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Re: The official-Unofficial Bobcat-Oregon State gameday thread!

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:41 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:39 pm
For those of you saying we weren't supposed to compete and we're just happy to get paid, why? Why is that enough? I realize we aren't NDSU but they get paid to WIN against P5 teams. This isn't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, USC, etc. etc. I don't think expecting a 10-14 point loss and only giving up 35 or so is too high of an expectation for a team wanting to compete for national championships.
Sometimes you do well in these games, sometimes you don't. It's a crap shoot. MSU had a shot at being in the game or even winning but had just a good a shot of getting lit up. FCS teams that win these games aren't guaranteed anything.


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Post by justafan » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:37 pm
Just remember this is against an average at worst Pac-12 team. This performance just means we aren't beating NDSU again this year, even with major improvements, which wasn't happening anyway. Outside of that it means just as much as last weeks game does. If anything it will give us plenty of film to study for self-scouting ahead of EWU.
yup and we aint beating the gris either unless we get our shizt together.



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm

technoCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:41 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:33 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:31 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:29 pm
rivercat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:27 pm
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:26 pm
Worst defense I've seen in 20' years. Why can't we make any kind of adjustment? We'd win this game with lady years defense.
:lol:

Nope
Rivercat, you and i are jiving on this. We're young and it's snowballing on us, due in no small part to our conquering hero throwing 2 ghastly interceptions. To think this portends much of anything about the way we'll play the bsc schedule is a fools errand imo.
Jeezus what is your problem with Tommy?
I love Tommy. But to scream about our defense, scheme, whatever without signing him some blame here is not legitimate. He'll be fine, we'll be fine, but you can't make those throws i don't care who you're playing.
Pretty sure some people criticized him and nobody argued. Yes those were bad picks. Just like you can't leave a third of the field wide open on third and 10.
Yes, there's plenty of blame to go around. Things haven't exactly lined up for MSU since the first MSU drive. In 4-5 plays MSU scored a KORTD and threw two INTs.


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Post by wbtfg » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm

The last time I saw this many wide open beavers was when I was 12 and found my dad's stash of Hustler magazines.


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Post by Hawks86 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm

Not a good showing at all. But, I swear, some around here get off on situations like this.


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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm

justafan wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:37 pm
Just remember this is against an average at worst Pac-12 team. This performance just means we aren't beating NDSU again this year, even with major improvements, which wasn't happening anyway. Outside of that it means just as much as last weeks game does. If anything it will give us plenty of film to study for self-scouting ahead of EWU.
yup and we aint beating the gris either unless we get our shizt together.
...of the Griz?


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Post by John K » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm

Total yardage is 373-83. I didn't expect us to beat OSU, but we shouldn't be getting dominated this thoroughly, if we expect to be a top 5 FCS team this year.



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Post by MountainCat » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:46 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:39 pm
For those of you saying we weren't supposed to compete and we're just happy to get paid, why? Why is that enough? I realize we aren't NDSU but they get paid to WIN against P5 teams. This isn't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, USC, etc. etc. I don't think expecting a 10-14 point loss and only giving up 35 or so is too high of an expectation for a team wanting to compete for national championships.
1000% behind this line of thinking. Great teams play up to better competition, they don’t fold. We’ll see what the Cats show in the second half, pretty disappointed in what they’ve shown collectively so far outside of 1 exciting offensive series and kickoff return.



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Post by Hawks86 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:46 pm

justafan wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:37 pm
Just remember this is against an average at worst Pac-12 team. This performance just means we aren't beating NDSU again this year, even with major improvements, which wasn't happening anyway. Outside of that it means just as much as last weeks game does. If anything it will give us plenty of film to study for self-scouting ahead of EWU.
yup and we aint beating the gris either unless we get our shizt together.
You sure like to bring that up often. Surprised you didn't say "hope i'm wrong."


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Post by CatBlitz » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:46 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
The last time I saw this many wide open beavers was when I was 12 and found my dad's stash of Hustler magazines.
Got me. 😅


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Post by coloradocat » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:47 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
The last time I saw this many wide open beavers was when I was 12 and found my dad's stash of Hustler magazines.
:lol:

The first beaver joke of the night!


