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91catAlum wrote:
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So awesome! I am super jacked for him! Yay.
:lol: that's the spirit!
EXACTLY, I LOVE it when people pursue their individual goals at the cost of the team. I for one am thrilled for him!!! :lol: =D^



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catsrback76 wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:33 am
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:29 pm
mslacatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:09 pm
So awesome! I am super jacked for him! Yay.
:lol: that's the spirit!
EXACTLY, I LOVE it when people pursue their individual goals at the cost of the team. I for one am thrilled for him!!! :lol: =D^
I really don't have any personal interest in where he ends up, needless to say I am not "thrilled for him." Since I'm not a fan of other college football teams, he's just another player on another team that I don't pay attention to so I could give 2 sh**s about his career from this point on...



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Re: Rush Reimer in the Portal

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The Butcher wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:14 am
catsrback76 wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:33 am
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:29 pm
mslacatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:09 pm
So awesome! I am super jacked for him! Yay.
:lol: that's the spirit!
EXACTLY, I LOVE it when people pursue their individual goals at the cost of the team. I for one am thrilled for him!!! :lol: =D^
I really don't have any personal interest in where he ends up, needless to say I am not "thrilled for him." Since I'm not a fan of other college football teams, he's just another player on another team that I don't pay attention to so I could give 2 sh**s about his career from this point on...
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Rush has offers from at least Boise st, Oregon St, Purdue, Kansas St, Texas Tech, and now Cal.

I think he’s into skiing. I’d think he’d narrow it down to Boise, Cal and OSU. None have the skiing that he had here though.


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I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.


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TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:33 am
91catAlum wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:46 pm
Rush has offers from at least Boise st, Oregon St, Purdue, Kansas St, Texas Tech, and now Cal.

I think he’s into skiing. I’d think he’d narrow it down to Boise, Cal and OSU. None have the skiing that he had here though.
I'd be seriously surprised if his NIL contract (if there is one) would allow him to ski.



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Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
I think a lot of us would like to hear that but ultimately it's none of our business and as others have said before, fretting over why a certain player deices to transfer is a fruitless endeavors.


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Post by kennethnoisewater » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:35 pm

catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
I'd imagine these guys want to play at the highest level they possibly can, regardless of NIL money. Let's say Rush had offers from MSU, Cal, Boise State and Oregon State right out of high school. No NIL discussions, just football programs. I'd be stunned if he went to MSU with those offers. I get it. It would be kinda fun to go play at a bigger school, play in a bowl game, play at bigger stadiums (especially for road games).

You hope these guys just fall so in love with a school and a town and a program that nothing else in the world matters to them, but sometimes that love and passion and commitment comes AFTER spending 4-5 years somewhere, not 2-3 years in. I think most of them truly do like playing here, but this day and age they definitely see what else is out there. And yeah, sometimes they make the wrong decision.

This season was disappointing. You play at MSU because you want to play for a national championship. You come into the season thinking you have one of the best teams in the nation and you finish below your expectations. That has to plant a little seed of doubt and make you consider looking around.

On top of all that, I think this is the future of O-Linemen. I think big schools tell these guys to go learn and grow and develop and actually play for a couple years, and if you advance like we think you will, jump in the portal and we or someone like us will come get you. Play for a good program, get good development, and it's better than sitting here at Texas/Oregon/USC, redshirting a year, then riding the bench a couple more years.

So I think you're going to get the canned responses because I don't think any of us want to hear the real reasons. At best it's going to be something like "MSU is cool and it's one of the best FCS programs, but let's be honest, the FBS is better and I think I can play there". At worst it's going to be "have you seen a December morning in Bozeman while we're out there practicing? Have you ever gotten hit in 5 degree weather? This place sucks".

We can piss and moan all we want or we can pony up. If you hate this, you're not wrong. But it ain't about being right or wrong, it's about being successful. Not pointing any fingers at anybody--I have no idea what anybody on this board contributes to the program, and I could probably do more than I do. There are thousands of people who love Bobcat football who could afford another $10 or $20 or $100 or $1,000 a month to the Bobcat collective or to something else. Some of us are maxed out on our giving to MSU, and I'm not challenging them to give anything. Honestly I'd bet that most people who take the time to post on this board are making pretty personally significant contributions to Bobcat football. But somewhere there are thousands of alums and fans and businesses who could do a little more, and we need 'em to get after it.


