Choate to interview for Boise State job

[Msucat5]

Boise State and then Washington under Petersen have been running teams with big play capabilities. I believe this is the kind of offense Choate wants. Even though the first few years here haven't quite worked out that way because of the quarterback situation, I don't think he'd veer off that path and try to install at Boise what we have here at MSU. We would have a much different offense right now if the quarterback situation during Choate's first two years here were better.

I think that this illustrates a major weakness in Choate’s resume. He simply has not developed a quarterback. He has had plenty of time to identify and recruit the position. Don’t forget he was very high on Bruggman at the beginning of his first season ... basically handing him the job the day he was signed.

I don’t disagree and I think Choate would agree with anyone who calls him out on it. He actually addressed it once. The issue was made worse by Messingham leaving after one season, so there was a continuity setback. Let’s not forget that after leaving MSU, Bruggman landed at a big name FBS school (I forget which one) and he arrived here from an FBS school. So he’s fooled more than Choate and it’s not really fair to single out Choate for the Bruggman con.

Choate has owned it and learned from it. I think that’s a good trait in a coach. Despite his age, I think Choate’s career trajectory is still trending upwards.

Remember Ed Orgeron’s first head coach gig? He was run out of Ole Miss and that’s a place where they’ll tolerate losing. Like Choate, Orgeron cut his teeth on the defensive side of the ball. Orgeron learned from his mistakes and grew from them. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would turn down Orgeron today.

Choate may not have developed QB, but that’s why he hires the X’s and O’s wizards. He’s also never represented himself as someone who develops QB’s. Our last awesome QB under Ash could barely get us past the first round. So it seems you’ve got to recognize there’s more to team success than the QB, even if it is the most important position.

One of Choate best traits is that he keeps learning. He also knows what his weaknesses are and honestly assessed himself.

Those are really good traits in a coach.

And he just needs to be honest in those discussions about his setbacks at QB. He has not had the success he wanted at QB, but has there ever been been a string of setbacks like that at another school? Maybe Wisconsin this year when they were on their fourth string QB this year due to injuries and Covid. His backup was a walk-on freshman. On paper, what Choate accomplished was impressive:

Prukop - All American leaves program to join Oregon after Choate hire.
Brugman - 4 star with experience in Power 5 conference. Looked great in practice but couldn’t pass accurately during games.
Murray - Best athlete on the field, but pass accuracy issues. Leaves school due to grades. Was supposed to rejoin the program but didn’t qualify despite working with the team for a full year.
Jonsen - 4 star from Oregon. Was considered one of the top three dual threat QB’s in the country coming out of high school. Slips on ice and breaks foot after arriving on campus.
Andersen - Recruited to play defense but sheer athleticism makes him the best option at QB.
Rovig - Prepping for his first collegiate start at QB and breaks foot in practice when someone accidentally steps on his foot while jogging in the field house.
Bauman - Has the strongest arm on the team but has issues with decision making and accuracy. He was young and was forced to play before he is really ready.
McKay - NC State transfer who looks like the real deal.
Mellot - Top recruit in state of Montana committed to MSU after intense recruiting battle with rival. Already looks impressive during initial camp.

It is hard to believe all the bad luck that has occurred at that position. It is also hard to say that any other coach would not have made the same decisions that Choate did. He did what any other coach would have done.

That’s a pretty rosy way of looking at things.

Bruggman was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, transferred twice, and had pretty mediocre stats coming out of JUCO before coming here.

Jonsen was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, and didn’t even start at his JUCO before coming here.

Andersen is/was an elite athlete that probably shouldn’t have been a college QB.

Rovig was a very solid QB recruit for this level, he just didn’t hit.

Bauman was a very raw QB recruit, and it seems like he stills needs quite a bit of seasoning before he’s ready to play. Possible TE.

McKay sounds like he will be the starter and the best QB we’ve had in Choate’s tenure.

Mellot seems like a solid QB recruit for this level.

I would say the only bad luck was that QB that was committed here for a while and then decommitted for a bigger school. Expecting Bruggman or Jonsen to be good QB’s was foolish. They hadn’t succeeded in college anywhere prior to coming here. Rovig and Bauman were just misses. That happens. I would not call that bad luck, but maybe poor planning.

I don’t buy into this whole “Choate can’t/hasn’t developed a QB” thing, but I don’t think it can be called all bad luck either. There were some poor decisions made in terms of who to bring in, and also in development.

All fair points. As mentioned in another post, I think most coaches would make the same decisions so hard to fault Choate. I mean how often does a iaa program get to have a 4 star nationally recruited QB in the program? It is also pretty amazing that he has been able to be successful despite the setbacks.

