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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coloradocat » Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:28 pm

94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
It's almost like there's more to football than tackle (assist) stats.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:39 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:28 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
It's almost like there's more to football than tackle (assist) stats.
I think that guys biggest drawback for the NFL was his lack of speed. He was a great college player even though his stats were obviously padded.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by rivercat » Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:02 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:39 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:28 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
It's almost like there's more to football than tackle (assist) stats.
I think that guys biggest drawback for the NFL was his lack of speed. He was a great college player even though his stats were obviously padded.
Do doubt Dante was very good in college. His skill set matched very well with the gris defensive system. The weakness was very evident in the 2019 Cat gris game. Running outside the tackles.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Travelingcat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:21 am

94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
Unlike Dante Olson, Troy Andersen isn't going to run a 4.88 40. His athletic numbers, as much as anything else, are the key to why he is going to play a long time in the league (assuming he avoids serious injury). The production is just reinforcing that he knows how to put those athletic numbers to use on the football field.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by 94VegasCat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:21 am

Travelingcat wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:21 am
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
Unlike Dante Olson, Troy Andersen isn't going to run a 4.88 40. His athletic numbers, as much as anything else, are the key to why he is going to play a long time in the league (assuming he avoids serious injury). The production is just reinforcing that he knows how to put those athletic numbers to use on the football field.
I’m 100% jabbing at the DII school over the hill.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Team10 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:33 am

Travelingcat wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:21 am
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
Unlike Dante Olson, Troy Andersen isn't going to run a 4.88 40. His athletic numbers, as much as anything else, are the key to why he is going to play a long time in the league (assuming he avoids serious injury). The production is just reinforcing that he knows how to put those athletic numbers to use on the football field.
I remember see that 4.88 time posted for his 40 during the combine blew my as to how slow that really is. It's difficult for some to understand how much of a gap is created between someone who runs a 4.45 or faster vs 4.80 or slower on the football field at different yardages. I found this video from the 2013 combine with a ton of recognizable players that compares 40 times by overlaying their videos. Eye opening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaaPMSm ... hannel=NFL
Have to post it with link only because the video wouldn't show because of NFL constraints. ](*,)



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:39 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:14 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
100% agree.

Dante Olson was a star in the Big Sky and FCS but his lack of lateral quickness and overall speed to be a professional linebacker should have been clear to most evaluators (and in the end it was). Simply put, Dante projected as a two-down linebacker who excels at stopping north/south run schemes but was a complete liability in pass coverage. Could've been a great special teams player but NFL scouts can find those guys anywhere.

Troy is different because 1) he's a better overall athlete and 2) better overall football player than Dante. Doesn't really have to be more discussion past that as it isn't very hard to understand.
Not gonna be much of a ST’s player with a 4.9 40.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by VimSince03 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:42 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:39 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:14 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
100% agree.

Dante Olson was a star in the Big Sky and FCS but his lack of lateral quickness and overall speed to be a professional linebacker should have been clear to most evaluators (and in the end it was). Simply put, Dante projected as a two-down linebacker who excels at stopping north/south run schemes but was a complete liability in pass coverage. Could've been a great special teams player but NFL scouts can find those guys anywhere.

Troy is different because 1) he's a better overall athlete and 2) better overall football player than Dante. Doesn't really have to be more discussion past that as it isn't very hard to understand.
Not gonna be much of a ST’s player with a 4.9 40.
There are plenty of NFL LB's who are great special team players who don't have a blazing 40 time.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Montanabob » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:50 am

Concern I have for Troy from the last season and from the Senior bowl was he has a tendency with all that great speed to overrun the quarterback or running back and running back cuts back on him and breaks his ankles. He's just got to learn to control that last second and lock up. I think he'll go late in the third round and end up with any team except the raiders I would hate to see him play for the rangers. New England, Rams, or Tampa Bay for my first choices.


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Post by TomCat88 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:01 am

At first glance 11 FCS players. Two from BSC. Six from MVFC. NDSU and No. Iowa both have two.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Montanabob » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:09 am

TomCat88 wrote:
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Just 3 from the BSC, and unfortunately not Hardy or Lance. And some guy from Wyoming.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by seataccat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:30 am

Travelingcat wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:21 am
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
Unlike Dante Olson, Troy Andersen isn't going to run a 4.88 40. His athletic numbers, as much as anything else, are the key to why he is going to play a long time in the league (assuming he avoids serious injury). The production is just reinforcing that he knows how to put those athletic numbers to use on the football field.
I remember the brain trust on egriz talking about how daunte olson would be a better pro prospect than Troy Andersen. Now the same brainiacs are ****** all over Troy's draft prospects and what he did at the senior bowl. They gris have the worst fan base in this country.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Cataholic » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:31 am

Helcat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:27 pm
https://connect.zebra.com/SrBowlInsights
Hopefully this link to zebra technologies that tracked the players in the senior bowl works. To summarize, Troy hit 20.29mph for the sixth best linebacker for the past 4 senior bowls (101 linebackers) and the top max acceleration of 6.01 yards per second squared. His max acceleration is 6th best for all players for the past 4 years. Not sure what it means for 40 times or how much teams use it for scouting purposes, but impressive nonetheless
During one of the MSU playoff broadcasts, the analyst said Tommy Mellot had the second fastest acceleration on the team. The only person faster was Troy.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by VimSince03 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:37 am

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:31 am
Helcat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:27 pm
https://connect.zebra.com/SrBowlInsights
Hopefully this link to zebra technologies that tracked the players in the senior bowl works. To summarize, Troy hit 20.29mph for the sixth best linebacker for the past 4 senior bowls (101 linebackers) and the top max acceleration of 6.01 yards per second squared. His max acceleration is 6th best for all players for the past 4 years. Not sure what it means for 40 times or how much teams use it for scouting purposes, but impressive nonetheless
During one of the MSU playoff broadcasts, the analyst said Tommy Mellot had the second fastest acceleration on the team. The only person faster was Troy.
@Helcat could you find those 5 LBs ahead of Troy and find their 40 times?


