Tommy- is grad transfer an option?

[centralmtfan]

Let him enjoy this run before we move him on.

[WetBreeches]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

[bcats]

Tommy is going to the league. He will be a Julian Edelman type player. College Qb, NFL slot receiver special teams ace. Could see him returning punts or kicks. His speed and quickness is next level.

[PapaG]

I look at a quarterback like Russell Wilson who has had excellent success in the NFL. What does he have that Tommy doesn't have?
If for some reason it doesn't work out in the NFL, I always think about the outstanding career that former MSU great Travis Lulay had in the Canadian football league. As much as Tommy obviously loves football, I really think it will be his career as a player then probably as a coach.
I hope he is able to stay healthy, that's the key. There have been other great QBs in the NFL with Tommy's height: Wilson, Bob Griese, Drew Breeze, just to mention a few.

I’m not sure if you’re being serious, but Wilson played in a pro-style offense with multiple receiver route trees all throughout college and still was considered a project when he first started playing in Seattle. Russ also had a big-time arm and was a baseball player, too.

I’d love for Tommy to be an NFL QB, but we really don’t know much about him as a passer outside of deep passes into man coverage and RPOs. Hopefully a team sees potential at QB and he gets on a practice squad, if that what he wants to do while he learns the position. If not, we already know he has limited experience at WR from his freshman season. He could become an excellent slot WR given the opportunity. You can teach size and speed, and he has both for that position.

[utucats]

He’ll do whatever he wants to do. Kid is a workhorse and I’d never bet against someone like that.

[coloradocat]

If Tommy chooses to play football next year he'll be playing football next year. I think he'd have a longer career in the CFL but he'd make more money in the NFL.

[catzz]

Tommy is going to the league. He will be a Julian Edelman type player. College Qb, NFL slot receiver special teams ace. Could see him returning punts or kicks. His speed and quickness is next level.

My thoughts exactly!

[Prodigal Cat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

[Camo_Cat]

He's done. Hindsight being 20/20 maybe using him in special teams and as the gadget QB behind McKay in '21 wasn't a great decision. If they had let him only play in 4 games and the playoffs that year(the playoffs not counting towards redshirt happened last season) they could have requested another year but he appeared in most of the games that season.

Hard to fault that decision though. Coaches could see he was a special athlete the moment he stepped on the field and wanted to get him involved.

With how many lawsuits the NCAA loses nowadays I wonder if/when someone's going to sue over the timeframe of the new playoffs exception to try to get it applied in earlier years.

I'm in my 50's, but I am considering suing the NCAA. There's still gotta be some playing eligibility out there somewhere for me...

[catzz]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

[Prodigal Cat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

[GoldstoneCat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

Bet against him being an NFL QB?

[onceacat]

I look at a quarterback like Russell Wilson who has had excellent success in the NFL. What does he have that Tommy doesn't have?
If for some reason it doesn't work out in the NFL, I always think about the outstanding career that former MSU great Travis Lulay had in the Canadian football league. As much as Tommy obviously loves football, I really think it will be his career as a player then probably as a coach.
I hope he is able to stay healthy, that's the key. There have been other great QBs in the NFL with Tommy's height: Wilson, Bob Griese, Drew Breeze, just to mention a few.

I’m not sure if you’re being serious, but Wilson played in a pro-style offense with multiple receiver route trees all throughout college and still was considered a project when he first started playing in Seattle. Russ also had a big-time arm and was a baseball player, too.

I’d love for Tommy to be an NFL QB, but we really don’t know much about him as a passer outside of deep passes into man coverage and RPOs. Hopefully a team sees potential at QB and he gets on a practice squad, if that what he wants to do while he learns the position. If not, we already know he has limited experience at WR from his freshman season. He could become an excellent slot WR given the opportunity. You can teach size and speed, and he has both for that position.

I could see a lot of places for Tommy. Hes got the physical measurable to be a WR/RB sort of gadget player like Percy Harbin or the BYU QB that played for the Saints.

He pretty clearly at this point doesn't have the QB skills (accuracy, reads, etc) at this point, but I was pretty critical of his passing skills 4 years ago, and hes progressed by leaps and bounds.

He obviously has a super high football IQ, is super coachable, and has more than enough athleticism.

I could totally see a team taking him as a sort of project...maybe hes the next Julian Edelman or maybe he polishes up like Russell Wilson or maybe he's a practice squad guy.

Three things: hes two inches too short & 20 lbs too small to be a compelling QB without some sort of off the charts ball skills, which he doesn't have YET. (LOL, he does NOT spin the Hes also too athletic NOT to be playing next level.

It'll be really interesting to see how he pans out with the scouts.

[PapaG]

I look at a quarterback like Russell Wilson who has had excellent success in the NFL. What does he have that Tommy doesn't have?
If for some reason it doesn't work out in the NFL, I always think about the outstanding career that former MSU great Travis Lulay had in the Canadian football league. As much as Tommy obviously loves football, I really think it will be his career as a player then probably as a coach.
I hope he is able to stay healthy, that's the key. There have been other great QBs in the NFL with Tommy's height: Wilson, Bob Griese, Drew Breeze, just to mention a few.

I’m not sure if you’re being serious, but Wilson played in a pro-style offense with multiple receiver route trees all throughout college and still was considered a project when he first started playing in Seattle. Russ also had a big-time arm and was a baseball player, too.

