2025 Griz Hail Mary

[TomCat88]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

[OldGriz]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

[HookedOnGriz]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

That’s because you’re so biased you can’t even see straight. Did you see what South Dakota State did to that mighty Mercyhurst you guys should be extremely embarrassed and quite concerned over that alone. You’re going on about the Griz strength the schedule for ****** sakes Mercyhurst and San Diego are ranked worse than a division 2 Central Washington team.

Your entire point of starting this thread was to say that the Griz were going to automatically suck and struggle because of all of the new faces and transfers. It’s OK to admit you were completely wrong.

[TomCat88]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

They probably don’t know why, which is why I asked this mostly rhetorical question. An exercise in futility.

[catatac]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

That’s because you’re so biased you can’t even see straight. Did you see what South Dakota State did to that mighty Mercyhurst you guys should be extremely embarrassed and quite concerned over that alone. You’re going on about the Griz strength the schedule for ****** sakes Mercyhurst and San Diego are ranked worse than a division 2 Central Washington team.

Your entire point of starting this thread was to say that the Griz were going to automatically suck and struggle because of all of the new faces and transfers. It’s OK to admit you were completely wrong.

What part of, "Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team." are you not undersanding? Again, please point out where I said the Griz were going to automatically suck.

I'll admit I was completely wrong if the Griz make it to Frisco and don't get blown out, because it's going to take that long to prove whether or not the Griz have in fact fielded a "Championship Caliber Team."

[Cataholic]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

That’s because you’re so biased you can’t even see straight. Did you see what South Dakota State did to that mighty Mercyhurst you guys should be extremely embarrassed and quite concerned over that alone. You’re going on about the Griz strength the schedule for ****** sakes Mercyhurst and San Diego are ranked worse than a division 2 Central Washington team.

Your entire point of starting this thread was to say that the Griz were going to automatically suck and struggle because of all of the new faces and transfers. It’s OK to admit you were completely wrong.

You are seriously the dumbest and most uneducated poster that has ever existed. We actually played South Dakota State and took them to double overtime. Why would anyone want to look at a common opponent instead? What a moron.

[Cataholic]

The griz have been picked 1st or 2nd in the conference preseason every year since Covid. They've finished in the top 2 once in those 4 seasons and will probably be 2nd this go around. 2023 bought BH and the staff a lot of leeway but you have to bet its more of what the last 4 years have been. It doesn't really matter but it shows the bias they get, Davis and NAU have less questions going into this year but will be picked below the gris.

Even if the Griz are the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference this year they should still be able to finish in the Top 2 due to their ridiculously easy schedule. It all balances out in the long run, a couple years ago I remember they played all the best teams on the road in the same season. Same thing that ended up costing the Bobcats in 2023 when they beat Sac State on the road but then lost at Idaho and UM.

Maybe. I could see them dropping the game @ Sac. That will be a ESPN 2 game and Sac St will want to prove they are FBS caliber on national TV. Then if the Cats can break the 4 game streak of home teams winning they could end up with 2 losses there. They open at home vs Idaho who beat them there last time they played in Wa Griz. Plus the griz always struggle in Pokey. They've only won the last 2 versus ISU by 8 points and that was '23 and '22 (they didn't play last year) and I think the Bengals will be improved over what they were last few seasons. I don't know why but Pokey/ISU is to the Gris what Flagstaff is to the Cats.

I honestly think even with the easy schedule the griz are 8-4 or 9-3 team. The only position group that you can reasonably say is good to elite is the RB room. They have questions at QB, O-line, and lost pretty much every pass catcher from last year. As ??? as they on Offense they are even more unproven on Defense. Not saying they will be bad, I just don't think they are the number 2 team in BSC and are closer to 4th or 5th. Every year since Covid they've been highly ranked based on names coming back. Except for '23 they haven't met expectations. Now they are completely in a rebuild and still highly ranked.

From Sam Herders preview:

Montana’s offense returns its All-American running back, a quarterback who split reps last year, three of its top five offensive linemen, and it adds a 2024 All-Purpose FCS All-American. The Griz lose their top five pass-catchers.
In reps, Montana returns seven players who played 390 or more snaps.

