5

Fuzzy Pigs are 17.5 point favorites over ISU Spuds, O/U 64.5

I watched the first half of the PSU NAU game, PSU had troubles tackling in the first half.
I'll take the cats to cover at 9.5 but if it gets to 10.5 I'd have to think about it. I'm definitely taking the the under though. Wouldn't be surprised to see the game end something like 24-14.
I’m going for a simple $50 steak parlay with Bobcats to cover at -9.5 and Gris don’t cover the +17.5 against ISU on the road.
There would be plenty of wealthy folks if they always took the gris to not cover over the years.



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Re: At NAU

Post by iaafan » Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:55 am

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I think this will be very difficult game where things go wrong and we need to show what we are made of. I think we eke it out 35-31.
If our defense gives up 31 in regulation, I will print this post and eat it.
We’ve allowed 27 points in the last four games. Yet we’re going to allow 31 in one game. Unless NAU gets some defensive and special teams scores, or plays to set up scores, that’s not happening.



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Re: At NAU

Post by iaafan » Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:01 am

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Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:49 am
I don’t see a prediction thread, but this is the type of raid game you win by at least 2 TDs if you’re a national title contender.

NAU 24
Bobcats 45
So if we’re up 35-10 in the fourth quarter and nau scores two garbage time touchdowns, then we’re not a title contender?



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Re: At NAU

Post by CatBlitz » Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:07 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:01 am
PapaG wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:49 am
I don’t see a prediction thread, but this is the type of raid game you win by at least 2 TDs if you’re a national title contender.

NAU 24
Bobcats 45
So if we’re up 35-10 in the fourth quarter and nau scores two garbage time touchdowns, then we’re not a title contender?
Definitely probably categorically for sure exactly what he's saying...


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Re: At NAU

Post by catsrback76 » Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:12 am

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Over the years I’ve had a saying that is often used in politics. The October Surprise. In politics there would be some announcement that was a total shock and would often sink a candidate just prior to polls opening, hence the name. It’s always seemed to me that during the NAU pregame radio show it would be revealed that player XYZ was injured in practice and thus out for the season and this would sink out late season games. I’ve discussed with other long time BN posters but thankfully hasn’t happened several years. This week always has me anxious when we go to NAU.
I agree, NAU at home is always a tough out! I’m expecting struggles but trust that we shake it off and play like conference champions.



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Re: At NAU

Post by PapaG » Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:54 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:01 am
PapaG wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:49 am
I don’t see a prediction thread, but this is the type of raid game you win by at least 2 TDs if you’re a national title contender.

NAU 24
Bobcats 45
So if we’re up 35-10 in the fourth quarter and nau scores two garbage time touchdowns, then we’re not a title contender?
If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. Or with you, maybe still your aunt.

Yes, you need to win by 2 TDs and pulling starters at 35-10 in the 4th unless there are 2 minutes left is a stupid idea.


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Re: At NAU

Post by aucat » Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:23 am

I give us a good chance to win this game because for the first time in quite a while I will not be traveling to Flagstaff. It seems like every time that I have ever attended a game there we play below our capabilities and NAU plays above theirs. So in my absence, Go Cats!



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Re: At NAU

Post by iaafan » Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:04 pm

PapaG wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:54 am
iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:01 am
PapaG wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:49 am
I don’t see a prediction thread, but this is the type of raid game you win by at least 2 TDs if you’re a national title contender.

NAU 24
Bobcats 45
So if we’re up 35-10 in the fourth quarter and nau scores two garbage time touchdowns, then we’re not a title contender?
If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. Or with you, maybe still your aunt.

Yes, you need to win by 2 TDs and pulling starters at 35-10 in the 4th unless there are 2 minutes left is a stupid idea.
Strike a nerve? You could’ve just answered the question.
I think we could lose the game and still be a national contender. I’m not sure why anyone would give up on the season if their team doesn’t win by 12 or more on the road against a team that is very good at home. But you do you.



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Re: At NAU

Post by catatac » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:10 pm

It's always so hard to predict just how these games will go. I would not be surprised if the Cats win 24 to 23. I also would not be surprised if the Cats win 55 to 17.

I thought the Cats would beat Mercyhurst by way more than 17, and I did NOT think the Cats would beat EWU by 54.