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Post by justafan » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:48 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:46 pm
justafan wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:37 pm
Just remember this is against an average at worst Pac-12 team. This performance just means we aren't beating NDSU again this year, even with major improvements, which wasn't happening anyway. Outside of that it means just as much as last weeks game does. If anything it will give us plenty of film to study for self-scouting ahead of EWU.
yup and we aint beating the gris either unless we get our shizt together.
You sure like to bring that up often. Surprised you didn't say "hope i'm wrong."
hope I am



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:49 pm

John K wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm
Total yardage is 373-83. I didn't expect us to beat OSU, but we shouldn't be getting dominated this thoroughly, if we expect to be a top 5 FCS team this year.
I thought you liked Mike Kramer. What happened?

Should be 373 to 181, shouldn't it?


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Post by HelenaCat95 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:50 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
The last time I saw this many wide open beavers was when I was 12 and found my dad's stash of Hustler magazines.
:lol:

The first beaver joke of the night!
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Post by GoldstoneCat » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:51 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:39 pm
For those of you saying we weren't supposed to compete and we're just happy to get paid, why? Why is that enough? I realize we aren't NDSU but they get paid to WIN against P5 teams. This isn't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, USC, etc. etc. I don't think expecting a 10-14 point loss and only giving up 35 or so is too high of an expectation for a team wanting to compete for national championships.
This team is going to have to grow into a contender if we're going to be one. We were never going to be even close to a finished product this early. Add to that being down all our running backs and no, I'm not stunned or worried about this game at all. These guys need to play together a bunch and grow into that contender, which may be this year or may be next year. If we win 8-9 games, which we will, and get to the quarters with all the talent we lost and all the kids we're playing that bodes well for this program, very well, going forward. I think it's reasonable to say the team that won the semifinal game would have had a better first half here. This group is not that group. Might be by November but isn't now.



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Post by luckyirishguy25 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:51 pm

John K wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm
Total yardage is 373-83. I didn't expect us to beat OSU, but we shouldn't be getting dominated this thoroughly, if we expect to be a top 5 FCS team this year.
I'm not convinced we're a top 5 team or top 10.



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:53 pm

MountainCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:46 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:39 pm
For those of you saying we weren't supposed to compete and we're just happy to get paid, why? Why is that enough? I realize we aren't NDSU but they get paid to WIN against P5 teams. This isn't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, USC, etc. etc. I don't think expecting a 10-14 point loss and only giving up 35 or so is too high of an expectation for a team wanting to compete for national championships.
1000% behind this line of thinking. Great teams play up to better competition, they don’t fold. We’ll see what the Cats show in the second half, pretty disappointed in what they’ve shown collectively so far outside of 1 exciting offensive series and kickoff return.
Not always. I remember a team winning a national championship after losing to a team that hadn't won a game and finished 3-8.


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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:54 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:51 pm
John K wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm
Total yardage is 373-83. I didn't expect us to beat OSU, but we shouldn't be getting dominated this thoroughly, if we expect to be a top 5 FCS team this year.
I'm not convinced we're a top 5 team or top 10.
As you shouldn't be. No one should be convinced of anything at this point in the season.


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Post by coloradocat » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:56 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:51 pm
John K wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm
Total yardage is 373-83. I didn't expect us to beat OSU, but we shouldn't be getting dominated this thoroughly, if we expect to be a top 5 FCS team this year.
I'm not convinced we're a top 5 team or top 10.
We'll know by Homecoming.


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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:56 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:51 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:39 pm
For those of you saying we weren't supposed to compete and we're just happy to get paid, why? Why is that enough? I realize we aren't NDSU but they get paid to WIN against P5 teams. This isn't Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, USC, etc. etc. I don't think expecting a 10-14 point loss and only giving up 35 or so is too high of an expectation for a team wanting to compete for national championships.
This team is going to have to grow into a contender if we're going to be one. We were never going to be even close to a finished product this early. Add to that being down all our running backs and no, I'm not stunned or worried about this game at all. These guys need to play together a bunch and grow into that contender, which may be this year or may be next year. If we win 8-9 games, which we will, and get to the quarters with all the talent we lost and all the kids we're playing that bodes well for this program, very well, going forward. I think it's reasonable to say the team that won the semifinal game would have had a better first half here. This group is not that group. Might be by November but isn't now.
Unless you think Mellott and the defense would have games like this against all similar teams, I can see your thinking here. That's just not the case. Mellott is not going to play like this every game going forward. Neither will the defense. I doubt Johnson is going to run 2-3 KOs back for TDs every game, since he's good enough to do it once vs a P5 team.


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