2025 Griz Hail Mary

[Cataholic]

One last comment regarding “filmgate”. Going into the game with power (according to Hooked) school Central Washington, the Gris had zero games on film (their first game) and CW had one game on tape. Given the Gris had no current season films to trade, I am sure CW said that they wouldn’t provide film. Bobby of course wants to make every team look like the evil empire that has slighted them. Come to think of it, Hooked could actually be Bobby. They both display the same deficient level of intelligence.

[TomCat88]

Could be wrong but I don’t think film exchange is required outside of conference games. Im almost positive the BSC requires it within the conference. I don’t think one conference can require another to do it. I think the NCAA requires it for playoffs.

[Cataholic]

Could be wrong but I don’t think film exchange is required outside of conference games. Im almost positive the BSC requires it within the conference. I don’t think one conference can require another to do it. I think the NCAA requires it for playoffs.

Historically, it was only required for conference games and playoffs. There may have been some recent rules changes that apply to FBS games. Any other games it was negotiated between the schools but not required.

[HookedOnGriz]

Did anyone also notice Bobby doing Bobby things and whining about how Central Washington supposedly did not agree to give them game tape from last weekend? Would it really be that hard to find a replay of that game if they wanted? What a baby.

Central Washington uses FloSports to stream their games. All of their games are available on the site. Took about 2 minutes to find CW’s game from this year. Bobby is such whiner.

https://www.flocollege.com/teams/697274 ... ball/video

Tell me you know absolutely zero about game tape vs a tv broadcast without telling me you know absolutely nothing about game tape vs a tv broadcast. Not even you can be this dumb…..oh wait.

You might be the dumbest poster in the history of Grisville.

Maybe, but I know the difference between a TV broadcast and 22 game film. And you obviously did not. That tells me A LOT about your so-called expertise over here

Especially given the powerhouse Division 2 team of Central Washington that Bobby was game planning against, I am sure that only All 22 film would have been of benefit! Nothing could have possibly been derived from watching a general broadcast of such of a powerful opponent !!

There you go with all that expertise again. Did you know in a stack ranking of all football teams, both San Diego and Mercyhurst rank below Central Washington. The more you know……

If only there was a recent head to head matchup that would help us alleviate this problem. Oh wait! Didn't San Diego and Central Washington play last year? And San Diego won 24-7?

Not to mention MSU is ranked ahead of UM in these rankings. The more you know...

Btw, not sure what ranking you're using, but Sagarin doesn't even have Central Washington listed. Not to mention that these rankings are essentially useless this early in the season, but you're the one that brought them up, not me.

Laughable. There’s no way two teams could be different from ONE YEAR AGO right? Maybe ask South Dakota or Kansas St about that. And no the Griz are ranked in front of the Cats on this same compiled 766 team list. In fact I saw the most recent coaches poll has the Griz ahead too. So you’ve swung and missed twice now. Do better.

[ECBobcat]

My neighbor Henry does a ranking of all college football teams. Gris are dead last so far, right behind the referee team that handled the dUMb NoDak game.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Did anyone also notice Bobby doing Bobby things and whining about how Central Washington supposedly did not agree to give them game tape from last weekend? Would it really be that hard to find a replay of that game if they wanted? What a baby.

Central Washington uses FloSports to stream their games. All of their games are available on the site. Took about 2 minutes to find CW’s game from this year. Bobby is such whiner.

https://www.flocollege.com/teams/697274 ... ball/video

Tell me you know absolutely zero about game tape vs a tv broadcast without telling me you know absolutely nothing about game tape vs a tv broadcast. Not even you can be this dumb…..oh wait.

You might be the dumbest poster in the history of Grisville.

Maybe, but I know the difference between a TV broadcast and 22 game film. And you obviously did not. That tells me A LOT about your so-called expertise over here

Especially given the powerhouse Division 2 team of Central Washington that Bobby was game planning against, I am sure that only All 22 film would have been of benefit! Nothing could have possibly been derived from watching a general broadcast of such of a powerful opponent !!

There you go with all that expertise again. Did you know in a stack ranking of all football teams, both San Diego and Mercyhurst rank below Central Washington. The more you know……

If only there was a recent head to head matchup that would help us alleviate this problem. Oh wait! Didn't San Diego and Central Washington play last year? And San Diego won 24-7?