That's the biggest tease of the QB position under Choate's tenure: how good will the team be once he hits on one that can provide the total package that's expected from a QB at this level?

Not only QB's but also an OC that will stick around for more than 1 year. I think we've had 5 OC's in the past 5 years? Messingham, Armstrong, Cole, Miller, Udy

You guys are acting like Rovig didn’t throw for nearly 2000 yards and 15 touchdowns last year, and had a pretty sizable part in getting to the semifinals. Sure he isn’t prukop, but he sure has been solid. You’re giving him the bruggman treatment

[bobcat99]

Boise State and then Washington under Petersen have been running teams with big play capabilities. I believe this is the kind of offense Choate wants. Even though the first few years here haven't quite worked out that way because of the quarterback situation, I don't think he'd veer off that path and try to install at Boise what we have here at MSU. We would have a much different offense right now if the quarterback situation during Choate's first two years here were better.

I think that this illustrates a major weakness in Choate’s resume. He simply has not developed a quarterback. He has had plenty of time to identify and recruit the position. Don’t forget he was very high on Bruggman at the beginning of his first season ... basically handing him the job the day he was signed.

I don’t disagree and I think Choate would agree with anyone who calls him out on it. He actually addressed it once. The issue was made worse by Messingham leaving after one season, so there was a continuity setback. Let’s not forget that after leaving MSU, Bruggman landed at a big name FBS school (I forget which one) and he arrived here from an FBS school. So he’s fooled more than Choate and it’s not really fair to single out Choate for the Bruggman con.

Choate has owned it and learned from it. I think that’s a good trait in a coach. Despite his age, I think Choate’s career trajectory is still trending upwards.

Remember Ed Orgeron’s first head coach gig? He was run out of Ole Miss and that’s a place where they’ll tolerate losing. Like Choate, Orgeron cut his teeth on the defensive side of the ball. Orgeron learned from his mistakes and grew from them. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would turn down Orgeron today.

Choate may not have developed QB, but that’s why he hires the X’s and O’s wizards. He’s also never represented himself as someone who develops QB’s. Our last awesome QB under Ash could barely get us past the first round. So it seems you’ve got to recognize there’s more to team success than the QB, even if it is the most important position.

One of Choate best traits is that he keeps learning. He also knows what his weaknesses are and honestly assessed himself.

Those are really good traits in a coach.

And he just needs to be honest in those discussions about his setbacks at QB. He has not had the success he wanted at QB, but has there ever been been a string of setbacks like that at another school? Maybe Wisconsin this year when they were on their fourth string QB this year due to injuries and Covid. His backup was a walk-on freshman. On paper, what Choate accomplished was impressive:

Prukop - All American leaves program to join Oregon after Choate hire.
Brugman - 4 star with experience in Power 5 conference. Looked great in practice but couldn’t pass accurately during games.
Murray - Best athlete on the field, but pass accuracy issues. Leaves school due to grades. Was supposed to rejoin the program but didn’t qualify despite working with the team for a full year.
Jonsen - 4 star from Oregon. Was considered one of the top three dual threat QB’s in the country coming out of high school. Slips on ice and breaks foot after arriving on campus.
Andersen - Recruited to play defense but sheer athleticism makes him the best option at QB.
Rovig - Prepping for his first collegiate start at QB and breaks foot in practice when someone accidentally steps on his foot while jogging in the field house.
Bauman - Has the strongest arm on the team but has issues with decision making and accuracy. He was young and was forced to play before he is really ready.
McKay - NC State transfer who looks like the real deal.
Mellot - Top recruit in state of Montana committed to MSU after intense recruiting battle with rival. Already looks impressive during initial camp.

It is hard to believe all the bad luck that has occurred at that position. It is also hard to say that any other coach would not have made the same decisions that Choate did. He did what any other coach would have done.

That’s a pretty rosy way of looking at things.

Bruggman was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, transferred twice, and had pretty mediocre stats coming out of JUCO before coming here.

Jonsen was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, and didn’t even start at his JUCO before coming here.

Andersen is/was an elite athlete that probably shouldn’t have been a college QB.

Rovig was a very solid QB recruit for this level, he just didn’t hit.

Bauman was a very raw QB recruit, and it seems like he stills needs quite a bit of seasoning before he’s ready to play. Possible TE.

McKay sounds like he will be the starter and the best QB we’ve had in Choate’s tenure.

Mellot seems like a solid QB recruit for this level.

I would say the only bad luck was that QB that was committed here for a while and then decommitted for a bigger school. Expecting Bruggman or Jonsen to be good QB’s was foolish. They hadn’t succeeded in college anywhere prior to coming here. Rovig and Bauman were just misses. That happens. I would not call that bad luck, but maybe poor planning.

