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Re: RB Group

Post by technoCat » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am

Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.


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Re: RB Group

Post by catsrback76 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 am

technoCat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.
Julius and Adam have to be considered 1-2, and likely Colson next up. Unterrio is going to be kick off return and change of pace/speed and Claunch is the X factor. I like it! =D^



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Re: RB Group

Post by technoCat » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:48 am

catsrback76 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.
Julius and Adam have to be considered 1-2, and likely Colson next up. Unterrio is going to be kick off return and change of pace/speed and Claunch is the X factor. I like it! =D^
I like that group and if by some miracle they stayed healthy all year, we'd be gtg but we've seen our luck with rbs in the last couple year and the more(that can legit contribute when we need them) the merrier.


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Re: RB Group

Post by WetBreeches » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:00 am

catsrback76 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.
Julius and Adam have to be considered 1-2, and likely Colson next up. Unterrio is going to be kick off return and change of pace/speed and Claunch is the X factor. I like it! =D^
I have to imagine they will protect Claunch's redshirt. (Yes I know, it doesn't negate his ability to play in 4 games and playoffs). I just don't see Claunch beating out the players in front of him....White just transferred because he was so far down the depth chart.



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Re: RB Group

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:26 am

catsrback76 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.
Julius and Adam have to be considered 1-2, and likely Colson next up. Unterrio is going to be kick off return and change of pace/speed and Claunch is the X factor. I like it! =D^
What reason is there to think Claunch will be ready to go his freshman year? I never watched him, but it seems pretty unlikely to me considering his stats aren’t anything super special.



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Re: RB Group

Post by SparkCat » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:29 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:26 am
catsrback76 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:57 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:41 pm
Even with Davis coming back-- which is great-- the Cats still only have five backs on the roster for 2025 by my count:

Adam Jones
Julius Davis
Unterrio Latin-Henley
Colson Coon
Malachi Claunch

I suppose it's possible that a guy like Kornachuk lands at RB, but even then he would be a true freshman.

For reference, last year the Cats carried 7 backs.

I think they need at least one solid transfer here.
Definitely.
Julius and Adam have to be considered 1-2, and likely Colson next up. Unterrio is going to be kick off return and change of pace/speed and Claunch is the X factor. I like it! =D^
What reason is there to think Claunch will be ready to go his freshman year? I never watched him, but it seems pretty unlikely to me considering his stats aren’t anything super special.
I also like the way Coon runs, however, it would not surprise me if Henley passes him up or if they assign one of each to be a specific back up, so Davis/Coon and Jones/Henley.



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Re: RB Group

Post by mslacatfan » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:35 am

Im still really surprised Elliott didn’t come back for his last year. Seemed to be a player that was bought into the team/program/bozeman…

He would have been 3rd on the depth chart at best…. So I guess I understand that side of it, if he wants to go somewhere and start his last year…. On the flip side, he knows how many injuries we see at that position, so who knows when he might have been the starter…

Anyway… not a huge hit, but it’s a bummer. I was always a fan of that guy.


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Re: RB Group

Post by 94VegasCat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:39 am

Was ULH the only RB that we recruited for last season? There had to be more than just him? Who else redshirted?


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Re: RB Group

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.



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Re: RB Group

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...


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Re: RB Group

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:24 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
Better teams better tacklers. I know you know this, but I bring it up because there’s how you play overall and how you play against good teams. There’s also how you play when games are still hanging in the balance. So when evaluating a player or team it’s important to separate out those things. It’s more work but more revealing.


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Re: RB Group

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:25 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:24 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
Better teams better tacklers. I know you this, but I bring it up because there’s how you play overall and how you play against good teams. There’s also how you play when games are still hanging in the balance. So when evaluating a player or team it’s important to separate out those things. It’s more work but more revealing.
Also then good to note Davis is a plus tackle breaker against better defenses. You've been noting this and it's a great point.


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Re: RB Group

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:31 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
It’s hard to measure the effect of someone’s effort after they’ve decided to leave. There’s absolutely no question that it has an effect. How big that is, is impossible to say.


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Re: RB Group

Post by Lord Vigo » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:48 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:31 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
It’s hard to measure the effect of someone’s effort after they’ve decided to leave. There’s absolutely no question that it has an effect. How big that is, is impossible to say.
I also think it has to put a young man in a weird head space. Even if someone doesn’t intellectually believe it’s wrong to leave, there’s no way it doesn’t *feel* wrong to be walking out on your brothers. I know it would make me feel incredibly conflicted.



