Yes but if we have to go back a full 2 years to find another game where Tommy was cut loose to throw the ball that way, it really does make it look like his arm talent is being ignored and wasted.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:08 amNever? I bet the players and coaches from the 2021 Sam Houston State team would beg to differ.FatBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:46 pmOne game isn't proof of anything especially when Mellot had a career day against us, he never throws like that, ever. He had an amazing game. But look a the stats man, its so close but I give my team the nod. LBs like I said definitely favors the Grizzjgrilley406 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:39 pmI mean a lot of it was the offensive coordinator finally opened up the play book a bit when it came to passing routes and design, but if the cats passed over 200 yards on NDSU, I don’t see how you can claim the bison secondary is better than the griz’s.FatBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:43 pmIdiot Grizz fnas can't even figure out how to get tickets to their own home game!!? Sounds about right.
Bison have better QB and RBs than the Grizz, a better OL and DL. LBs are a push but I will give a very slight edge to UM so I don't come across as a homer and our secondary is better. Special teams is a wash we have a better kicker and punter they have a better return guy in Bergen
We have across the board better talent and depth, we should roll in the 2nd half. We beat them at home as a DII school this time won't be any different.
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But being cut loose versus having the ability or not are different arguments. There were several games this year in 2 minute drives where he was very proficient in passing game. We chose not to do that most games he played significant minutes.Joe Bobcat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:45 amYes but if we have to go back a full 2 years to find another game where Tommy was cut loose to throw the ball that way, it really does make it look like his arm talent is being ignored and wasted.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:08 amNever? I bet the players and coaches from the 2021 Sam Houston State team would beg to differ.FatBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:46 pmOne game isn't proof of anything especially when Mellot had a career day against us, he never throws like that, ever. He had an amazing game. But look a the stats man, its so close but I give my team the nod. LBs like I said definitely favors the Grizzjgrilley406 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:39 pmI mean a lot of it was the offensive coordinator finally opened up the play book a bit when it came to passing routes and design, but if the cats passed over 200 yards on NDSU, I don’t see how you can claim the bison secondary is better than the griz’s.FatBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:43 pmIdiot Grizz fnas can't even figure out how to get tickets to their own home game!!? Sounds about right.
Bison have better QB and RBs than the Grizz, a better OL and DL. LBs are a push but I will give a very slight edge to UM so I don't come across as a homer and our secondary is better. Special teams is a wash we have a better kicker and punter they have a better return guy in Bergen
We have across the board better talent and depth, we should roll in the 2nd half. We beat them at home as a DII school this time won't be any different.
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Very well said.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:47 pmI don't disagree with you hiline. But this is a two way street, as is everything with Cat and griz fans despite each fanbase acting as if they are better than the other.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:39 pm
I watched the cats lose all those games and basically claim that you actually didn't really. lol
Just this morning I was reading egriz and a poster said the griz are much better than NDSU and I quote, "it's not even close". He followed that up by saying that of course NDSU could win Saturday because weird things happen in sports. Isn't he saying the exact same thing some Cat fans are saying? That the griz are much better than the Bison but they might lose the game?
I don't necessarily agree that the Cats were better than the 4 teams we lost to. But I also don't think that in sports the best team wins the game everytime. So I don't think it is absurd to look at the games the Cats lost and be frustrated because they thought the Cats were better, just not on that day.
Frankly, after the Griz lost to NAU this season, I don't know how any fan could say with a straight face it's crazy to think the better team could lose games. There is no chance in hell NAU was better than the griz. But they played better that day and in the end all that matters are wins and losses.
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As a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!
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That's all fair, but the pettiness of your head coach can't have helped. He called us State because "they don't deserve to have Montana in their name". He won't stay in Bozeman. Then some of the post-game interviews where he said he wished the game was longer so they could keep kicking our ass and this year, "I call that an ass kicking". If he and the gris fans expect Bobcat fans to turn around and pull for him and his team after stuff like that, I don't know quite what to tell you. I know several players on that team and they're great kids. I'd love to see them play well in a loss. I'm from the Flathead, which has always been mostly gris fans. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a Bobcat game with them and they pulled for the other team, so I don't buy it when you guys claim "we pull for you guys when we're not playing you". I'm sure some do, but I haven't met many.football fan 0120 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 pmAs a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!