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Re: Rush Reimer in the Portal

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:04 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
I'd imagine these guys want to play at the highest level they possibly can, regardless of NIL money. Let's say Rush had offers from MSU, Cal, Boise State and Oregon State right out of high school. No NIL discussions, just football programs. I'd be stunned if he went to MSU with those offers. I get it. It would be kinda fun to go play at a bigger school, play in a bowl game, play at bigger stadiums (especially for road games).

You hope these guys just fall so in love with a school and a town and a program that nothing else in the world matters to them, but sometimes that love and passion and commitment comes AFTER spending 4-5 years somewhere, not 2-3 years in. I think most of them truly do like playing here, but this day and age they definitely see what else is out there. And yeah, sometimes they make the wrong decision.

This season was disappointing. You play at MSU because you want to play for a national championship. You come into the season thinking you have one of the best teams in the nation and you finish below your expectations. That has to plant a little seed of doubt and make you consider looking around.

On top of all that, I think this is the future of O-Linemen. I think big schools tell these guys to go learn and grow and develop and actually play for a couple years, and if you advance like we think you will, jump in the portal and we or someone like us will come get you. Play for a good program, get good development, and it's better than sitting here at Texas/Oregon/USC, redshirting a year, then riding the bench a couple more years.

So I think you're going to get the canned responses because I don't think any of us want to hear the real reasons. At best it's going to be something like "MSU is cool and it's one of the best FCS programs, but let's be honest, the FBS is better and I think I can play there". At worst it's going to be "have you seen a December morning in Bozeman while we're out there practicing? Have you ever gotten hit in 5 degree weather? This place sucks".

We can piss and moan all we want or we can pony up. If you hate this, you're not wrong. But it ain't about being right or wrong, it's about being successful. Not pointing any fingers at anybody--I have no idea what anybody on this board contributes to the program, and I could probably do more than I do. There are thousands of people who love Bobcat football who could afford another $10 or $20 or $100 or $1,000 a month to the Bobcat collective or to something else. Some of us are maxed out on our giving to MSU, and I'm not challenging them to give anything. Honestly I'd bet that most people who take the time to post on this board are making pretty personally significant contributions to Bobcat football. But somewhere there are thousands of alums and fans and businesses who could do a little more, and we need 'em to get after it.
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kennethnoisewater wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
I'd imagine these guys want to play at the highest level they possibly can, regardless of NIL money. Let's say Rush had offers from MSU, Cal, Boise State and Oregon State right out of high school. No NIL discussions, just football programs. I'd be stunned if he went to MSU with those offers. I get it. It would be kinda fun to go play at a bigger school, play in a bowl game, play at bigger stadiums (especially for road games).

You hope these guys just fall so in love with a school and a town and a program that nothing else in the world matters to them, but sometimes that love and passion and commitment comes AFTER spending 4-5 years somewhere, not 2-3 years in. I think most of them truly do like playing here, but this day and age they definitely see what else is out there. And yeah, sometimes they make the wrong decision.

This season was disappointing. You play at MSU because you want to play for a national championship. You come into the season thinking you have one of the best teams in the nation and you finish below your expectations. That has to plant a little seed of doubt and make you consider looking around.

On top of all that, I think this is the future of O-Linemen. I think big schools tell these guys to go learn and grow and develop and actually play for a couple years, and if you advance like we think you will, jump in the portal and we or someone like us will come get you. Play for a good program, get good development, and it's better than sitting here at Texas/Oregon/USC, redshirting a year, then riding the bench a couple more years.

So I think you're going to get the canned responses because I don't think any of us want to hear the real reasons. At best it's going to be something like "MSU is cool and it's one of the best FCS programs, but let's be honest, the FBS is better and I think I can play there". At worst it's going to be "have you seen a December morning in Bozeman while we're out there practicing? Have you ever gotten hit in 5 degree weather? This place sucks".

