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Post by Catsrgrood » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm

The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.


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Post by coloradocat » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:09 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
The TE room might be the largest position group on the team next year. :)


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by 91catAlum » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by mslacatfan » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:31 pm

Says lonyatta Alexander is a senior…. Is that accurate, thought he was only a soph last year?


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by Cataholic » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.
2018 - Redshirt
2019 - Freshman
2021 - sophomore
2022 - Junior
2023 - Senior

Maybe he gets an extra year due to Covid?



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by Catsrgrood » Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:24 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.
2018 - Redshirt
2019 - Freshman
2021 - sophomore
2022 - Junior
2023 - Senior

Maybe he gets an extra year due to Covid?
“Extra year” doesn’t work that way. 2020 just didn’t count towards anything.

It’d be a medical redshirt that he’d get for this year if he gets it.

No clue on what the parameters are for that and what kind of chance he has. But pretty cool it’s even a possibility.

The idea of Snell, Lonergran and Jones as our top 3 TE’s is pretty exciting.



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by MSU01 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:46 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.

I think someone from MSU saw this post because Valdez, Bailey, and Snell are all no longer listed on the roster. That's an absolutely huge senior class for next year, the window to win a championship is wide open next year if they can take advantage of it.



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by mslacatfan » Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:54 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:46 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.

I think someone from MSU saw this post because Valdez, Bailey, and Snell are all no longer listed on the roster. That's an absolutely huge senior class for next year, the window to win a championship is wide open next year if they can take advantage of it.
Yup. Huge senior class next year, tons of talent. Should be able to make a run at the chipper.


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by Catsrgrood » Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:13 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:46 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.

I think someone from MSU saw this post because Valdez, Bailey, and Snell are all no longer listed on the roster. That's an absolutely huge senior class for next year, the window to win a championship is wide open next year if they can take advantage of it.
Yep, looks like it. I guess you’ll have to take my word for it that Snell was listed along with Sain as “GR” at the time I made the original post.

Agreed on the seniors in general though, that is a ton of talent we have coming back, and in return, a ton of talent that we lose after next year. I wouldn’t call 2025 a rebuild necessarily, but I do think next year is as good of a chance as we’ve maybe had in years (and maybe as good as we’re going to have in a few years) to win the title when you pair what we have vs what NDSU and SDSU are losing this year in their senior class alone.



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:31 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.
2018 - Redshirt
2019 - Freshman
2021 - sophomore
2022 - Junior
2023 - Senior

Maybe he gets an extra year due to Covid?
Yeah it's basically what nearly every senior for SDSU did this year.


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by Rock Wankel » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:30 pm

Bear Old (Redshirt Freshman OL from Tiger, GA) is listed on the MSU Bobcats website roster as "(2023) left the program following the season".



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Post by Bozcat003 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm

Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback



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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:15 pm

Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm
Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback
Ugh. Don’t like that with Marsh.



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by Bozcat003 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:47 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:15 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm
Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback
Ugh. Don’t like that with Marsh.
Agreed - especially with such a lack of depth or experience at the interior defensive line spot. But who knows …



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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:37 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.
2018 - Redshirt
2019 - Freshman
2021 - sophomore
2022 - Junior
2023 - Senior

Maybe he gets an extra year due to Covid?
Yeah it's basically what nearly every senior for SDSU did this year.
Here's the way I understand it, tell me if I'm wrong:
Sdsu played the covid Spring season which doesn't count against their eligibility so they end up getting to play 5 "seasons". For teams that didn't play that spring season, like MSU, that missed season doesn't count against their eligiblity (basically an extra red shirt year) but they still only get to play games in 4 seasons. Is that correct?

Snell has already exhausted his 4. So he would have to apply for a medical red shirt in order to be granted another year of eligibility. But since he played in 6 games I don't think he'd qualify for that. The rule states you can have no more than 4 games played.


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by VimSince03 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:04 am

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:37 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:22 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:16 pm
The official roster is now updated.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... sort=class

As usual, it’s not to be fully trusted, Valdez is still listed, Kendric Bailey is still listed, etc.

The GR level guys are interesting though. We’ve heard Cole Sain plans to come back for another year. But Derryk Snell is listed as a GR now, not a SR like he previously was.

Anything to that? Or is that one of many things to not trust on the roster that never seems to be 100% accurate.
All transfers are still listed which is of course wrong. However, along with Sain, I have heard rumblings for over a month Derryk may get to use an additional year and be back next year hence the "GR" designation. Fingers crossed.
That would be incredible, but under what rule would he be allowed another year? As far as i know he played in 6 games this year.
2018 - Redshirt
2019 - Freshman
2021 - sophomore
2022 - Junior
2023 - Senior

Maybe he gets an extra year due to Covid?
Yeah it's basically what nearly every senior for SDSU did this year.
Here's the way I understand it, tell me if I'm wrong:
Sdsu played the covid Spring season which doesn't count against their eligibility so they end up getting to play 5 "seasons". For teams that didn't play that spring season, like MSU, that missed season doesn't count against their eligiblity (basically an extra red shirt year) but they still only get to play games in 4 seasons. Is that correct?

