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Another important aspect of getting playing time as a RB is your ability to pass protect. I'm not sure how they rate as pass protectors but that's another aspect in getting playing time and getting on the field.
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If UNLV money wasn't enough for him, MSU won't have enough either. Regardless of who you think is lying about the situation (him or the school) I want a QB who wants to be a Bobcat, not a hired gun.
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Just too much we don't know at this time. It might not have been a situation where it wasn't ENOUGH money. We don't know what he was offered. But if you believe the player, it was the fact that he was promised a certain amount, and not given the amount promised. I don't care if it's college sports or a career in business; if you are promised a figure and then not given it, I can't say I'd blame the person.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:39 amIf UNLV money wasn't enough for him, MSU won't have enough either. Regardless of who you think is lying about the situation (him or the school) I want a QB who wants to be a Bobcat, not a hired gun.
This will be an interesting story to follow.

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Sluka may have a totally valid point if he really wasn't paid the amount he was promised, but at the same time the four game redshirt rule gives players a lot of power in the "wild west" era of the Transfer Portal. Play well in your first few games and have your agent try to negotiate a better NIL deal. If you don't get it, bail on your team and hit the Portal while preserving your year of eligibility in the process.
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These guys want to be treated like adults and then get mad when someone they don't know offers them a verbal promise and doesn't follow through. Welcome to adulthood. If Sluka and his dad and his agent can't figure how to sign contracts I don't feel that bad for them. He obviously only went there for the (promise of) money so I wouldn't want him.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:51 amJust too much we don't know at this time. It might not have been a situation where it wasn't ENOUGH money. We don't know what he was offered. But if you believe the player, it was the fact that he was promised a certain amount, and not given the amount promised. I don't care if it's college sports or a career in business; if you are promised a figure and then not given it, I can't say I'd blame the person.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:39 amIf UNLV money wasn't enough for him, MSU won't have enough either. Regardless of who you think is lying about the situation (him or the school) I want a QB who wants to be a Bobcat, not a hired gun.
This will be an interesting story to follow.![]()
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Would be real shame he becomes a cautionary tale and ends up on a bad team next year.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:12 amSluka may have a totally valid point if he really wasn't paid the amount he was promised, but at the same time the four game redshirt rule gives players a lot of power in the "wild west" era of the Transfer Portal. Play well in your first few games and have your agent try to negotiate a better NIL deal. If you don't get it, bail on your team and hit the Portal while preserving your year of eligibility in the process.
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You may be right. I don't know enough of the story. I don't know how the contract was set up, what was offered, or what he received. If it was just a verbal promise and they negated on that then I REALLY don't blame him for leaving. I think if this is the case than he IS being an adult and is looking for a better situation.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:13 amThese guys want to be treated like adults and then get mad when someone they don't know offers them a verbal promise and doesn't follow through. Welcome to adulthood. If Sluka and his dad and his agent can't figure how to sign contracts I don't feel that bad for them. He obviously only went there for the (promise of) money so I wouldn't want him.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:51 amJust too much we don't know at this time. It might not have been a situation where it wasn't ENOUGH money. We don't know what he was offered. But if you believe the player, it was the fact that he was promised a certain amount, and not given the amount promised. I don't care if it's college sports or a career in business; if you are promised a figure and then not given it, I can't say I'd blame the person.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:39 amIf UNLV money wasn't enough for him, MSU won't have enough either. Regardless of who you think is lying about the situation (him or the school) I want a QB who wants to be a Bobcat, not a hired gun.
This will be an interesting story to follow.![]()
It'd be like if my son was promised a $10,000 bonus at his job and after 6 months he didn't get a cent. I'd personally feel bad for him. And I'd expect him to find another situation in which he WOULD get that money. One, because it's money! Lol. But two, I wouldn't want him in a place where they lied to get what they wanted.
Again, this is all based on if what he claims is true. It could come out that he is completely fabricating what took place. But if what he is claiming turns out to be true, I'd think he was crazy to not pursue other options.
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Just saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
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think of the future options... SEC school offers to pay, and does pay, NIL for an opponents starting QB to redshirt and transfer.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:39 amIf UNLV money wasn't enough for him, MSU won't have enough either. Regardless of who you think is lying about the situation (him or the school) I want a QB who wants to be a Bobcat, not a hired gun.