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Re: RB Group

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:58 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:48 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:31 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
It’s hard to measure the effect of someone’s effort after they’ve decided to leave. There’s absolutely no question that it has an effect. How big that is, is impossible to say.
I also think it has to put a young man in a weird head space. Even if someone doesn’t intellectually believe it’s wrong to leave, there’s no way it doesn’t *feel* wrong to be walking out on your brothers. I know it would make me feel incredibly conflicted.
Absolutely. It could make you try harder, but that’s not necessarily good. It could make you relax, but sometimes that’s good. Hard to measure but everyone is wondering about it, which is the bottom line because that’s not what anyone should be concerned about.


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Re: RB Group

Post by Long Time Cat » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:25 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:48 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:31 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:11 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:26 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:49 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
The 2024 had an embarrassment of riches at this position. We’re losing half of that to the portal it seems.

Does this position go from crazy deep to adequately deep? Is there any concern with depth at this point?

Julius Davis- may or may not be back next year? No official word yet here. Would be great to have him back with his punishing style of running to complement what Jones does.

Adam Jones- we know what we have here, legit stud who could be all over the record books if he continues doing what he did this year, but is he big enough to be a 20 carry/game up the middle type back?

Colson Coon- looked good in fairly limited reps this year. Still young, could be a great 1-2 punch.

Unterrio Latin-Henley- looked promising in very limited touches this year, I’ve heard good things, May be a star in the making.

Scottre Humphrey- gone

Jared White- gone

Elijah Elliott- gone. He didn’t play this year, so as far as what we saw on the field in 24’ this isn’t a “loss”, but he was good when healthy in prior years and when he got a shot. Seemed like a great teammate, wish this dude the best. I wish he stuck around his last year to contribute, but totally understand the situation.

I think the answer if Davis comes back is that we’re still plenty deep.

But if he’s not back, do we roll with what we have? Anticipate a transfer to help with depth?
Jones/Coon/Henley is a really good and dynamic backfield. We also have two freshman coming in with Claunch and Kornachuk. However, I'd expect one more transfer or signee by the time spring ball gets here. One thing we all likely noticed in the title game, Jones outsnapped Humphrey, had more YPC than Scottre, and is more of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Jones is the clear RB1 even if Davis does come back.
Jones could run freely as he had no worries about an injury taking away a solid 6-figure payday.
Jones also struggled to break tackles...
It’s hard to measure the effect of someone’s effort after they’ve decided to leave. There’s absolutely no question that it has an effect. How big that is, is impossible to say.
I also think it has to put a young man in a weird head space. Even if someone doesn’t intellectually believe it’s wrong to leave, there’s no way it doesn’t *feel* wrong to be walking out on your brothers. I know it would make me feel incredibly conflicted.
Absolutely. It could make you try harder, but that’s not necessarily good. It could make you relax, but sometimes that’s good. Hard to measure but everyone is wondering about it, which is the bottom line because that’s not what anyone should be concerned about.
It would definitely make you think about sustaining another injury, which might make you take less chances, which leads to fewer broken tackles, etc. Speculation I know but certainly possible and based on his performance it was how Scottre was running. I always attributed that to the injury but who knows.


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Re: RB Group

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:49 pm

Running backs at MSU are hard to evaluate due to how good the OL is. Guys I think are really good, like Ifanse, have turned out to not be as good as I thought. I thought he was NFL good. I thought his ability to break tackles and stay upright until the cavalry arrived and get pushed another 3-4 yards was so unique that he’d at least get some preseason carries. Maybe he did? Either way he was the no. 2 rb at Cal, which surprised me.

I don’t think Humphrey was as good as Ifanse.

I think this years group as it sits is pretty good.


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Re: RB Group

Post by kwcat » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:57 pm

Ifanse was strong and when healthy was impressively agile. But he has the wrong legs for durability which is why he was overlooked by FBS and probably passed on along with accumulated injury by the NFL.



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Re: RB Group

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:08 pm

kwcat wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:57 pm
Ifanse was strong and when healthy was impressively agile. But he has the wrong legs for durability which is why he was overlooked by FBS and probably passed on along with accumulated injury by the NFL.
Makes sense. I still think he was a better RB at MSU than Humphrey.


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Re: RB Group

Post by AFCAT » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:18 pm

kwcat wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:57 pm
Ifanse was strong and when healthy was impressively agile. But he has the wrong legs for durability which is why he was overlooked by FBS and probably passed on along with accumulated injury by the NFL.
Choate mentioned that Isaiah was a tad too slow for FBS, that’s why he was overlooked. When he came back after his injury though, he looked like he was faster than before.

Here are his pro day numbers.

40-yard dash (4.59), bench press (19) and vertical jump (36.5"), which would have been eighth among running backs at the combine.


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