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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:59 pm

I got to thinking about the indoor facility and how large it is. The peak of the indoor roof is 70' high. It's tough to gauge how high 70 feet is, so I was trying to come up with something to compare it to. I'm not exactly sure how high the press box and West grandstands are, but I would guess in the 80 foot range. I found an article that stated the stadium lights are 110 feet high. Then, I thought about the new scoreboard and its relation to the field. If I'm reading this plan correctly, the scoreboard itself is about 68' 9" high at the top of the audio cabinet. So, the indoor in relation to the playing surface will be slightly higher than the top of the scoreboard audio cabinet in Bobcat Stadium. I guess hitting the indoor roof won't be an issue for kickers. :shock:

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90' 8" field level is the starting point to the 149' 11" top of scoreboard roof equals 59' 3", plus 9' 6" tall audio cabinet equals a total height of 68' 9". Did I do that correctly? I don't read plans for a living.

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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:30 pm

Now just need to figure out how deep the field is from the west grandstand entrance. 10 feet? I was thinking the west grandstand is about 60’ high from the parking lot. So I thought the new building is about 10’ higher. ???


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by MSU01 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:48 pm

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/e ... um.325024/

Some good mathematical calculations here of average punt height. It also mentions that the scoreboard in the Dallas Cowboys stadium is 90 feet off the ground and has been hit by punts during games. Thank goodness kicking nets exist, I guess!



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:54 pm

I’m not sure how much football teams practice punt returns with actual punts. I’ve been in the Louisville facility and it’s only 65’ high. I don’t think punters can rip off a whole bunch of punts every practice whether it’s inside or outside. Just not sure how teams work this.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:22 pm

Crew is working on footings today. About 1/3 poured, 1/3 framed.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:54 pm

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Crew is working on footings today. About 1/3 poured, 1/3 framed.
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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:12 pm

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From Stevo and his blimp.

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I like this shot because it shows the proximity (industrial workflow) improvement of having the IAC on the stadium side of Kagy Blvd. Takes the hassle of crossing Kagy out of the picture (no pun intended) and shows the ability of using the westside grandstand concourse to move to and from the BAC. I never liked the tunnel or bridge proposal simply because walking in cleats up and down stairs can be cumbersome. Any time you can keep everything on one level it's a plus.
I stepped off the distance from the BAC door (no pun intended) to the front door of the IAC yesterday. It's 185 steps (about 400 feet) with 80 in the concourse. No stairs, no street(s) to cross. I'd consider heated concrete between those three buildings, if it were my job. Maybe that's what they're doing. ???


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by RICO CAT » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:57 pm

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Maybe something like this can be utilized for part of that distance


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:21 pm

RICO CAT wrote:
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Maybe something like this can be utilized for part of that distance
Yeah, very cool. I didn’t realize such a thing existed.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by MSU01 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:08 pm

Bobcat football teams have been practicing outdoors in bad weather for over a century and now we're worried about them needing to walk outside around the stadium from the football building to the Indoor Practice Facility? Times have most definitely changed.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by BobcatDel » Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:17 pm

AFCAT wrote:
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So what was said at the groundbreaking?

Pretty much what Leon says in his speech. Costello, Lamberty, Cruzado, Vigen, Ortt, Wolff (women’s track athlete), and Weese spoke. Everyone kind of echoed the same themes of thanking the donors and talking about the importance of the facility and how big of a deal it will be for both programs and the university as a whole. How training on a larger 300 meter track is better than a 200 meter track. Sorry gris fans. The importance for distance runners being able to run inside during inclement weather events. Not having to set up and break down some of the track stuff (throwing areas, high jump, etc) before and after training and a bunch of other stuff.

Like I wrote previously, Lamberty mentioned that the indoor will be used for competition and training, so I’m guessing that means track meets wont be in the Brick any longer or not as often as they are now, which isn’t really that often, once or twice a year.

