Homegrown players

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Wow, no doubt. What about a kid that grew up a mile from the state border... can he get an exception and be included in the "care more' club? lol. How bout them Coon brothers... damm Wyomin's. Or my personal favorite... I but if Travis Lulay would have been from two dot he would have worked harder, been better, and cared more about the rivalry. That streak breaker would have been way more convincing than 10-7.

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I think this topic has run its course and really isn't doing anyone any good.

[ClowderUp]

I think this topic has run its course and really isn't doing anyone any good.

Thank you. This thread has been really embarrassing. Maybe a mod can lock it.

[onceacat]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

[onceacat]

To disregard the comment “Montana players care more”, is either being guarded or disingenuous, because it is mostly the truth. You can put in as much work as the other guy, but caring is both a feeling and actionable term. Montanas do care more for the most part, because duh, they grew up here. I love out of state guys (just not the yuppies moving to Montana), and we wouldn’t be here as a program without them, but both can be true. If you don’t think that your to scared to say it out loud, due to the fine line all of us walk. Go cats and look forward to next month.

How did Jeff Choate manage to win all those Brawls without being from Montana? Especially against Bobby who cares a lot more about the Brawl cause he's from the right area code?

[technoCat]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

I don't begrudge Ifanse his choice but San Jose State is hardly an elite academic institution.

[Monymony]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

Ifanse left to get his draft stock up and get paid. I love Prukop but that guy rode the bench. Do you think guys like Wehr, Grebe, and Tommy didn’t have incredible opportunities. Yet they all turned down lots of $ and in some cases better degrees just to play for Montana State. To generalize and say all Montana guys work harder is unfair but I have confidence saying that it means significantly more to those guys.

[AFCAT]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

Ifanse left to get his draft stock up and get paid. I love Prukop but that guy rode the bench. Do you think guys like Wehr, Grebe, and Tommy didn’t have incredible opportunities. Yet they all turned down lots of $ and in some cases better degrees just to play for Montana State. To generalize and say all Montana guys work harder is unfair but I have confidence saying that it means significantly more to those guys.

Connor Moore was offered big money to leave last year and stayed. I hope he continues to be a Bobcat for his whole career.

[onceacat]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

Ifanse left to get his draft stock up and get paid. I love Prukop but that guy rode the bench. Do you think guys like Wehr, Grebe, and Tommy didn’t have incredible opportunities. Yet they all turned down lots of $ and in some cases better degrees just to play for Montana State. To generalize and say all Montana guys work harder is unfair but I have confidence saying that it means significantly more to those guys.

This is hard to take seriously. Ifanse wasn't next level talent, and I'm pretty sure he was told that.

To classify Prukop as a bench rider is....odd, considering he started 5 or 6 games & passed for 1200+ yards before he got benched in favor of current NFL QB Justin Herbert. (Prukop put up big numbers, but the Oregon D was atrocious that year...sound familiar?)

What offers for better schools did Tommy or Brody turn down?

[onceacat]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

Ifanse left to get his draft stock up and get paid. I love Prukop but that guy rode the bench. Do you think guys like Wehr, Grebe, and Tommy didn’t have incredible opportunities. Yet they all turned down lots of $ and in some cases better degrees just to play for Montana State. To generalize and say all Montana guys work harder is unfair but I have confidence saying that it means significantly more to those guys.

Connor Moore was offered big money to leave last year and stayed. I hope he continues to be a Bobcat for his whole career.

What did he turn down? Regardless, I'm super psyched he stuck around. Also, hes from Ohio, not Montana...so that sort of undermines the point of the thread that Montana dudes want it more.

[onceacat]

There was a giant reunion of former Bobcat players who played when I first started covering MSU in the early 2010s at the game. Mitch Herbert, West Wilson, Isaiah Ifanse, Damien Washington (who lives in Bozeman), Dakota Prukop, Elvis Akpla, Anthony Cosme-Peko, Julius Lloyd, Willie Patterson....

None of those guys are from Montana...all absolutely LOVE Montana and are the proudest Bobcats around. I promise you guys like Elvis Akpla, Mitch Herbert, Dakota Prukop worked just as hard if not harder than anyone Montana State has had during their MSU careers....

My question though, if Montana State meant so much to Ifanse and Prukop why did they leave?

I'm not sure if thats intended to be a serious question or not.

Ifanse was a 6th year senior who already had a graduate degree & was offered a chance to get another graduate degree at one of the most elite academic institutions in the country. Of course he jumped on that, as would any kid who gave a damn about academics. And thats without even getting to the football reasons to play at a Pac 12 program. Totally insane argument. Every single parent tells every single kid to take that opportunity.

Prukop had a chance to be the starting QB at an FBS national championship contender. And he had graduated. And the OC that he loved had just been fired. Again, it's a choice that 99.9% of Montana born and bred kids would take.

They left because the offers were orders of magnitude better than what MSU could offer.

I don't begrudge Ifanse his choice but San Jose State is hardly an elite academic institution.

Yeah, but Berkely is. But your point about his original choice is taken.

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[Rocker4]

Missing Grebe…

[tetoncat]

Crazy how many on D, but few on offense.

[coloradocat]

It's too bad Troy didn't win Offensive POY in 2018. Winning FOY, OPOY and DPOY would be an unbreakable record.