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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by rfischer94 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am

Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.



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Post by BleedingBLue » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am

rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by rfischer94 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by technoCat » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am

rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by Long Time Cat » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:10 pm

technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
Larison was the go to guy all night. When under pressure you go to that guy. Fortunately for us it was the wrong guy in this case.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm

technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
I don't know about flawless. I re-watched the two plays where pass interference was called and I don't see enough for that call to be made in the end zone and the one over on the sidelines has no replay, but watching it live I thought it was offensive PI without question and was stunned when it wasn't called, then when I watched the replay and heard Gregorak thinking the same thing and Ben talking about how livid Vigen was, I have still have my doubts there. I'm not taking anything away from UCD, because they fought their butts off, but they don't make it close without the first PI and it makes the second one irrelevant if it goes as a no call. You never know though, UCD might get a turnover right after that or a safety or ....??

But you're right, everything had been going their way, and they were due to screw up at some point.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by bcats » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:37 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm
technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
I don't know about flawless. I re-watched the two plays where pass interference was called and I don't see enough for that call to be made in the end zone and the one over on the sidelines has no replay, but watching it live I thought it was offensive PI without question and was stunned when it wasn't called, then when I watched the replay and heard Gregorak thinking the same thing and Ben talking about how livid Vigen was, I have still have my doubts there. I'm not taking anything away from UCD, because they fought their butts off, but they don't make it close without the first PI and it makes the second one irrelevant if it goes as a no call. You never know though, UCD might get a turnover right after that or a safety or ....??

But you're right, everything had been going their way, and they were due to screw up at some point.
I watched the replay of the game again last night and I still don't understand why no one is talking about the Larison fumble right after the 4th and goal PI that wasn't. He fumbles the ball with a clear MSU recovery reaching for the goaline. It was called he was down by contact and Davis hurries up and runs a play quickly where they do score. Only a quick replay in between but he clearly fumbled and wasn't close to being down. MSU probably has to call a timeout to get the call reviewed but none of this happens without that TD.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:39 pm

GoCats18 wrote:
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It looked to us (the PI was just down the field to the left of us) that it was CLEARLY offensive, even all of the UCD fans around us thought so and new it was coming back. We were all stunned that it was called defensive.
I was almost more shocked by how excited his voice was to call it defensive PI and say 1st down Davis. I just wish there was a view of it on the broadcast that we could have actually have seen it.
It was either the field judge or back judge that threw the flag. You can tell by Johnson’s and Vigen’s reactions that it was a bad call. Johnson is complaining before he even stands up.

The third replay of the first one on Powdrell shows that it was a bad call. There’s nothing about that play that is pass interference on him. Horrible call. Thankfully it didn’t change the outcome.

MSU was decidedly the better team. I can give ucd credit for its run defense but that’s it.
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That dog was so damn cool!!! I hope every college does that someday and then they have a tournament for them at the end of the year. LOL! UCD also had a cool dog race at halftime or between quarters. Fun stuff.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by 77matman » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:42 pm

Wonder if you can train a quarter horse to do that.
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Post by catatac » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:54 pm

In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.


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Post by wbtfg » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm

catatac wrote:
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In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.
No doubt. SVP referenced that terrible call on bad beats.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by catatac » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:54 pm
In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.
No doubt. SVP referenced that terrible call on bad beats.
One more to add, I just watched Tootell and Nuanez, Tootell commented on the play where it was 30 to 8 and UCD clearly fumbled trying to score that TD and the Cats covered. He said it was 100% a fumble... no review. That is just one in another long string of plays that nail the coffin. I don't get that.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by BleedingBLue » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:38 pm

catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:54 pm
In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.
No doubt. SVP referenced that terrible call on bad beats.
One more to add, I just watched Tootell and Nuanez, Tootell commented on the play where it was 30 to 8 and UCD clearly fumbled trying to score that TD and the Cats covered. He said it was 100% a fumble... no review. That is just one in another long string of plays that nail the coffin. I don't get that.
BSC officiating has steadily gotten worse over the past 5 years. The main problem is the older guys are all retiring, and the options for younger guys are much more slim than they used to be. Officiating in every sport at all levels is suffering from a major shortage. There is currently an official in the BSC who did high school for 2 years, went to the right camps and has the right look, and is doing BSC games in year 3 of his officiating career. That's a problem. These guys get evaluated weekly, but the most they get are critiques and criticism. The BSC used to have the ability to suspend crews for huge mistakes or errors in rules applications, and now they're lucky to be able to suspend one guy at a time and still have enough bodies.