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Re: At NAU

Post by coloradocat » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:26 pm

NAU has given up 31 to Utah Tech, 49 to SUU and 23 to UIW. UTU and SUU are both 1-4 and the NAU game was the highest scoring output for both teams. They also gave up 17 to PSU which is the equivalent of at least 30 to the other teams. If we don't score at least 42 something went very wrong.


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Re: At NAU

Post by Joe Bobcat » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:39 pm

I'll make my prediction from having watched the NAU at PSU game.
Since our offense is conservatively twice as good as PSU we should be able to score 34 points.
Trim that score by 3 points for being in the skydome and elevation (elevation not altitude, come on people use the proper words)
Now with our defense being conservatively twice as good as PSU we should only allow 15 points.
Considering that the wood chucks are at home they might score another 7 points.
So with that having been said ( credit to Ty Gregorak)

Bobcats 31
wood chucks 22


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Re: At NAU

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:53 pm

catatac wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:10 pm
It's always so hard to predict just how these games will go. I would not be surprised if the Cats win 24 to 23. I also would not be surprised if the Cats win 55 to 17.

I thought the Cats would beat Mercyhurst by way more than 17, and I did NOT think the Cats would beat EWU by 54.
That's true and a good frame of mind to have as a fan, especially. About all you can do is look at how they've been playing. NAU has been really hot and consistent on offense, MSU has been the same if not hotter on defense. So, it could come down to how MSU's offense and NAU's defense do. Or it could come down to special teams or injuries or turnovers or penalties or bad calls... :lol: I'm not helping, am I. Oh, and the Cats are 4-15 at NAU since 1981 and 6-15 at UM since 1981, so it's been a tougher place to play than Missoula. :shock: At EWU 7-13.

I don't think the week-to-week evaluation is a good way to go though. I look for trends and anomalies. If a team doesn't have a trend and there are all kinds of anomalies, then I just decide that team is inconsistent, and you don't know what you're going to get.

NAU is well-coached and anytime you have a QB like Pennington, you're a good threat to move the ball at home. They put up 331 yards vs a good Arizona St. Since then, they've had 391, 508, 402, 515. Oddly the two low outputs were home games.

Were it not for the MH game, MSU would look a lot better on offense. Bobcats had 349 vs SDSU, then 539 vs San Diego, then the odd 354 vs MH (6.5 per play) and then 580. The 354 vs MH doesn't look so bad in terms of ypp, especially when compared to SDSU, which was 4.9 with almost identical totals.

Defensively, MSU's worst FCS game (297 vs SDSU) is almost as good as NAU's best (294 vs UT). MSU is at 250/game, while NAU is 375.


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Re: At NAU

Post by rfischer94 » Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:53 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:39 pm
I'll make my prediction from having watched the NAU at PSU game.
Since our offense is conservatively twice as good as PSU we should be able to score 34 points.
Trim that score by 3 points for being in the skydome and elevation (elevation not altitude, come on people use the proper words)
Now with our defense being conservatively twice as good as PSU we should only allow 15 points.
Considering that the wood chucks are at home they might score another 7 points.
So with that having been said ( credit to Ty Gregorak)

Bobcats 31
wood chucks 22
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Re: At NAU

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:38 am

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NAU is the Big Sky's house of voodoo magic. 7000' elevation plus being in a dome makes for a great home field advantage, and strange results. This game honestly scares the hell out of me. I think NAU is a really good football team
Here’s some reverse Voodoo for them — I get tired of the 7,000 ft claim because it’s simply not true. Putting the correct elevation on the wall wouldn’t have the same fear factor. It’s still high but 7,000 is just a psyche-out so let’s ignore it. War Memorial at Laramie is 7,215 ft which is 335 feet higher!

@rfischer94 can we get some signage to refute this false claim? Lay it on them.

The J. Lawrence Walkup Skydome (commonly called the Walkup Sky Dome) on Northern Arizona University's Flagstaff campus has a playing surface elevation of 6,880 feet (2,097 meters) above sea level. This is the precise figure for the turf/field level.