Snell has already exhausted his 4. So he would have to apply for a medical red shirt in order to be granted another year of eligibility. But since he played in 6 games I don't think he'd qualify for that. The rule states you can have no more than 4 games played.
Okay that makes sense. Must have just been tailgate talk!


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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by VimSince03 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:30 am

Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm
Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards, Bear Old, and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback
Aidan Parks and Aaron Richards will be graduating from MSU so they got their degrees. Armstrong was injured his first year which is a killer for PWOs. Bear Old didn't work his way into the two-deep and got beat out by freshman this past fall so he had a tall task to get back in the mix. Elijah is an interesting one because a year ago he was arguably beating out Ryan Lonergan for reps behind Pick and Snell. Then he played a ton this spring with Rylan Schlepp on the opposite team during the spring game. Then MSU signed Hunter Provience who was a highly touted recruit. Finally, after fall camp was done Elijah was suddenly 5th/6th on the depth chart behind Snell, Pick, Lonergan, Schlepp, and Provience. I think there was an injury in there but another competition situation where a kid got beat out. If he does end up transferring to UM to join his brother, he'll be competing against three TEs who are very well thought of over there. He's a CET which is a very specific major so I'm assuming he'd want to finish his schooling. Anyway, wish all these guys the best. Football is hard.

Aidan Parks was a classic example of a coaching change hurting his role. He was a tweener out of high school but his tape was so dominant as a LB. He just never got into the rotation at nickel, safety, or LB at MSU. He also suffered an injury on special teams against NDSU in his final game. Again, football is hard.

I don't love or hate the FB move for Talon Marsh. I'm willing to see how it goes at FB. He's certainly athletic enough and there is concern about his ability to add weight to hold up on the interior DL. Fans should keep in mind this is our current depth on the interior DL:

1st Unit: Blake Schmidt (Sr.), Paul Brott (Jr.), Zack Black (Jr.)
2nd Unit (Projected): Hunter Sharbono (Rfr.), Ryder Trujillo (Rfr.)
3rd Unit: Jaren Perkins (So.), Nicholas Korom (Jr.)

True Freshman: AJ Tanupo, Hudson Weins

I think both AJ and Hudson can push for that 2nd unit next fall but coaches like what they have in Sharbono and Trujillo who both will have that freshman weight added for their redshirt freshman. Talon to FB may just be a spring experiment so keep that in mind. I also fully expect MSU to prioritize adding one or two DL transfer to add competitive depth.
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Post by kennethnoisewater » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:39 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:30 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm
Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards, Bear Old, and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback
Aidan Parks and Aaron Richards will be graduating from MSU so they got their degrees. Armstrong was injured his first year which is a killer for PWOs. Bear Old didn't work his way into the two-deep and got beat out by freshman this past fall so he had a tall task to get back in the mix. Elijah is an interesting one because a year ago he was arguably beating out Ryan Lonergan for reps behind Pick and Snell. Then he played a ton this spring with Rylan Schlepp on the opposite team during the spring game. Then MSU signed Travis Provience who was a highly touted recruit. Finally, after fall camp was done Elijah was suddenly 5th/6th on the depth chart behind Snell, Pick, Lonergan, Schlepp, and Provience. I think there was an injury in there but another competition situation where a kid got beat out. If he does end up transferring to UM to join his brother, he'll be competing against three TEs who are very well thought of over there. He's a CET which is a very specific major so I'm assuming he'd want to finish his schooling. Anyway, wish all these guys the best. Football is hard.

Aidan Parks was a classic example of a coaching change hurting his role. He was a tweener out of high school but his tape was so dominant as a LB. He just never got into the rotation at nickel, safety, or LB at MSU. He also suffered an injury on special teams against NDSU in his final game. Again, football is hard.
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Re: 2024 Roster

Post by VimSince03 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:45 am

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:39 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:30 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 pm
Aidan Parks, Michael Armstrong, Aaron Richards, Bear Old, and Elijah Reynolds all are listed as retiring from the program as well.

Interesting, Talon Marsh (DL - former Montana Gatorade Player of the Year) is now listed as a fullback
Aidan Parks and Aaron Richards will be graduating from MSU so they got their degrees. Armstrong was injured his first year which is a killer for PWOs. Bear Old didn't work his way into the two-deep and got beat out by freshman this past fall so he had a tall task to get back in the mix. Elijah is an interesting one because a year ago he was arguably beating out Ryan Lonergan for reps behind Pick and Snell. Then he played a ton this spring with Rylan Schlepp on the opposite team during the spring game. Then MSU signed Travis Provience who was a highly touted recruit. Finally, after fall camp was done Elijah was suddenly 5th/6th on the depth chart behind Snell, Pick, Lonergan, Schlepp, and Provience. I think there was an injury in there but another competition situation where a kid got beat out. If he does end up transferring to UM to join his brother, he'll be competing against three TEs who are very well thought of over there. He's a CET which is a very specific major so I'm assuming he'd want to finish his schooling. Anyway, wish all these guys the best. Football is hard.

Aidan Parks was a classic example of a coaching change hurting his role. He was a tweener out of high school but his tape was so dominant as a LB. He just never got into the rotation at nickel, safety, or LB at MSU. He also suffered an injury on special teams against NDSU in his final game. Again, football is hard.
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