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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by WYCAT » Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:18 pm

Who makes the decision on retiring numbers? Is it a committee? Leon? Waded? Is there formal criteria? It feels like Troy is as likely a candidate as we've had in a long time and this would indicate it ain't happening.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by CodyCat » Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:59 pm

I think it boils down to the fact that there are barely enough numbers available as is. I dont think retiring his number will happen. Maybe even Troy said no to it.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:04 pm

Here's a rather "outside the box" way of looking at the number 15 being worn.
To cover all the positions that Troy played and excelled at playing for the Bobcats we need to have 4 players wearing the number 15 each season.
A quarterback, running back, linebacker, and someone on special teams. Only by putting 4 high quality players in that number each season will the Bobcats come close to getting the same level of performance and production out of that number.

Personally, I think that retired numbers should only be retired for as long as that player is alive and sometime after death the number should be used again.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by AFCAT » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:05 pm

CodyCat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:52 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:24 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:16 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:28 pm
msubobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:06 pm
Looks like roster is updated.
https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/roster?view=1
Two number 15s! :-k
What is wrong with it? 1 qb and 1 lb.
Probably the greatest Bobcat in history wore that number. MSU didn't issue the number last season and some of us believed it would be a while before they did. Not a huge issue but just a bit surprising that when they issued 15 again, they would give it out to two players at the same time.
Are you sure? I could have swore I remember someone wearing 15 last year. In fact, I know I saw it. Troy will always be Troy but its time for others to wear that number.
Show me a picture of someone wearing #15 in a game last season. The 2022 roster is still available, no #15. Like I wrote before, it’s not a huge issue if they let someone wear it.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by CodyCat » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:09 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:05 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:52 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:24 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:16 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:28 pm
msubobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:06 pm
Looks like roster is updated.
https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/roster?view=1
Two number 15s! :-k
What is wrong with it? 1 qb and 1 lb.
Probably the greatest Bobcat in history wore that number. MSU didn't issue the number last season and some of us believed it would be a while before they did. Not a huge issue but just a bit surprising that when they issued 15 again, they would give it out to two players at the same time.
Are you sure? I could have swore I remember someone wearing 15 last year. In fact, I know I saw it. Troy will always be Troy but its time for others to wear that number.
Show me a picture of someone wearing #15 in a game last season. The 2022 roster is still available, no #15. Like I wrote before, it’s not a huge issue if they let someone wear it.
Gosh, maybe you're right. I just remember looking at the sideline early last season and thinking, that poor SOB that has to wear Troys jersey. :-k


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by coloradocat » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:42 pm

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Here's a rather "outside the box" way of looking at the number 15 being worn.
To cover all the positions that Troy played and excelled at playing for the Bobcats we need to have 4 players wearing the number 15 each season.
A quarterback, running back, linebacker, and someone on special teams. Only by putting 4 high quality players in that number each season will the Bobcats come close to getting the same level of performance and production out of that number.

Personally, I think that retired numbers should only be retired for as long as that player is alive and sometime after death the number should be used again.
I'd be on board with this idea. Maybe lifetime plus 5 years, and their jersey is up in the stadium forever, even after it can be worn again.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by coloradocat » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:45 pm

CodyCat wrote:
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I think it boils down to the fact that there are barely enough numbers available as is. I dont think retiring his number will happen. Maybe even Troy said no to it.
Until we have 180+ players on the roster I don't see this as a valid argument. It's not like we're going to start retiring a bunch of numbers. I would say Troy and potentially the best player on the team if/when we win a national championship.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by MSU01 » Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:45 pm

So if MSU retires #15 for Troy do they also retire #14 for Lulay or #9 for McGhee? I'd argue that both of those players had just as much of a positive impact on the MSU football program as Troy did.

Personally I'd vote for more of a "Ring of Honor" type thing like NFL teams do, where the names of legendary players are displayed in the stadium prominently but without retiring any jersey numbers.



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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by AFCAT » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:57 pm

msubobcat wrote:
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I dont see Julius Davis, RB on roster?
He was mentioned a few times in todays press briefing, so I’m guessing the roster hasn’t been completely updated.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by BleedingBLue » Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:44 pm

Sam always does his homework. He knows the FCS so well.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... view-bzbz/



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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by AFCAT » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:01 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:44 pm
Sam always does his homework. He knows the FCS so well.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... view-bzbz/
Maybe, but this comment is a little bit off in my opinion, unless he means playing Sac State, MSU, and DumB at home is good for them vs. on the road. Idaho only has four home games and that can't help them. Idaho would have to sweep to really "stack up Big Sky wins" at home.

"Idaho is getting a lot of preseason hype, from me as well. The Vandals have a good home draw to stack up Big Sky wins."


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by BleedingBLue » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:03 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:01 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:44 pm
Sam always does his homework. He knows the FCS so well.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... view-bzbz/
Maybe, but this comment is a little bit off in my opinion, unless he means playing Sac State, MSU, and DumB at home is good for them vs. on the road. Idaho only has four home games and that can't help them. Idaho would have to sweep to really "stack up Big Sky wins" at home.

"Idaho is getting a lot of preseason hype, from me as well. The Vandals have a good home draw to stack up Big Sky wins."
I took that as them getting all their big games at home, where they'll have an easier time to winning those games. I can see what you mean though, not necessarily worded in the best way.



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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by Montanabob » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:56 pm

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Interesting takes from Stan here.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/arti ... redictions
only 2 seeds from the BSC? that's a step back.....
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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by AFCAT » Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:25 pm

congrats.

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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by AFCAT » Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:20 pm

Lance on this pass.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 pm

Not sure if these have already been posted on BN or not, but Housewright has several videos with an in-depth look at our offense. Here's the video on the 2 QB package.



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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by coloradocat » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:25 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 pm
Not sure if these have already been posted on BN or not, but Housewright has several videos with an in-depth look at our offense. Here's the video on the 2 QB package.

You definitely missed the drama around this stuff earlier this summer.


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:05 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:25 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 pm
Not sure if these have already been posted on BN or not, but Housewright has several videos with an in-depth look at our offense. Here's the video on the 2 QB package.
You definitely missed the drama around this stuff earlier this summer.
Ha! ya I wasn't on here much the last few months. What happened?


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Re: Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

Post by coloradocat » Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:24 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:05 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:25 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:58 pm
Not sure if these have already been posted on BN or not, but Housewright has several videos with an in-depth look at our offense. Here's the video on the 2 QB package.
You definitely missed the drama around this stuff earlier this summer.
Ha! ya I wasn't on here much the last few months. What happened?
Some people thought opposing coaches would learn all our secrets from Youtube and the rest of us explained that's not how coaching works.


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