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Team10 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:31 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:37 am
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:31 am
Helcat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:27 pm
https://connect.zebra.com/SrBowlInsights
Hopefully this link to zebra technologies that tracked the players in the senior bowl works. To summarize, Troy hit 20.29mph for the sixth best linebacker for the past 4 senior bowls (101 linebackers) and the top max acceleration of 6.01 yards per second squared. His max acceleration is 6th best for all players for the past 4 years. Not sure what it means for 40 times or how much teams use it for scouting purposes, but impressive nonetheless
During one of the MSU playoff broadcasts, the analyst said Tommy Mellot had the second fastest acceleration on the team. The only person faster was Troy.
@Helcat could you find those 5 LBs ahead of Troy and find their 40 times?
.........................40 time........Fastest Speed Registered (MPH)

Shaqem Griffin........4.38................21.28
Marquis Haynes.......4.67................20.69
Oren Burks.............4.59................20.58
Tariq Carpenter.......- ....................20.40
Davion Taylor..........4.49................20.37
Troy Andersen.........-....................20.29

I'll add that Troy as the third fastest max acceleration at 6.01 yd/s^2 among ALL the defensive players since they started measuring.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by VimSince03 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:43 pm

Team10 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:31 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:37 am
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:31 am
Helcat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:27 pm
https://connect.zebra.com/SrBowlInsights
Hopefully this link to zebra technologies that tracked the players in the senior bowl works. To summarize, Troy hit 20.29mph for the sixth best linebacker for the past 4 senior bowls (101 linebackers) and the top max acceleration of 6.01 yards per second squared. His max acceleration is 6th best for all players for the past 4 years. Not sure what it means for 40 times or how much teams use it for scouting purposes, but impressive nonetheless
During one of the MSU playoff broadcasts, the analyst said Tommy Mellot had the second fastest acceleration on the team. The only person faster was Troy.
@Helcat could you find those 5 LBs ahead of Troy and find their 40 times?
.........................40 time........Fastest Speed Registered (MPH)

Shaqem Griffin........4.38................21.28
Marquis Haynes.......4.67................20.69
Oren Burks.............4.59................20.58
Tariq Carpenter.......- ....................20.40
Davion Taylor..........4.49................20.37
Troy Andersen.........-....................20.29

I'll add that Troy as the third fastest max acceleration at 6.01 yd/s^2 among ALL the defensive players since they started measuring.
My prediction is somewhere between 4.4-4.5


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Helcat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:17 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Team10 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:31 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:37 am
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:31 am
Helcat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:27 pm
https://connect.zebra.com/SrBowlInsights
Hopefully this link to zebra technologies that tracked the players in the senior bowl works. To summarize, Troy hit 20.29mph for the sixth best linebacker for the past 4 senior bowls (101 linebackers) and the top max acceleration of 6.01 yards per second squared. His max acceleration is 6th best for all players for the past 4 years. Not sure what it means for 40 times or how much teams use it for scouting purposes, but impressive nonetheless
During one of the MSU playoff broadcasts, the analyst said Tommy Mellot had the second fastest acceleration on the team. The only person faster was Troy.
@Helcat could you find those 5 LBs ahead of Troy and find their 40 times?
.........................40 time........Fastest Speed Registered (MPH)

Shaqem Griffin........4.38................21.28
Marquis Haynes.......4.67................20.69
Oren Burks.............4.59................20.58
Tariq Carpenter.......- ....................20.40
Davion Taylor..........4.49................20.37
Troy Andersen.........-....................20.29

I'll add that Troy as the third fastest max acceleration at 6.01 yd/s^2 among ALL the defensive players since they started measuring.
My prediction is somewhere between 4.4-4.5
That’s bold! I’m thinking anything under 4.6 is a major win for a 240 pound linebacker.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:39 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:42 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:39 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:14 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:38 pm
A year ago there was a team with guy in our conference that the alum of said team, was a lock for the NFL due to his greatness. I don’t know what that kid does today, but it’s not the NFL.

Is Troy Anderson a lock per us fans or is he a lock per NFL guys in the know. (Mel Kiper is an idiot)

In my opinion, TA will play as long as he wants or can due to health.
100% agree.

Dante Olson was a star in the Big Sky and FCS but his lack of lateral quickness and overall speed to be a professional linebacker should have been clear to most evaluators (and in the end it was). Simply put, Dante projected as a two-down linebacker who excels at stopping north/south run schemes but was a complete liability in pass coverage. Could've been a great special teams player but NFL scouts can find those guys anywhere.

Troy is different because 1) he's a better overall athlete and 2) better overall football player than Dante. Doesn't really have to be more discussion past that as it isn't very hard to understand.
Not gonna be much of a ST’s player with a 4.9 40.
There are plenty of NFL LB's who are great special team players who don't have a blazing 40 time.
You and I both know there’s middle ground between blazing speed and the speed of an offensive lineman.



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