Montana loses its top 10 tacklers and 13 of its top 15 from last fall. In snaps, the Griz lose their top 13 players in reps and return only four of their top 20. Montana added two FCS transfers with All-Conference accolades and an FBS transfer who earned Freshman All-American honors.

On offense they have a big question at QB and the only guy to throw the ball to is transfer Wortham who they hope is a Bergen clone. The returning snap count is even lower than it looks. 390 snaps over 14 games is only 28/game when they ran 68 plays per game. On defense they have even fewer guys with meaningful playing time. I know they have become Transfer U but that's simply a lot of snaps to fill on both sides of the ball. They can't have found that many plug and play guys.

Calling them Transfer U implies that they have had success with transfers. That’s debatable. I would say they’re Experiment U.

Are there no teams in the BSC that are improved from last year? UM was fifth last year but they’re expected to be second this year? Are the players they’re bringing in really that good? Has Hauck proven to be good at getting transfers to play well? Is Gillman as good as everyone says? He had some great games against bad defenses but struggled a lot too last year. His performances against Poly and UNC were frankly awful. Is it just a bad OL or is he a little overrated? Something doesn’t add up.

This one is probably my favorite. Imagine that, iaafan looking like an absolute fool. You have to be borderline retarded to say Gillman is overrated and not that good.

You are really one ignorant dude. You do realize that the “r” word is not acceptable in society today. Your fan base must be embarrassed everytime you post.

Oh go drive around in your car with a mask on, Karen. I can guarantee you’re that “guy”

Let’s go over to your egriz board and see how people feel about you using that word and representing Gris nation. You won’t though because we all know that you are a loser.

You should probably have your boy grizzh8r clean up the quote in his signature line…..not a good look for you guys either.

I don’t usually look at posters signatures, but I will take a look. I guess you agree that Hooked is a complete moron to use such language?

[Cataholic]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

Those pollsters must not watch the games very closely. I looked at egriz after the UND game and a number of your posters were saying that win was because of the refs. I will also add the UND coach missed out on two chip shot field goals that would have been the difference. Any neutral observer saw that UND was the better team.

[OldGriz]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

Those pollsters must not watch the games very closely. I looked at egriz after the UND game and a number of your posters were saying that win was because of the refs. I will also add the UND coach missed out on two chip shot field goals that would have been the difference. Any neutral observer saw that UND was the better team.

What neutral observer said that? Until you produce him, I’ll trust the coaches and the writers.

[OldGriz]

From the Spokesman Review newspaper article of 9/26/25:

“All week, Idaho has been preparing to play in the University of Montana’s Washington Grizzly Stadium. The Vandals will show up for the ESPN2 game late Saturday with pulsating heads. At practice, the Kibbie Dome sound system has been assaulting players with an ear-splitting anomalous cacophony with metallic overtones, like the freight train roar of a tornado as it dismantles a corrugated roof factory had been recorded. The goal is to approximate what Idaho expects to hear from Montana’s crowd.”

[Cataholic]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

Those pollsters must not watch the games very closely. I looked at egriz after the UND game and a number of your posters were saying that win was because of the refs. I will also add the UND coach missed out on two chip shot field goals that would have been the difference. Any neutral observer saw that UND was the better team.

What neutral observer said that? Until you produce him, I’ll trust the coaches and the writers.

Your own fans said that!!

[OldGriz]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

Those pollsters must not watch the games very closely. I looked at egriz after the UND game and a number of your posters were saying that win was because of the refs. I will also add the UND coach missed out on two chip shot field goals that would have been the difference. Any neutral observer saw that UND was the better team.

What neutral observer said that? Until you produce him, I’ll trust the coaches and the writers.

Your own fans said that!!

Yeah, right.

[D-Wreck]

If you don't feed the trolls, they usually leave. Right now though you're helping a few of the most satiated trolls in all of Internet land to grow even fatter.

[GRIZFNZ]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

That’s because you’re so biased you can’t even see straight. Did you see what South Dakota State did to that mighty Mercyhurst you guys should be extremely embarrassed and quite concerned over that alone. You’re going on about the Griz strength the schedule for ****** sakes Mercyhurst and San Diego are ranked worse than a division 2 Central Washington team.