If you click on the 406 logo on the videos above, it will take you to YouTube and I see all of the speeches are posted there.
The only thing I might add is that there were also comments made that the facility would be open for other athletic programs and the public/community would have the opportunity to obtain time slots for use. Truly a multipurpose facility benefiting track&field and football but also a broader spectrum of the campus and community. Well done!



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by BobcatDel » Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:31 pm

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I went by the new fitness center to take some photos but the street and sidewalks were blocked off, so I had to take them from different angles than I have before. Looks like they are working on turning part of West Grant into the new pedestrian walkway soon.

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During graduation and reunion week, I attended a presentation on the facility expansions underway and planned. Just fyi on your comment on the Grant pedestrian walkway, the design of the walkway was shown…of course Grant will be closed to vehicles from the east end near the sub/Asbjornson Hall all the way to 11th….it has a nice esthetic design featuring the geography of Montana from east to west….the plains and grasslands represented on the east through rock features representing the mountains then on to the forest lands in the west. Kinda creative I thought.

Just fyi, in case you wanted to know how much MSU is growing I captured the following numbers. Since President Cruzado came to MSU, the “footprint” of MSU facilities completed, under construction and planned has expanded the campus 31%!!! The completed and planned investment totals over $1.2B of which 90% has been privately funded!!! So proud of the university and its forward direction.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:37 pm

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Bobcat football teams have been practicing outdoors in bad weather for over a century and now we're worried about them needing to walk outside around the stadium from the football building to the Indoor Practice Facility? Times have most definitely changed.
I get what you’re saying but I’m wired to think that if you’re going to do something maximize the effect. I’d rather not need to use stairs to get across Kagy and the shorter and safer the trip from dressing room to practice site the better.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by MSU01 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:59 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:37 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:08 pm
Bobcat football teams have been practicing outdoors in bad weather for over a century and now we're worried about them needing to walk outside around the stadium from the football building to the Indoor Practice Facility? Times have most definitely changed.
I get what you’re saying but I’m wired to think that if you’re going to do something maximize the effect. I’d rather not need to use stairs to get across Kagy and the shorter and safer the trip from dressing room to practice site the better.
Fair point. I guess my personal opinion would be that doing anything to improve the safety hazard that is the east side grandstands when it's snowy/icy out would be a much better use of money than giving the football team an indoor tunnel for a 2-minute walk.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:11 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:59 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:37 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:08 pm
Bobcat football teams have been practicing outdoors in bad weather for over a century and now we're worried about them needing to walk outside around the stadium from the football building to the Indoor Practice Facility? Times have most definitely changed.
I get what you’re saying but I’m wired to think that if you’re going to do something maximize the effect. I’d rather not need to use stairs to get across Kagy and the shorter and safer the trip from dressing room to practice site the better.
Fair point. I guess my personal opinion would be that doing anything to improve the safety hazard that is the east side grandstands when it's snowy/icy out would be a much better use of money than giving the football team an indoor tunnel for a 2-minute walk.
okay i see what you're saying. That makes sense.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:14 pm

Just took a couple of pics of the foundation work today. I also took some of the parking lot, but I'll put those pics in that thread.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:42 pm

BobcatDel wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:31 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:46 pm
I went by the new fitness center to take some photos but the street and sidewalks were blocked off, so I had to take them from different angles than I have before. Looks like they are working on turning part of West Grant into the new pedestrian walkway soon.

During graduation and reunion week, I attended a presentation on the facility expansions underway and planned. Just fyi on your comment on the Grant pedestrian walkway, the design of the walkway was shown…of course Grant will be closed to vehicles from the east end near the sub/Asbjornson Hall all the way to 11th….it has a nice esthetic design featuring the geography of Montana from east to west….the plains and grasslands represented on the east through rock features representing the mountains then on to the forest lands in the west. Kinda creative I thought.

Just fyi, in case you wanted to know how much MSU is growing I captured the following numbers. Since President Cruzado came to MSU, the “footprint” of MSU facilities completed, under construction and planned has expanded the campus 31%!!! The completed and planned investment totals over $1.2B of which 90% has been privately funded!!! So proud of the university and its forward direction.
This was the rendering of the West Grant changes that was posted in this thread last November. Did you see anything different?