Not to mention MSU is ranked ahead of UM in these rankings. The more you know...

Btw, not sure what ranking you're using, but Sagarin doesn't even have Central Washington listed. Not to mention that these rankings are essentially useless this early in the season, but you're the one that brought them up, not me.

Laughable. There’s no way two teams could be different from ONE YEAR AGO right? Maybe ask South Dakota or Kansas St about that. And no the Griz are ranked in front of the Cats on this same compiled 766 team list. In fact I saw the most recent coaches poll has the Griz ahead too. So you’ve swung and missed twice now. Do better.

Again, these lists are all bunk this early in the season, but if you’re going to use one, use Sagarin, like I mentioned. It’s the one I cited that has MSU ahead. Not a swing and a miss, but I’m sure whichever nameless ranking you’re using is super excellent and obviously the best. Whatever makes you feel better sweetie.

[Cataholic]

My neighbor Henry does a ranking of all college football teams. Gris are dead last so far, right behind the referee team that handled the dUMb NoDak game.

That is hilarious!! I heard the list that Hooked is referencing actually has Mexican football teams on it as well!

[HookedOnGriz]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

[HookedOnGriz]

The griz have been picked 1st or 2nd in the conference preseason every year since Covid. They've finished in the top 2 once in those 4 seasons and will probably be 2nd this go around. 2023 bought BH and the staff a lot of leeway but you have to bet its more of what the last 4 years have been. It doesn't really matter but it shows the bias they get, Davis and NAU have less questions going into this year but will be picked below the gris.

Even if the Griz are the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference this year they should still be able to finish in the Top 2 due to their ridiculously easy schedule. It all balances out in the long run, a couple years ago I remember they played all the best teams on the road in the same season. Same thing that ended up costing the Bobcats in 2023 when they beat Sac State on the road but then lost at Idaho and UM.

Maybe. I could see them dropping the game @ Sac. That will be a ESPN 2 game and Sac St will want to prove they are FBS caliber on national TV. Then if the Cats can break the 4 game streak of home teams winning they could end up with 2 losses there. They open at home vs Idaho who beat them there last time they played in Wa Griz. Plus the griz always struggle in Pokey. They've only won the last 2 versus ISU by 8 points and that was '23 and '22 (they didn't play last year) and I think the Bengals will be improved over what they were last few seasons. I don't know why but Pokey/ISU is to the Gris what Flagstaff is to the Cats.

I honestly think even with the easy schedule the griz are 8-4 or 9-3 team. The only position group that you can reasonably say is good to elite is the RB room. They have questions at QB, O-line, and lost pretty much every pass catcher from last year. As ??? as they on Offense they are even more unproven on Defense. Not saying they will be bad, I just don't think they are the number 2 team in BSC and are closer to 4th or 5th. Every year since Covid they've been highly ranked based on names coming back. Except for '23 they haven't met expectations. Now they are completely in a rebuild and still highly ranked.

From Sam Herders preview:

Montana’s offense returns its All-American running back, a quarterback who split reps last year, three of its top five offensive linemen, and it adds a 2024 All-Purpose FCS All-American. The Griz lose their top five pass-catchers.
In reps, Montana returns seven players who played 390 or more snaps.

Montana loses its top 10 tacklers and 13 of its top 15 from last fall. In snaps, the Griz lose their top 13 players in reps and return only four of their top 20. Montana added two FCS transfers with All-Conference accolades and an FBS transfer who earned Freshman All-American honors.

On offense they have a big question at QB and the only guy to throw the ball to is transfer Wortham who they hope is a Bergen clone. The returning snap count is even lower than it looks. 390 snaps over 14 games is only 28/game when they ran 68 plays per game. On defense they have even fewer guys with meaningful playing time. I know they have become Transfer U but that's simply a lot of snaps to fill on both sides of the ball. They can't have found that many plug and play guys.

Calling them Transfer U implies that they have had success with transfers. That’s debatable. I would say they’re Experiment U.