When it comes to replay review, I have zero idea what's going on there. There's absolutely no consistency and it's anyone's guess what will and won't be reviewed.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by tetoncat » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:25 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:38 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:54 pm
In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.
No doubt. SVP referenced that terrible call on bad beats.
One more to add, I just watched Tootell and Nuanez, Tootell commented on the play where it was 30 to 8 and UCD clearly fumbled trying to score that TD and the Cats covered. He said it was 100% a fumble... no review. That is just one in another long string of plays that nail the coffin. I don't get that.
BSC officiating has steadily gotten worse over the past 5 years. The main problem is the older guys are all retiring, and the options for younger guys are much more slim than they used to be. Officiating in every sport at all levels is suffering from a major shortage. There is currently an official in the BSC who did high school for 2 years, went to the right camps and has the right look, and is doing BSC games in year 3 of his officiating career. That's a problem. These guys get evaluated weekly, but the most they get are critiques and criticism. The BSC used to have the ability to suspend crews for huge mistakes or errors in rules applications, and now they're lucky to be able to suspend one guy at a time and still have enough bodies.

When it comes to replay review, I have zero idea what's going on there. There's absolutely no consistency and it's anyone's guess what will and won't be reviewed.
2 years in MT and you can't even do a playoff game.

I also don't understand the reluctance to review plays. Maybe lack of camera angles so they don't bother.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by coloradocat » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:10 am

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:25 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:38 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:54 pm
In the "I can't believe nobody is talking about this" category... there was a PI call against the Cats late that was completely bogus. Like, not even close.
No doubt. SVP referenced that terrible call on bad beats.
One more to add, I just watched Tootell and Nuanez, Tootell commented on the play where it was 30 to 8 and UCD clearly fumbled trying to score that TD and the Cats covered. He said it was 100% a fumble... no review. That is just one in another long string of plays that nail the coffin. I don't get that.
BSC officiating has steadily gotten worse over the past 5 years. The main problem is the older guys are all retiring, and the options for younger guys are much more slim than they used to be. Officiating in every sport at all levels is suffering from a major shortage. There is currently an official in the BSC who did high school for 2 years, went to the right camps and has the right look, and is doing BSC games in year 3 of his officiating career. That's a problem. These guys get evaluated weekly, but the most they get are critiques and criticism. The BSC used to have the ability to suspend crews for huge mistakes or errors in rules applications, and now they're lucky to be able to suspend one guy at a time and still have enough bodies.

When it comes to replay review, I have zero idea what's going on there. There's absolutely no consistency and it's anyone's guess what will and won't be reviewed.
2 years in MT and you can't even do a playoff game.

I also don't understand the reluctance to review plays. Maybe lack of camera angles so they don't bother.
You'd think there would be enough camera angles for Scripps games but they may only broadcast MSU and Missoula games. If that's the case then that's another downside to being in the BSC/FCS. Too many teams that don't have a fanbase so they put out a minimal broadcast which means there's no parity for video review across the league.


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by asstastic » Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:51 pm

So I went back and watched my on demand game. The camera guy for the 20th time was lost and completely missed the PI call on the sideline that everyone is talking about. Does anyone have a link of that footage?