I don’t buy into this whole “Choate can’t/hasn’t developed a QB” thing, but I don’t think it can be called all bad luck either. There were some poor decisions made in terms of who to bring in, and also in development.

All fair points. As mentioned in another post, I think most coaches would make the same decisions so hard to fault Choate. I mean how often does a iaa program get to have a 4 star nationally recruited QB in the program? It is also pretty amazing that he has been able to be successful despite the setbacks.

That's the biggest tease of the QB position under Choate's tenure: how good will the team be once he hits on one that can provide the total package that's expected from a QB at this level?

Not only QB's but also an OC that will stick around for more than 1 year. I think we've had 5 OC's in the past 5 years? Messingham, Armstrong, Cole, Miller, Udy

You guys are acting like Rovig didn’t throw for nearly 2000 yards and 15 touchdowns last year, and had a pretty sizable part in getting to the semifinals. Sure he isn’t prukop, but he sure has been solid. You’re giving him the bruggman treatment

When you have a very good supporting cast, you can be a good team with a QB like Rovig. He is going to take what the defense gives him, at best, and nothing more. If you want to win a championship, or even contend for one, you need a better QB. He’s adequate, which isn’t bad.

[Cledus]

When you have a very good supporting cast, you can be a good team with a QB like Rovig. He is going to take what the defense gives him, at best, and nothing more. If you want to win a championship, or even contend for one, you need a better QB. He’s adequate, which isn’t bad.

Rovig gets almost no love or support here, which really angers me but that's a topic for another day.

I just want to point out that Rovig looked pretty damn good in the playoffs and if I'm not mistaken, that's where it really counts. Even though we eventually lost in the playoffs it wasn't because of anything he did or didn't do.

Edit: not trying to accuse you of anything or argue with you, I was just editorializing on the general feeling Rovig gets here.

[wbtfg]

Boise State and then Washington under Petersen have been running teams with big play capabilities. I believe this is the kind of offense Choate wants. Even though the first few years here haven't quite worked out that way because of the quarterback situation, I don't think he'd veer off that path and try to install at Boise what we have here at MSU. We would have a much different offense right now if the quarterback situation during Choate's first two years here were better.

I think that this illustrates a major weakness in Choate’s resume. He simply has not developed a quarterback. He has had plenty of time to identify and recruit the position. Don’t forget he was very high on Bruggman at the beginning of his first season ... basically handing him the job the day he was signed.

I don’t disagree and I think Choate would agree with anyone who calls him out on it. He actually addressed it once. The issue was made worse by Messingham leaving after one season, so there was a continuity setback. Let’s not forget that after leaving MSU, Bruggman landed at a big name FBS school (I forget which one) and he arrived here from an FBS school. So he’s fooled more than Choate and it’s not really fair to single out Choate for the Bruggman con.

Choate has owned it and learned from it. I think that’s a good trait in a coach. Despite his age, I think Choate’s career trajectory is still trending upwards.

Remember Ed Orgeron’s first head coach gig? He was run out of Ole Miss and that’s a place where they’ll tolerate losing. Like Choate, Orgeron cut his teeth on the defensive side of the ball. Orgeron learned from his mistakes and grew from them. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would turn down Orgeron today.

Choate may not have developed QB, but that’s why he hires the X’s and O’s wizards. He’s also never represented himself as someone who develops QB’s. Our last awesome QB under Ash could barely get us past the first round. So it seems you’ve got to recognize there’s more to team success than the QB, even if it is the most important position.

One of Choate best traits is that he keeps learning. He also knows what his weaknesses are and honestly assessed himself.

Those are really good traits in a coach.

And he just needs to be honest in those discussions about his setbacks at QB. He has not had the success he wanted at QB, but has there ever been been a string of setbacks like that at another school? Maybe Wisconsin this year when they were on their fourth string QB this year due to injuries and Covid. His backup was a walk-on freshman. On paper, what Choate accomplished was impressive:

Prukop - All American leaves program to join Oregon after Choate hire.
Brugman - 4 star with experience in Power 5 conference. Looked great in practice but couldn’t pass accurately during games.
Murray - Best athlete on the field, but pass accuracy issues. Leaves school due to grades. Was supposed to rejoin the program but didn’t qualify despite working with the team for a full year.
Jonsen - 4 star from Oregon. Was considered one of the top three dual threat QB’s in the country coming out of high school. Slips on ice and breaks foot after arriving on campus.
Andersen - Recruited to play defense but sheer athleticism makes him the best option at QB.
Rovig - Prepping for his first collegiate start at QB and breaks foot in practice when someone accidentally steps on his foot while jogging in the field house.
Bauman - Has the strongest arm on the team but has issues with decision making and accuracy. He was young and was forced to play before he is really ready.
McKay - NC State transfer who looks like the real deal.
Mellot - Top recruit in state of Montana committed to MSU after intense recruiting battle with rival. Already looks impressive during initial camp.