We can piss and moan all we want or we can pony up. If you hate this, you're not wrong. But it ain't about being right or wrong, it's about being successful. Not pointing any fingers at anybody--I have no idea what anybody on this board contributes to the program, and I could probably do more than I do. There are thousands of people who love Bobcat football who could afford another $10 or $20 or $100 or $1,000 a month to the Bobcat collective or to something else. Some of us are maxed out on our giving to MSU, and I'm not challenging them to give anything. Honestly I'd bet that most people who take the time to post on this board are making pretty personally significant contributions to Bobcat football. But somewhere there are thousands of alums and fans and businesses who could do a little more, and we need 'em to get after it.
Good post. I'm trying to imagine the advice I'd give my kid if he were considering "Cal for $0 NIL vs $50k in NIL at MSU". I'd be hard pressed to push him to play at a lower division with worse academics even for more money.

MSU would STILL struggle in the head to head. Money is an important motivator, but its not everything.



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catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
Omar has plus athleticism for a guard at the NFL level. He's going to get a bigtime offer from a bigtime program. He'll make real money while he's still in college, and he'll end up at a school that sends multiple players to the combine every year instead of one player every multiple years, where all 32 teams watch his pro day instead of expecting 10 and hoping for 20.

It would be weirder if he wasn't transferring


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catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
How is Colter gonna know these answers?


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Post by MSU01 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:10 am

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:55 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
How is Colter gonna know these answers?
I think the idea is that Colter would interview the players and ask them. Personally I'd rather he didn't, to me their reasons for leaving are personal and none of our business.



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Post by Colter_Nuanez » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:23 am

We've thought and discussed this pretty extensively if we should pursue interviewing these guys....at the end of the day, the likelihood of getting anything more than "I loved my time at MSU, I loved my teammates and it was just time for a change" is probably very, very low. No one would ever say they were leaving because they thought it was the wrong fit, didn't like their coaches etc. The chances of them saying, "I'm leaving to get the bag" are also slim to none. And the chances of them saying how much they have been offered in NIL money, if that is a or the motivating factor, is also negligible.

Personally, if players were to scrap the "I love everyone....with that being said, I'm leaving you behind" love letters they all posted on twitter and they simply said, "I have confidence in how I've developed as a player and I want to test myself at the highest level" or "the amount of money I'm receiving is positively impacting my family and I couldn't turn it down", it would seem much less disingenuous.

But there's a culture here. It's omnipresent. There's a formula. It's why every "I'm entering the portal" announcement is exactly the same. The formula helps deflect revealing the real truths, skirts accountability and further perpetuates this world of constant enabling.

All that said, if your motivation is to test yourself at the highest level possible as an athlete, which I think is one of the primary motivations of most of the FCS players that are pursuing FBS opportunities in the portal, that's just fine with me. I just wish they would say "I'm betting on myself" and leave the rest out.
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Post by wbtfg » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:29 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:23 am
We've thought and discussed this pretty extensively if we should pursue interviewing these guys....at the end of the day, the likelihood of getting anything more than "I loved my time at MSU, I loved my teammates and it was just time for a change" is probably very, very low. No one would ever say they were leaving because they thought it was the wrong fit, didn't like their coaches etc. The chances of them saying, "I'm leaving to get the bag" are also slim to none. And the chances of them saying how much they have been offered in NIL money, if that is a or the motivating factor, is also negligible.

Personally, if players were to scrap the "I love everyone....with that being said, I'm leaving you behind" love letters they all posted on twitter and they simply said, "I have confidence in how I've developed as a player and I want to test myself at the highest level" or "the amount of money I'm receiving is positively impacting my family and I couldn't turn it down", it would seem much less disingenuous.

But there's a culture here. It's omnipresent. There's a formula. It's why every "I'm entering the portal" announcement is exactly the same. The formula helps deflect revealing the real truths, skirts accountability and further perpetuates this world of constant enabling.

