Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Good for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
My guess would be that Entz was available now, Vigen wanted to wait for season to be over.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
We can speculate all day long about what we think will happen, but I agree with the poster earlier in this thread who said that we wouldn't be hearing Vigen's name come up as a candidate for all these jobs if there wasn't at least some level of interest on his end as well as theirs. The biggest thing working in MSU's favor is the timing of the transfer portal. Fresno State appears to be going with the guy who's available now instead of potentially waiting a month for Coach Vigen to be available if MSU's season extends all the way to the National Championship game.nanacat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:56 amI know moving up is a goal for most, getting bigger and better opportunities, but what keeps a guy in one place to build a winning program? Besides the money. Vigen played and coached at NDSU, a tremendously successful FCS program with the most National Championships and multiple players in or having been in the NFL. Every year, for alot of years, they're in the top 3, if not #1.
With what Vigen has built at MSU, and players have commented on the program being built in their interviews, what if his goal isn't to move onto the next bigger, better thing, but to build MSU into a program like the DSUs? To compete at the national championship level every year, to place guys in the best spots to get NFL opportunities. He's got 2 sons at MSU, (will have), so maybe he'd like them to be on a National Championship team. With the BAC and indoor facility, MSU is knocking on the door of being in the same conversation annually as the DSUs, and frankly has been since Vigen came here. Maybe, just maybe, he sees a future here making MSU the best FCS football program in the nation.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Is Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno

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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Another example that proves Chaote’s line of thinking that FBS coordinators are more valued for these vacancies than FCS head coaches. If Vigen does have his eyes set higher, we very well might see him go to be a coordinator at an elite program over a HC at a mediocre FBS teamLTown Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:26 amIs Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno![]()
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
He’s already done that!CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:05 pmAnother example that proves Chaote’s line of thinking that FBS coordinators are more valued for these vacancies than FCS head coaches. If Vigen does have his eyes set higher, we very well might see him go to be a coordinator at an elite program over a HC at a mediocre FBS teamLTown Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:26 amIs Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno![]()
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Wyoming is an elite program?Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:38 pmHe’s already done that!CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:05 pmAnother example that proves Chaote’s line of thinking that FBS coordinators are more valued for these vacancies than FCS head coaches. If Vigen does have his eyes set higher, we very well might see him go to be a coordinator at an elite program over a HC at a mediocre FBS teamLTown Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:26 amIs Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno![]()
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
I can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Would Vigen getting a HC gig from his current situation surprise me? No. But it sure seems like, at the moment, G5 schools prefer to get their head coaches from the coaching staffs of prestigious schools over head coaches from FCS schools. Choate buoy a program from the rubble and had to go be a ST coach at Texas to get his Nevada jobBelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 pmI can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
I don’t see him being in a hurry with his atmosphere and his family here. I could be wrong. I see him holding out for something a little closer to what Klieman (sp) did coming from North Dakota State to KSU.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 pmI can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Co-defensive coordinator and ILB coach.CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:04 pmWould Vigen getting a HC gig from his current situation surprise me? No. But it sure seems like, at the moment, G5 schools prefer to get their head coaches from the coaching staffs of prestigious schools over head coaches from FCS schools. Choate buoy a program from the rubble and had to go be a ST coach at Texas to get his Nevada jobBelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 pmI can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
My bad. I still stand by the point, thoughAFCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:16 pmCo-defensive coordinator and ILB coach.CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:04 pmWould Vigen getting a HC gig from his current situation surprise me? No. But it sure seems like, at the moment, G5 schools prefer to get their head coaches from the coaching staffs of prestigious schools over head coaches from FCS schools. Choate buoy a program from the rubble and had to go be a ST coach at Texas to get his Nevada jobBelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 pmI can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Maybe Vigen sees himself more in the mold of Craig Bohl and Chris Klieman than of Jeff Choate. Maybe his goal is to try to build this thing into a program like NDSU of Bohl/Klieman, where the names change but the results don't. And if he wins one this year, and a couple with his next qb, he'll get a job. Or, maybe he'll get it built and then become a MWC head coach at montana state.CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:28 pmMy bad. I still stand by the point, thoughAFCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:16 pmCo-defensive coordinator and ILB coach.CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:04 pmWould Vigen getting a HC gig from his current situation surprise me? No. But it sure seems like, at the moment, G5 schools prefer to get their head coaches from the coaching staffs of prestigious schools over head coaches from FCS schools. Choate buoy a program from the rubble and had to go be a ST coach at Texas to get his Nevada jobBelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 pmI can absolutely see Vigen leaving, but I don’t see him leaving to be an OC.
It really doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t anything super special as an OC at Wyoming, and he doesn’t call plays here. His value lies more in how he’s building/maintaining a program than as a play caller, imo.

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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Enter isn't a coordinator is he. Thought he is LB coachCalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:05 pmAnother example that proves Chaote’s line of thinking that FBS coordinators are more valued for these vacancies than FCS head coaches. If Vigen does have his eyes set higher, we very well might see him go to be a coordinator at an elite program over a HC at a mediocre FBS teamLTown Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:26 amIs Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno![]()
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You’re right, I should have said FBS assistant coach, not coordinator specificallytetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:51 pmEnter isn't a coordinator is he. Thought he is LB coachCalgaryCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:05 pmAnother example that proves Chaote’s line of thinking that FBS coordinators are more valued for these vacancies than FCS head coaches. If Vigen does have his eyes set higher, we very well might see him go to be a coordinator at an elite program over a HC at a mediocre FBS teamLTown Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:26 amIs Entz coaching with or without his braces? Those are worth 10 points in the coaching scorebook.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:21 amGood for the Cats, but I personally think Vigen is a much better candidate than Entz. Who knows, maybe Vigen turned them down and they went to Entz.4KornerKat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:11 amhttps://bsky.app/profile/brucefeldmancf ... ijyqs5fs2a
Looks like Entz to Fresno![]()
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Re: Vigen Front Runner for Fresno State HC Position
Entz is an awful pick but great news for MSU. At least for now.
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Yeah-- after his first year he was just 44-11-- which sounds great, but is very mediocre by the standards Bohl and Kleiman set. Before he took over it had been nine years since NDSU had lost more than two games. And the trend was not going the right way.
Maybe he has some great intangible abilities, but seems like a mediocre hire.
Maybe he has some great intangible abilities, but seems like a mediocre hire.
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Yeah i agree, he didn't get fired at NDSU but the natives were getting restless. Whether he was the guy holding the bag when they inevitably, finally started to come back to the pack, or he did a bad job causing them to come back to the pack, the end result was the same. I never cared for his style either, but he's got the 2 nattys, to his credit. Glad it's him not Vigen.