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You should take this mini lecture to your head coach. He and his little boy are two of the main reasons that the rival is so vitriol at the moment. Also Boobie didn't have much to say in 2019 & 2022 when he took the "a$$ kickin' ". He wasn't running around Bobcat Stadium extending fake congrats to the Cats players. If I remember right, he scurried to the locker room - silent. Karma always comes to roost. Go Bizon.football fan 0120 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 pmAs a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!
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Gris fans at Fatboys in Kalispell erupted when we missed the kick at Idaho. Piss on them.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:22 pmThat's all fair, but the pettiness of your head coach can't have helped. He called us State because "they don't deserve to have Montana in their name". He won't stay in Bozeman. Then some of the post-game interviews where he said he wished the game was longer so they could keep kicking our ass and this year, "I call that an ass kicking". If he and the gris fans expect Bobcat fans to turn around and pull for him and his team after stuff like that, I don't know quite what to tell you. I know several players on that team and they're great kids. I'd love to see them play well in a loss. I'm from the Flathead, which has always been mostly gris fans. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a Bobcat game with them and they pulled for the other team, so I don't buy it when you guys claim "we pull for you guys when we're not playing you". I'm sure some do, but I haven't met many.football fan 0120 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 pmAs a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!
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We only got an article in Sports Illustrated. Should we be envious that we never got our book?49thparallel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:49 amNo glass house here. I don't condone bad behavior by any player or coach in either program and certainly wouldn't re-hire it either. If you send me your address, I'll mail you a copy of Krakauer's book for Christmas so you have something to read instead of trolling the Bobcat football forum.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:12 pmYou should really do some research on the kitties coaches/players before you rip a comment like that one off...DUI's, MURDER charges, etc...don't bode well for those living in glass houses....49thparallel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:45 pmI don't see Coach Bobby retiring anytime soon because he likes to be the big fish in a small pond. Unless of course, he helps create another toxic environment at UM and the NCAA sanctions net starts closing in like it did prior to his departure to UNLV when he left Pflugrad and O'Day holding the bag. In that case, I think retirement would be a more likely option than another run at a Division I program.nanacat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:30 amI truly can't stand either team, so I'm rather neutral on who wins.
However, I did wonder, if the gris actually make it to the natty, and by some miracle, win, what are the chances Booby retires? I mean could this year ever be topped for him? Win Cat-Gris, get coach of the year, most wins in the Big Sky all time record, then win the NC. What else would he need to do to go out on that note?
Not that I want to hear gris fans gloat and brag all year, but it would be interesting.
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If you beat them soundly, we’ll let you have the “z” they gave up so you can put it Bison.FatBuffalo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:01 pmBison are going to absolutely rinse the Griz this weekend.
Furman had a very very good defense but to many hurt players and it took Montana overtime to win that game. We are healthy and gonna put a 40 burger on the cubbies in their house on Saturday. There is not one phase of the game the Grizz are better in and NDSU has the better QB, much better RBs and WRs. This game will be won on the play of the lines and NDSU has a better DL and OL than Montana
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Preach it brother!kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:22 pmThat's all fair, but the pettiness of your head coach can't have helped. He called us State because "they don't deserve to have Montana in their name". He won't stay in Bozeman. Then some of the post-game interviews where he said he wished the game was longer so they could keep kicking our ass and this year, "I call that an ass kicking". If he and the gris fans expect Bobcat fans to turn around and pull for him and his team after stuff like that, I don't know quite what to tell you. I know several players on that team and they're great kids. I'd love to see them play well in a loss. I'm from the Flathead, which has always been mostly gris fans. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a Bobcat game with them and they pulled for the other team, so I don't buy it when you guys claim "we pull for you guys when we're not playing you". I'm sure some do, but I haven't met many.football fan 0120 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 pmAs a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!
As tough as it was growing up during "the streak", looking back on it now, I could at least respect those UM teams coached by Joe Glenn. Wasn't his fault that MSU hired a program wrecker - he who shall not be named - away from NDSU, a decision that ended up setting the program back by over a decade.
My disdain for all things maroon and silver really began - and has been repeatedly reinforced - by the egotistical jerk that is the face of the program. His antics and schtik has poisoned his players and this this rivalry and he's only gotten worse every year he's been at the helm. Incredibly bitter, petty man that doesn't deserve the satisfaction of winning a NC.
Eric Curry STILL makes me sad.