I’d love for Tommy to be an NFL QB, but we really don’t know much about him as a passer outside of deep passes into man coverage and RPOs. Hopefully a team sees potential at QB and he gets on a practice squad, if that what he wants to do while he learns the position. If not, we already know he has limited experience at WR from his freshman season. He could become an excellent slot WR given the opportunity. You can teach size and speed, and he has both for that position.

I could see a lot of places for Tommy. Hes got the physical measurable to be a WR/RB sort of gadget player like Percy Harbin or the BYU QB that played for the Saints.

He pretty clearly at this point doesn't have the QB skills (accuracy, reads, etc) at this point, but I was pretty critical of his passing skills 4 years ago, and hes progressed by leaps and bounds.

He obviously has a super high football IQ, is super coachable, and has more than enough athleticism.

I could totally see a team taking him as a sort of project...maybe hes the next Julian Edelman or maybe he polishes up like Russell Wilson or maybe he's a practice squad guy.

Three things: hes two inches too short & 20 lbs too small to be a compelling QB without some sort of off the charts ball skills, which he doesn't have YET. (LOL, he does NOT spin the Hes also too athletic NOT to be playing next level.

It'll be really interesting to see how he pans out with the scouts.

I meant can’t teach size and speed. He has both and is such a great athlete that I have to think there is a spot in the NFL for him. I think he’s surpassed Dave Dickenson as a Montana legend already and this national championship will solidify it.

[onceacat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

[Prodigal Cat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

Wrong. Bill Polian infamously said Lamar should switch to WR. He wasn't alone in questioning whether he was an NFL caliber QB. Its embarrassing how often your wrong on here.
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/lama ... nship-game

Edited to add this. Lamar was a Heisman winning QB but wasn't selected till the dead last pick in the first round. Heck even Tebow was taken 15th and he had much worse mechanics and numbers than Lamar. I challenge you to find another Heisman winning QB taken that late in the modern era. Plenty questioned his ability to play QB in the NFL.

[BelligerentBobcat]

The concern with Lamar was that what made him so good in college, his scrambling ability, would get him hurt in the league. He was fortunate to play for a very good coach in Harbaugh, and Jackson has developed his passing game a ton. He has physical and arm talent that Tommy doesn’t have. It’s not not a valid comparison.

Tommy is a great player. No reason to make outlandish comparisons like that. Just let Tommy be Tommy.

[Prodigal Cat]

The concern with Lamar was that what made him so good in college, his scrambling ability, would get him hurt in the league. He was fortunate to play for a very good coach in Harbaugh, and Jackson has developed his passing game a ton. He has physical and arm talent that Tommy doesn’t have. It’s not not a valid comparison.

Tommy is a great player. No reason to make outlandish comparisons like that. Just let Tommy be Tommy.

I'm not necessarily making a direct comparison. My comparison was the narratives of the 2 players. That they are both good RB's that can throw a little and that works in college but wont translate to the NFL. I don't totally disagree but I've also watched Tommy enough to know if he gets a chance he will win.

I disagree about the physical talent. LJ is a couple inches taller but Tommy is thicker and just as fast.

[tetoncat]

The concern with Lamar was that what made him so good in college, his scrambling ability, would get him hurt in the league. He was fortunate to play for a very good coach in Harbaugh, and Jackson has developed his passing game a ton. He has physical and arm talent that Tommy doesn’t have. It’s not not a valid comparison.

Tommy is a great player. No reason to make outlandish comparisons like that. Just let Tommy be Tommy.

I'm not necessarily making a direct comparison. My comparison was the narratives of the 2 players. That they are both good RB's that can throw a little and that works in college but wont translate to the NFL. I don't totally disagree but I've also watched Tommy enough to know if he gets a chance he will win.

I disagree about the physical talent. LJ is a couple inches taller but Tommy is thicker and just as fast.

Arm talent.

[onceacat]

As stated previously, Tommy does not have the arm talent to be an NFL QB. But he is an NFL talent and if he's able to catch a football, there will be an intelligent coach that figures out how to utilize him in a variety of roles at the NFL level on the offensive side and special teams.

Bet against Tommy. You did it preseason, might as well double down.

To quote a famous movie “Bold move Cotton, Let’s see if it pays off”.

So to the contrary, you think Tommy will be an NFL QB?

Yeah. People said the same things about Lamar Jackson but he keeps proving people wrong. I think Tommy will test off the charts, make a team, and if he gets a chance will perform. I won’t bet against him, would you?

LOL, everyone in the country had Lamar Jackson as a 1st rounder. Nobody in the country has Tommy as a first rounder, not even his mom. Tommy is a question of "Will he get drafted".

Lamar Jackson was a finalist for the Heisman.

You are REALLY stretching the limits of 'people said' on this one.

https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... and-browns

Wrong. Bill Polian infamously said Lamar should switch to WR. He wasn't alone in questioning whether he was an NFL caliber QB. Its embarrassing how often your wrong on here.
https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/lama ... nship-game

Edited to add this. Lamar was a Heisman winning QB but wasn't selected till the dead last pick in the first round. Heck even Tebow was taken 15th and he had much worse mechanics and numbers than Lamar. I challenge you to find another Heisman winning QB taken that late in the modern era. Plenty questioned his ability to play QB in the NFL.

LOL, your own link said that everyone thought Polian was an out of touch racist.

Sure, the link you provided proves my point…but I’m the one who’s wrong.

lol