Your entire point of starting this thread was to say that the Griz were going to automatically suck and struggle because of all of the new faces and transfers. It’s OK to admit you were completely wrong.

What part of, "Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team." are you not undersanding? Again, please point out where I said the Griz were going to automatically suck.

I'll admit I was completely wrong if the Griz make it to Frisco and don't get blown out, because it's going to take that long to prove whether or not the Griz have in fact fielded a "Championship Caliber Team."

Might as well admit you’re wrong now, since there’s no way the Griz get blown out in Frisco….the championship game is at Vanderbilt this year.

[77matman]

Silly to argue which 3rd or 4th rated team is better. The probability of either a 3rd or 4th rated team getting to Nashville is small.

Let’s be hoping both of the Dakota States somehow find a way to loose.

[grizzh8r]

Silly to argue which 3rd or 4th rated team is better. The probability of either a 3rd or 4th rated team getting to Nashville is small.

Let’s be hoping both of the Dakota States somehow find a way to loose.

Nope, because it likely isn't going to happen. Best hope for MSU getting a #2 seed is for SDSU to win out, and beat NDSU decisively in regulation (which has a much higher probability of happening than both DSU's dropping 2 games).

[77matman]

Wouldn’t argue. Just saying 3 vs 4 is inconsequential.

[Prodigal Cat]

Silly to argue which 3rd or 4th rated team is better. The probability of either a 3rd or 4th rated team getting to Nashville is small.

Let’s be hoping both of the Dakota States somehow find a way to loose.

Nope, because it likely isn't going to happen. Best hope for MSU getting a #2 seed is for SDSU to win out, and beat NDSU decisively in regulation (which has a much higher probability of happening than both DSU's dropping 2 games).

The next month should give us a bit more clarity on exactly how good NDSU is. Yes they have looked good and blown out all their competition but they have yet to play even a playoff caliber, heck just a team with a winning record yet. Ill St, SIU, then the marker a few weeks after that. If they roll through that it will be tough to see anyone else lifting the trophy.

[catatac]

Silly to argue which 3rd or 4th rated team is better. The probability of either a 3rd or 4th rated team getting to Nashville is small.

Let’s be hoping both of the Dakota States somehow find a way to loose.

I would say the chances are pretty decent that either UM or MSU makes it to Nashville, but the chances of either team actually beating the DSU team there, not good.

My prediction is that UM and MSU win out until the brawl, and the winner of that gets the #2 seed and homefield all throughout.
Then NDSU and SDSU play on October 25, the winner of that one gets the #1 seed, and the loser gets #3 or #4 behind Tarleton. Of course if Tarleton slips up at all, this changes, and there's a chance one of the DSUs gets beat by UND as they both have to travel there. Just my prediction.

[Cataholic]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Hmmm... are you seeing anything in my post saying the Griz would suck, or be a train wreck, or whatever? But it's all good - I hope you and the rest of Griz Nation continues to have an inflated view of just how good you are, because of beating up on bad teams. You have exactly TWO good teams on the schedule. You squeaked by one of them at home, and you'll see the other one at home in late November. If you're not undefeated heading into the brawl, then you will have had an embarrassing slip up along the way... total cream puff schedule and EIGHT home games. I will give a little credit however, so far it looks like Bobby does have all the new faces and drop downs playing pretty well together. That said, I watched the entire game Saturday and no way in hell that Griz team I watched would have beaten NDSU, SDSU, or MSU yesterday on a neutral field.

The writers and the coaches (both polls) rank the Griz higher than the Cats.

Is that good or bad?

It just is what it is. For whatever reason, sports writers and coaches rank the Griz ahead of the Cats. Thoughts on why?

Those pollsters must not watch the games very closely. I looked at egriz after the UND game and a number of your posters were saying that win was because of the refs. I will also add the UND coach missed out on two chip shot field goals that would have been the difference. Any neutral observer saw that UND was the better team.

What neutral observer said that? Until you produce him, I’ll trust the coaches and the writers.

Your own fans said that!!

Yeah, right.

It’s on egriz.