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AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:42 pm
BobcatDel wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:31 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:46 pm
I went by the new fitness center to take some photos but the street and sidewalks were blocked off, so I had to take them from different angles than I have before. Looks like they are working on turning part of West Grant into the new pedestrian walkway soon.

During graduation and reunion week, I attended a presentation on the facility expansions underway and planned. Just fyi on your comment on the Grant pedestrian walkway, the design of the walkway was shown…of course Grant will be closed to vehicles from the east end near the sub/Asbjornson Hall all the way to 11th….it has a nice esthetic design featuring the geography of Montana from east to west….the plains and grasslands represented on the east through rock features representing the mountains then on to the forest lands in the west. Kinda creative I thought.

Just fyi, in case you wanted to know how much MSU is growing I captured the following numbers. Since President Cruzado came to MSU, the “footprint” of MSU facilities completed, under construction and planned has expanded the campus 31%!!! The completed and planned investment totals over $1.2B of which 90% has been privately funded!!! So proud of the university and its forward direction.
This was the rendering of the West Grant changes that was posted in this thread last November. Did you see anything different?

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Looks like they constructed while looking at a mirror.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by MSU Toddler » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:05 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:42 pm
BobcatDel wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:31 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:46 pm
I went by the new fitness center to take some photos but the street and sidewalks were blocked off, so I had to take them from different angles than I have before. Looks like they are working on turning part of West Grant into the new pedestrian walkway soon.

During graduation and reunion week, I attended a presentation on the facility expansions underway and planned. Just fyi on your comment on the Grant pedestrian walkway, the design of the walkway was shown…of course Grant will be closed to vehicles from the east end near the sub/Asbjornson Hall all the way to 11th….it has a nice esthetic design featuring the geography of Montana from east to west….the plains and grasslands represented on the east through rock features representing the mountains then on to the forest lands in the west. Kinda creative I thought.

Just fyi, in case you wanted to know how much MSU is growing I captured the following numbers. Since President Cruzado came to MSU, the “footprint” of MSU facilities completed, under construction and planned has expanded the campus 31%!!! The completed and planned investment totals over $1.2B of which 90% has been privately funded!!! So proud of the university and its forward direction.
This was the rendering of the West Grant changes that was posted in this thread last November. Did you see anything different?

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I don't see the existing North and South Bubbles on that rendering. Wondering how permenant those will be? Still think it cool that MSU built an indoor practice bubble without hardly trying in addition to breaking ground on the state of the art facility!


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:25 pm

MSU Toddler wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:05 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:42 pm
BobcatDel wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:31 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:46 pm
I went by the new fitness center to take some photos but the street and sidewalks were blocked off, so I had to take them from different angles than I have before. Looks like they are working on turning part of West Grant into the new pedestrian walkway soon.

During graduation and reunion week, I attended a presentation on the facility expansions underway and planned. Just fyi on your comment on the Grant pedestrian walkway, the design of the walkway was shown…of course Grant will be closed to vehicles from the east end near the sub/Asbjornson Hall all the way to 11th….it has a nice esthetic design featuring the geography of Montana from east to west….the plains and grasslands represented on the east through rock features representing the mountains then on to the forest lands in the west. Kinda creative I thought.

Just fyi, in case you wanted to know how much MSU is growing I captured the following numbers. Since President Cruzado came to MSU, the “footprint” of MSU facilities completed, under construction and planned has expanded the campus 31%!!! The completed and planned investment totals over $1.2B of which 90% has been privately funded!!! So proud of the university and its forward direction.
This was the rendering of the West Grant changes that was posted in this thread last November. Did you see anything different?

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I don't see the existing North and South Bubbles on that rendering. Wondering how permenant those will be? Still think it cool that MSU built an indoor practice bubble without hardly trying in addition to breaking ground on the state of the art facility!
Apparently, if maintained well, they can last 15-20 years and higher end domes even longer.

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