Are there no teams in the BSC that are improved from last year? UM was fifth last year but they’re expected to be second this year? Are the players they’re bringing in really that good? Has Hauck proven to be good at getting transfers to play well? Is Gillman as good as everyone says? He had some great games against bad defenses but struggled a lot too last year. His performances against Poly and UNC were frankly awful. Is it just a bad OL or is he a little overrated? Something doesn’t add up.

This one is probably my favorite. Imagine that, iaafan looking like an absolute fool. You have to be borderline retarded to say Gillman is overrated and not that good.

[Cataholic]

The griz have been picked 1st or 2nd in the conference preseason every year since Covid. They've finished in the top 2 once in those 4 seasons and will probably be 2nd this go around. 2023 bought BH and the staff a lot of leeway but you have to bet its more of what the last 4 years have been. It doesn't really matter but it shows the bias they get, Davis and NAU have less questions going into this year but will be picked below the gris.

Even if the Griz are the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference this year they should still be able to finish in the Top 2 due to their ridiculously easy schedule. It all balances out in the long run, a couple years ago I remember they played all the best teams on the road in the same season. Same thing that ended up costing the Bobcats in 2023 when they beat Sac State on the road but then lost at Idaho and UM.

Maybe. I could see them dropping the game @ Sac. That will be a ESPN 2 game and Sac St will want to prove they are FBS caliber on national TV. Then if the Cats can break the 4 game streak of home teams winning they could end up with 2 losses there. They open at home vs Idaho who beat them there last time they played in Wa Griz. Plus the griz always struggle in Pokey. They've only won the last 2 versus ISU by 8 points and that was '23 and '22 (they didn't play last year) and I think the Bengals will be improved over what they were last few seasons. I don't know why but Pokey/ISU is to the Gris what Flagstaff is to the Cats.

I honestly think even with the easy schedule the griz are 8-4 or 9-3 team. The only position group that you can reasonably say is good to elite is the RB room. They have questions at QB, O-line, and lost pretty much every pass catcher from last year. As ??? as they on Offense they are even more unproven on Defense. Not saying they will be bad, I just don't think they are the number 2 team in BSC and are closer to 4th or 5th. Every year since Covid they've been highly ranked based on names coming back. Except for '23 they haven't met expectations. Now they are completely in a rebuild and still highly ranked.

From Sam Herders preview:

Montana’s offense returns its All-American running back, a quarterback who split reps last year, three of its top five offensive linemen, and it adds a 2024 All-Purpose FCS All-American. The Griz lose their top five pass-catchers.
In reps, Montana returns seven players who played 390 or more snaps.

Montana loses its top 10 tacklers and 13 of its top 15 from last fall. In snaps, the Griz lose their top 13 players in reps and return only four of their top 20. Montana added two FCS transfers with All-Conference accolades and an FBS transfer who earned Freshman All-American honors.

On offense they have a big question at QB and the only guy to throw the ball to is transfer Wortham who they hope is a Bergen clone. The returning snap count is even lower than it looks. 390 snaps over 14 games is only 28/game when they ran 68 plays per game. On defense they have even fewer guys with meaningful playing time. I know they have become Transfer U but that's simply a lot of snaps to fill on both sides of the ball. They can't have found that many plug and play guys.

Calling them Transfer U implies that they have had success with transfers. That’s debatable. I would say they’re Experiment U.

Are there no teams in the BSC that are improved from last year? UM was fifth last year but they’re expected to be second this year? Are the players they’re bringing in really that good? Has Hauck proven to be good at getting transfers to play well? Is Gillman as good as everyone says? He had some great games against bad defenses but struggled a lot too last year. His performances against Poly and UNC were frankly awful. Is it just a bad OL or is he a little overrated? Something doesn’t add up.

This one is probably my favorite. Imagine that, iaafan looking like an absolute fool. You have to be borderline retarded to say Gillman is overrated and not that good.

You are really one ignorant dude. You do realize that the “r” word is not acceptable in society today. Your fan base must be embarrassed everytime you post.

[Cataholic]

They'll have a completely different, new team. I heard they'll have almost FIFTY new players, including all the transfer players and recruits. Will they better or worse than last year? Time will tell. Personally I think it's a huge challenge, uphill battle to bring in fifty new players and have them all gel and become a complete, championship caliber team.