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I just read a piece in montanasports.com, about the last time the gris played in the semi-finals in 2011, which was later vacated. Former gris Sam Gratton mentioned that they went into the "litter box" and destroyed the Cats 36-10. gris fans can talk to me about how we should support them in the playoffs when their coaches, fans, and players stop disrespecting our program in the way that Gratton did with that comment. FTG....I hope NDSU beats them 63-0. I will never, ever, ever cheer for those douches against anyone, and I will never ever apologize to anyone for hating them. "Hate" might be too strong of a word...let's go with "despise" instead . The streak probably made our fans too bitter, but it made everyone associated with that program way too arrogant and disrespectful. I know that most of them are good people individually, but collectively they need to get over their entitled, arrogant BS, and I don't think that will ever happen. We could win 10 straight NC, and they could go 0-11 10 straight years and somehow in their minds, they'd still think their program was superior to ours.
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Gratton also had FTC written on his arms in the 2012 game, clearly visible on TV. Don't know him personally but as a player he's a complete D bag.John K wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:33 amI just read a piece in montanasports.com, about the last time the gris played in the semi-finals in 2011, which was later vacated. Former gris Sam Gratton mentioned that they went into the "litter box" and destroyed the Cats 36-10. gris fans can talk to me about how we should support them in the playoffs when their coaches, fans, and players stop disrespecting our program in the way that Gratton did with that comment. FTG....I hope NDSU beats them 63-0. I will never, ever, ever cheer for those douches against anyone, and I will never ever apologize to anyone for hating them. "Hate" might be too strong of a word...let's go with "despise" instead . The streak probably made our fans too bitter, but it made everyone associated with that program way too arrogant and disrespectful. I know that most of them are good people individually, but collectively they need to get over their entitled, arrogant BS, and I don't think that will ever happen. We could win 10 straight NC, and they could go 0-11 10 straight years and somehow in their minds, they'd still think their program was superior to ours.
And I agree with your post! Those guys disrespect us constantly. I really would like to root for the other Montana team after the Cats were done but their ugly fan base just doesn't allow me to.
Lastly, I guarantee you that griz fans were not rooting for MSU in Frisco 2 years ago, and even cheered that we lost.

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They always post stuff like this, then say "see? Look how much nicer we are than you!" BS, they hate us. They're the bully that's really nice when the teacher is paying attention, then when the teacher turns their back, they try to punch you in the nuts.
The Robby Hauck part always seemed like it might have been fake to me.

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Bobby and Robby, keeping it classy since...never. Plus, Bobcat fans also have to deal with the subtle, yet very clear gris bias among the local Montana media. That gets pretty frickin' old after awhile too.
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I mean his reply wasn't wrong. That's how people should feel about the rivalry. You don't have to be a complete ass to the rival, but you certainly don't have to root for them either. I'd hope our players all feel the same way, and I'm sure they do. No chance I'll root for the griz tomorrow. But I'm not rooting for NDSU either. One of them has to win, but I couldn't care less. But certainly won't be cheering either of them on.

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Bocephus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:43 pmGris fans at Fatboys in Kalispell erupted when we missed the kick at Idaho. Piss on them.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:22 pmThat's all fair, but the pettiness of your head coach can't have helped. He called us State because "they don't deserve to have Montana in their name". He won't stay in Bozeman. Then some of the post-game interviews where he said he wished the game was longer so they could keep kicking our ass and this year, "I call that an ass kicking". If he and the gris fans expect Bobcat fans to turn around and pull for him and his team after stuff like that, I don't know quite what to tell you. I know several players on that team and they're great kids. I'd love to see them play well in a loss. I'm from the Flathead, which has always been mostly gris fans. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a Bobcat game with them and they pulled for the other team, so I don't buy it when you guys claim "we pull for you guys when we're not playing you". I'm sure some do, but I haven't met many.football fan 0120 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 pmAs a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!