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by KIX » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm

bcats wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm
technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
I don't know about flawless. I re-watched the two plays where pass interference was called and I don't see enough for that call to be made in the end zone and the one over on the sidelines has no replay, but watching it live I thought it was offensive PI without question and was stunned when it wasn't called, then when I watched the replay and heard Gregorak thinking the same thing and Ben talking about how livid Vigen was, I have still have my doubts there. I'm not taking anything away from UCD, because they fought their butts off, but they don't make it close without the first PI and it makes the second one irrelevant if it goes as a no call. You never know though, UCD might get a turnover right after that or a safety or ....??

But you're right, everything had been going their way, and they were due to screw up at some point.
I watched the replay of the game again last night and I still don't understand why no one is talking about the Larison fumble right after the 4th and goal PI that wasn't. He fumbles the ball with a clear MSU recovery reaching for the goaline. It was called he was down by contact and Davis hurries up and runs a play quickly where they do score. Only a quick replay in between but he clearly fumbled and wasn't close to being down. MSU probably has to call a timeout to get the call reviewed but none of this happens without that TD.
I did the same thing. Have heard this week that it definitely should have at least been reviewed. Looked like the ball came out into the endzone as he was prone to the ground with no body part down.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:28 pm

KIX wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm
bcats wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm
technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
I don't know about flawless. I re-watched the two plays where pass interference was called and I don't see enough for that call to be made in the end zone and the one over on the sidelines has no replay, but watching it live I thought it was offensive PI without question and was stunned when it wasn't called, then when I watched the replay and heard Gregorak thinking the same thing and Ben talking about how livid Vigen was, I have still have my doubts there. I'm not taking anything away from UCD, because they fought their butts off, but they don't make it close without the first PI and it makes the second one irrelevant if it goes as a no call. You never know though, UCD might get a turnover right after that or a safety or ....??

But you're right, everything had been going their way, and they were due to screw up at some point.
I watched the replay of the game again last night and I still don't understand why no one is talking about the Larison fumble right after the 4th and goal PI that wasn't. He fumbles the ball with a clear MSU recovery reaching for the goaline. It was called he was down by contact and Davis hurries up and runs a play quickly where they do score. Only a quick replay in between but he clearly fumbled and wasn't close to being down. MSU probably has to call a timeout to get the call reviewed but none of this happens without that TD.
I did the same thing. Have heard this week that it definitely should have at least been reviewed. Looked like the ball came out into the endzone as he was prone to the ground with no body part down.
I think one could argue he crossed the line before the fumble.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by 77matman » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:22 pm

That was my initial take.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - UC Davis

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:46 am

KIX wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm
bcats wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm
technoCat wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:59 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:31 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:30 am
rfischer94 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 am
Why do you all think Hastings threw that pick? He had a dude wide open in the back of the end zone.
Pressure. Two kinds. DL pressure, and pressure pressure.
That's what I was thinking.
Because Davis had made like 20 flawless plays in a row where everything went their way and they were due to screw up...

And pressure! :lol:
I don't know about flawless. I re-watched the two plays where pass interference was called and I don't see enough for that call to be made in the end zone and the one over on the sidelines has no replay, but watching it live I thought it was offensive PI without question and was stunned when it wasn't called, then when I watched the replay and heard Gregorak thinking the same thing and Ben talking about how livid Vigen was, I have still have my doubts there. I'm not taking anything away from UCD, because they fought their butts off, but they don't make it close without the first PI and it makes the second one irrelevant if it goes as a no call. You never know though, UCD might get a turnover right after that or a safety or ....??

But you're right, everything had been going their way, and they were due to screw up at some point.
I watched the replay of the game again last night and I still don't understand why no one is talking about the Larison fumble right after the 4th and goal PI that wasn't. He fumbles the ball with a clear MSU recovery reaching for the goaline. It was called he was down by contact and Davis hurries up and runs a play quickly where they do score. Only a quick replay in between but he clearly fumbled and wasn't close to being down. MSU probably has to call a timeout to get the call reviewed but none of this happens without that TD.
I did the same thing. Have heard this week that it definitely should have at least been reviewed. Looked like the ball came out into the endzone as he was prone to the ground with no body part down.
Gus Tootell went ballistic on that call on his show with Colter.


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