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Re: At NAU

Post by aucat » Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:56 am

I can understand the possible problem of a team coming in from sea level to play at the Skydome. However, our guys are used to practicing and playing at an elevation just under 5000 feet. Shouldn't be much of a factor.



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Re: At NAU

Post by nevadacat » Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:02 am

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:38 am
damnyoutuesday wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:23 pm
NAU is the Big Sky's house of voodoo magic. 7000' elevation plus being in a dome makes for a great home field advantage, and strange results. This game honestly scares the hell out of me. I think NAU is a really good football team
Here’s some reverse Voodoo for them — I get tired of the 7,000 ft claim because it’s simply not true. Putting the correct elevation on the wall wouldn’t have the same fear factor. It’s still high but 7,000 is just a psyche-out so let’s ignore it. War Memorial at Laramie is 7,215 ft which is 335 feet higher!

@rfischer94 can we get some signage to refute this false claim? Lay it on them.

The J. Lawrence Walkup Skydome (commonly called the Walkup Sky Dome) on Northern Arizona University's Flagstaff campus has a playing surface elevation of 6,880 feet (2,097 meters) above sea level. This is the precise figure for the turf/field level.
Must be rounding to one significant figure. Perhaps that’s the most precision they can handle.


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Re: At NAU

Post by St George » Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:05 am

aucat wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:56 am
I can understand the possible problem of a team coming in from sea level to play at the Skydome. However, our guys are used to practicing and playing at an elevation just under 5000 feet. Shouldn't be much of a factor.
One of the Bobcat receivers mentioned the lights in the dome can be a problem, players not being able to find the ball. At least in an outdoor stadium the lights are back and much higher than in a dome.



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Re: At NAU

Post by rfischer94 » Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:09 am

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:38 am
damnyoutuesday wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:23 pm
NAU is the Big Sky's house of voodoo magic. 7000' elevation plus being in a dome makes for a great home field advantage, and strange results. This game honestly scares the hell out of me. I think NAU is a really good football team
Here’s some reverse Voodoo for them — I get tired of the 7,000 ft claim because it’s simply not true. Putting the correct elevation on the wall wouldn’t have the same fear factor. It’s still high but 7,000 is just a psyche-out so let’s ignore it. War Memorial at Laramie is 7,215 ft which is 335 feet higher!

@rfischer94 can we get some signage to refute this false claim? Lay it on them.

The J. Lawrence Walkup Skydome (commonly called the Walkup Sky Dome) on Northern Arizona University's Flagstaff campus has a playing surface elevation of 6,880 feet (2,097 meters) above sea level. This is the precise figure for the turf/field level.
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Re: At NAU

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:16 am

rfischer94 wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:09 am
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:38 am
damnyoutuesday wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:23 pm
NAU is the Big Sky's house of voodoo magic. 7000' elevation plus being in a dome makes for a great home field advantage, and strange results. This game honestly scares the hell out of me. I think NAU is a really good football team
Here’s some reverse Voodoo for them — I get tired of the 7,000 ft claim because it’s simply not true. Putting the correct elevation on the wall wouldn’t have the same fear factor. It’s still high but 7,000 is just a psyche-out so let’s ignore it. War Memorial at Laramie is 7,215 ft which is 335 feet higher!

@rfischer94 can we get some signage to refute this false claim? Lay it on them.

The J. Lawrence Walkup Skydome (commonly called the Walkup Sky Dome) on Northern Arizona University's Flagstaff campus has a playing surface elevation of 6,880 feet (2,097 meters) above sea level. This is the precise figure for the turf/field level.
I'm on it!
Good man! I’d love to expose them once and for all. I wonder if they round their tax bills up similarly? @nevadacat can help if they need.



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Re: At NAU

Post by catsrback76 » Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:05 pm

St George wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:05 am
aucat wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:56 am
I can understand the possible problem of a team coming in from sea level to play at the Skydome. However, our guys are used to practicing and playing at an elevation just under 5000 feet. Shouldn't be much of a factor.
One of the Bobcat receivers mentioned the lights in the dome can be a problem, players not being able to find the ball. At least in an outdoor stadium the lights are back and much higher than in a dome.
Wondering IF having our own IPF helps with adjusting to the dome effect. Practice inside all week and crank the chain saws on the sound system might help adjust to it.



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