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Was planning on driving home after the Idaho game but with these prices I’m inclined to spend the night!
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I read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
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Forbes, Yahoo, and MSN are all reporting that the $100k was verbal (and UNLV/collective deny this), the $12k was verbal and currently in discussions, and that $3k was paid for (two reports) (1) an appearance paid by the collective or (2) moving expenses.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
My understanding is that no contract is required up front because of the vagaries of NIL rules and that third parties are technically in charge of giving athletes the deals. Regardless, for that amount of money, why wouldn't he require it to be contractual? If neither offer ($100k/$12k) was contractually executed or memorialized in some fashion, then my limited knowledge tells me Mr. Sluka is at fault for not having this in proper legal requirements and thus has no recourse. For those in a better legal position on this than me - please provide input. He was represented by an NIL attorney and also went to Holy Cross for 4 years - I'm assuming there is at least one business class on Contracts?
Hate to see this as it adds another layer of scum to this already messed up issue.
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Oh boy. UNLV having more issues with their NIL transfers.
UNLV RB Michael Allen announces plan to redshirt, enter transfer portal
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UNLV RB Michael Allen announces plan to redshirt, enter transfer portal
https://www.on3.com/news/michael-allen- ... hew-sluka/#
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I was under the impression that coaches have line between them and the NIL (collective or individual)The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pmI read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
I think that both UNLV and Saluka both come off as pretty shady
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With the second player also leaving today it sounds to me like UNLV may have had a rogue assistant coach making promises to players he had no ability or authority to keep once the players actually showed up on campus.cats2506 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:57 pmI was under the impression that coaches have line between them and the NIL (collective or individual)The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pmI read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
I think that both UNLV and Saluka both come off as pretty shady
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Anything is possible. But I'd be shocked if an assistant coach was just running around promising people hundreds of thousands of dollars without the coach or others knowing about it. Seems like that would be a way to lose your job very quickly.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:02 pmWith the second player also leaving today it sounds to me like UNLV may have had a rogue assistant coach making promises to players he had no ability or authority to keep once the players actually showed up on campus.cats2506 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:57 pmI was under the impression that coaches have line between them and the NIL (collective or individual)The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pmI read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
I think that both UNLV and Saluka both come off as pretty shady
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Well, he definitely wouldn't be the first assistant coach to do stupid things and then lose his job because of it!ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:09 pmAnything is possible. But I'd be shocked if an assistant coach was just running around promising people hundreds of thousands of dollars without the coach or others knowing about it. Seems like that would be a way to lose your job very quickly.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:02 pmWith the second player also leaving today it sounds to me like UNLV may have had a rogue assistant coach making promises to players he had no ability or authority to keep once the players actually showed up on campus.cats2506 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:57 pmI was under the impression that coaches have line between them and the NIL (collective or individual)The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pmI read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
I think that both UNLV and Saluka both come off as pretty shady
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I assume most FBS teams have "officially rogue" assistants. They are given authority to make unenforceable promises, not enforceable ones. That way the team can say that they are following whatever rules there might be and if everything is unofficial the head coach can say he isn't aware of any agreements with players, before or after signing.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:09 pmAnything is possible. But I'd be shocked if an assistant coach was just running around promising people hundreds of thousands of dollars without the coach or others knowing about it. Seems like that would be a way to lose your job very quickly.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:02 pmWith the second player also leaving today it sounds to me like UNLV may have had a rogue assistant coach making promises to players he had no ability or authority to keep once the players actually showed up on campus.cats2506 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:57 pmI was under the impression that coaches have line between them and the NIL (collective or individual)The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pmI read that it was an assistant coach, not the head coach or anyone involved with the NIL organization, who made the $100K promise. It seems the player only received $3,000 for relocation, with no additional commitments from those in charge of the finances. When tensions began to rise, there was an offer of $3,000 per month during the football season (totaling $12,000), but that amount clearly wasn’t enough to keep him around.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:54 amJust saw a tweet that said he was promised 100K to begin with. When the contract was signed it was only for 12K. And of that 12K he received zero. If this ends up being the case I don't know how anybody in their right mind would blame him for moving on and playing somewhere else next year.
I think that both UNLV and Saluka both come off as pretty shady
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