All that said, if your motivation is to test yourself at the highest level possible as an athlete, which I think is one of the primary motivations of most of the FCS players that are pursuing FBS opportunities in the portal, that's just fine with me. I just wish they would say "I'm getting on myself" and leave the rest out of it.
Great post. Just for fun, I told ChatGPT to compose a portal tweet. Here’s what it gave me….emojis and all. Haha

"Montana State, thank you for an amazing journey! 🙌 After much reflection, I've decided to enter the transfer portal, ready for new challenges. Excited to see where this next chapter takes me with three years of eligibility left. Your support means the world! 🌟 #NewBeginnings #TransferPortal #Grateful"



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Post by MountainCat » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:59 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:23 am
We've thought and discussed this pretty extensively if we should pursue interviewing these guys....at the end of the day, the likelihood of getting anything more than "I loved my time at MSU, I loved my teammates and it was just time for a change" is probably very, very low. No one would ever say they were leaving because they thought it was the wrong fit, didn't like their coaches etc. The chances of them saying, "I'm leaving to get the bag" are also slim to none. And the chances of them saying how much they have been offered in NIL money, if that is a or the motivating factor, is also negligible.

Personally, if players were to scrap the "I love everyone....with that being said, I'm leaving you behind" love letters they all posted on twitter and they simply said, "I have confidence in how I've developed as a player and I want to test myself at the highest level" or "the amount of money I'm receiving is positively impacting my family and I couldn't turn it down", it would seem much less disingenuous.

But there's a culture here. It's omnipresent. There's a formula. It's why every "I'm entering the portal" announcement is exactly the same. The formula helps deflect revealing the real truths, skirts accountability and further perpetuates this world of constant enabling.

All that said, if your motivation is to test yourself at the highest level possible as an athlete, which I think is one of the primary motivations of most of the FCS players that are pursuing FBS opportunities in the portal, that's just fine with me. I just wish they would say "I'm betting on myself" and leave the rest out.

You nailed it Colter….



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Post by 91catAlum » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:12 am

MSU01 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:10 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:55 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:08 pm
I would REALLY love to hear the thoughts and reasoning from the players on why they make this decision. Colter, this is for you! Specifically Rush, Omar, and Seabass. Not just the canned "I felt it was the best opportunity to showcase my talents" response, but what was the real driver. I'm guessing NIL money and if so, how much.
How is Colter gonna know these answers?
I think the idea is that Colter would interview the players and ask them. Personally I'd rather he didn't, to me their reasons for leaving are personal and none of our business.
I guess my question is more about, why would the player give Colter (or any other media person) more information than they posted on twitter? Literally nobody is gonna tell a reporter "I like MSU but a rep from the Texas Tech NIL collective offered me 100K to put my name in the portal and transfer so I'm taking it".


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Post by CelticCat » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:54 am

That kind of interview may work after a player is done playing, but Colter is 100a% correct that they won’t say anything revelatory while they are still playing college ball.


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Post by CelticCat » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:54 am

wbtfg wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:29 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:23 am
We've thought and discussed this pretty extensively if we should pursue interviewing these guys....at the end of the day, the likelihood of getting anything more than "I loved my time at MSU, I loved my teammates and it was just time for a change" is probably very, very low. No one would ever say they were leaving because they thought it was the wrong fit, didn't like their coaches etc. The chances of them saying, "I'm leaving to get the bag" are also slim to none. And the chances of them saying how much they have been offered in NIL money, if that is a or the motivating factor, is also negligible.

Personally, if players were to scrap the "I love everyone....with that being said, I'm leaving you behind" love letters they all posted on twitter and they simply said, "I have confidence in how I've developed as a player and I want to test myself at the highest level" or "the amount of money I'm receiving is positively impacting my family and I couldn't turn it down", it would seem much less disingenuous.

But there's a culture here. It's omnipresent. There's a formula. It's why every "I'm entering the portal" announcement is exactly the same. The formula helps deflect revealing the real truths, skirts accountability and further perpetuates this world of constant enabling.

All that said, if your motivation is to test yourself at the highest level possible as an athlete, which I think is one of the primary motivations of most of the FCS players that are pursuing FBS opportunities in the portal, that's just fine with me. I just wish they would say "I'm getting on myself" and leave the rest out of it.
Great post. Just for fun, I told ChatGPT to compose a portal tweet. Here’s what it gave me….emojis and all. Haha

"Montana State, thank you for an amazing journey! 🙌 After much reflection, I've decided to enter the transfer portal, ready for new challenges. Excited to see where this next chapter takes me with three years of eligibility left. Your support means the world! 🌟 #NewBeginnings #TransferPortal #Grateful"
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