It is fun to revisit this thread. Looks like 99% of posters here said it would be a train wreck with this many transfers and that there would be no way to make them gel and be good. Well, Coach Hauck Must be one of the best coaches in all of the land then because he’s got them playing at a pretty high-level and they seem to be gelling just fine. In fact a bunch of his transfers are big-time contributors on both sides of the ball and helping Griz win games. Nice work here as usual.

Or maybe Idaho, Indiana State and Central Washington are not very good. And I wouldn’t brag about the UND win. Terrible UND clock management and awful reffing was the only reason UM won that game. But guessing you will just call people the R word and act like a buffoon.

[HookedOnGriz]

The griz have been picked 1st or 2nd in the conference preseason every year since Covid. They've finished in the top 2 once in those 4 seasons and will probably be 2nd this go around. 2023 bought BH and the staff a lot of leeway but you have to bet its more of what the last 4 years have been. It doesn't really matter but it shows the bias they get, Davis and NAU have less questions going into this year but will be picked below the gris.

Even if the Griz are the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference this year they should still be able to finish in the Top 2 due to their ridiculously easy schedule. It all balances out in the long run, a couple years ago I remember they played all the best teams on the road in the same season. Same thing that ended up costing the Bobcats in 2023 when they beat Sac State on the road but then lost at Idaho and UM.

Maybe. I could see them dropping the game @ Sac. That will be a ESPN 2 game and Sac St will want to prove they are FBS caliber on national TV. Then if the Cats can break the 4 game streak of home teams winning they could end up with 2 losses there. They open at home vs Idaho who beat them there last time they played in Wa Griz. Plus the griz always struggle in Pokey. They've only won the last 2 versus ISU by 8 points and that was '23 and '22 (they didn't play last year) and I think the Bengals will be improved over what they were last few seasons. I don't know why but Pokey/ISU is to the Gris what Flagstaff is to the Cats.

I honestly think even with the easy schedule the griz are 8-4 or 9-3 team. The only position group that you can reasonably say is good to elite is the RB room. They have questions at QB, O-line, and lost pretty much every pass catcher from last year. As ??? as they on Offense they are even more unproven on Defense. Not saying they will be bad, I just don't think they are the number 2 team in BSC and are closer to 4th or 5th. Every year since Covid they've been highly ranked based on names coming back. Except for '23 they haven't met expectations. Now they are completely in a rebuild and still highly ranked.

From Sam Herders preview:

Montana’s offense returns its All-American running back, a quarterback who split reps last year, three of its top five offensive linemen, and it adds a 2024 All-Purpose FCS All-American. The Griz lose their top five pass-catchers.
In reps, Montana returns seven players who played 390 or more snaps.

Montana loses its top 10 tacklers and 13 of its top 15 from last fall. In snaps, the Griz lose their top 13 players in reps and return only four of their top 20. Montana added two FCS transfers with All-Conference accolades and an FBS transfer who earned Freshman All-American honors.

On offense they have a big question at QB and the only guy to throw the ball to is transfer Wortham who they hope is a Bergen clone. The returning snap count is even lower than it looks. 390 snaps over 14 games is only 28/game when they ran 68 plays per game. On defense they have even fewer guys with meaningful playing time. I know they have become Transfer U but that's simply a lot of snaps to fill on both sides of the ball. They can't have found that many plug and play guys.

Calling them Transfer U implies that they have had success with transfers. That’s debatable. I would say they’re Experiment U.

Are there no teams in the BSC that are improved from last year? UM was fifth last year but they’re expected to be second this year? Are the players they’re bringing in really that good? Has Hauck proven to be good at getting transfers to play well? Is Gillman as good as everyone says? He had some great games against bad defenses but struggled a lot too last year. His performances against Poly and UNC were frankly awful. Is it just a bad OL or is he a little overrated? Something doesn’t add up.

This one is probably my favorite. Imagine that, iaafan looking like an absolute fool. You have to be borderline retarded to say Gillman is overrated and not that good.

You are really one ignorant dude. You do realize that the “r” word is not acceptable in society today. Your fan base must be embarrassed everytime you post.

Oh go drive around in your car with a mask on, Karen. I can guarantee you’re that “guy”