It is hard to believe all the bad luck that has occurred at that position. It is also hard to say that any other coach would not have made the same decisions that Choate did. He did what any other coach would have done.

That’s a pretty rosy way of looking at things.

Bruggman was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, transferred twice, and had pretty mediocre stats coming out of JUCO before coming here.

Jonsen was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, and didn’t even start at his JUCO before coming here.

Andersen is/was an elite athlete that probably shouldn’t have been a college QB.

Rovig was a very solid QB recruit for this level, he just didn’t hit.

Bauman was a very raw QB recruit, and it seems like he stills needs quite a bit of seasoning before he’s ready to play. Possible TE.

McKay sounds like he will be the starter and the best QB we’ve had in Choate’s tenure.

Mellot seems like a solid QB recruit for this level.

I would say the only bad luck was that QB that was committed here for a while and then decommitted for a bigger school. Expecting Bruggman or Jonsen to be good QB’s was foolish. They hadn’t succeeded in college anywhere prior to coming here. Rovig and Bauman were just misses. That happens. I would not call that bad luck, but maybe poor planning.

I don’t buy into this whole “Choate can’t/hasn’t developed a QB” thing, but I don’t think it can be called all bad luck either. There were some poor decisions made in terms of who to bring in, and also in development.

All fair points. As mentioned in another post, I think most coaches would make the same decisions so hard to fault Choate. I mean how often does a iaa program get to have a 4 star nationally recruited QB in the program? It is also pretty amazing that he has been able to be successful despite the setbacks.

That's the biggest tease of the QB position under Choate's tenure: how good will the team be once he hits on one that can provide the total package that's expected from a QB at this level?

Not only QB's but also an OC that will stick around for more than 1 year. I think we've had 5 OC's in the past 5 years? Messingham, Armstrong, Cole, Miller, Udy

You guys are acting like Rovig didn’t throw for nearly 2000 yards and 15 touchdowns last year, and had a pretty sizable part in getting to the semifinals. Sure he isn’t prukop, but he sure has been solid. You’re giving him the bruggman treatment

Maybe your didn't mean to respond to me, but I like Rovig a lot! In fact, I was pointing out that having 5 OC's in 5 years may be a bigger red flag than qb play.

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I think that this illustrates a major weakness in Choate’s resume. He simply has not developed a quarterback. He has had plenty of time to identify and recruit the position. Don’t forget he was very high on Bruggman at the beginning of his first season ... basically handing him the job the day he was signed.

I don’t disagree and I think Choate would agree with anyone who calls him out on it. He actually addressed it once. The issue was made worse by Messingham leaving after one season, so there was a continuity setback. Let’s not forget that after leaving MSU, Bruggman landed at a big name FBS school (I forget which one) and he arrived here from an FBS school. So he’s fooled more than Choate and it’s not really fair to single out Choate for the Bruggman con.

Choate has owned it and learned from it. I think that’s a good trait in a coach. Despite his age, I think Choate’s career trajectory is still trending upwards.

Remember Ed Orgeron’s first head coach gig? He was run out of Ole Miss and that’s a place where they’ll tolerate losing. Like Choate, Orgeron cut his teeth on the defensive side of the ball. Orgeron learned from his mistakes and grew from them. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would turn down Orgeron today.

Choate may not have developed QB, but that’s why he hires the X’s and O’s wizards. He’s also never represented himself as someone who develops QB’s. Our last awesome QB under Ash could barely get us past the first round. So it seems you’ve got to recognize there’s more to team success than the QB, even if it is the most important position.

One of Choate best traits is that he keeps learning. He also knows what his weaknesses are and honestly assessed himself.

Those are really good traits in a coach.

And he just needs to be honest in those discussions about his setbacks at QB. He has not had the success he wanted at QB, but has there ever been been a string of setbacks like that at another school? Maybe Wisconsin this year when they were on their fourth string QB this year due to injuries and Covid. His backup was a walk-on freshman. On paper, what Choate accomplished was impressive:

Prukop - All American leaves program to join Oregon after Choate hire.
Brugman - 4 star with experience in Power 5 conference. Looked great in practice but couldn’t pass accurately during games.
Murray - Best athlete on the field, but pass accuracy issues. Leaves school due to grades. Was supposed to rejoin the program but didn’t qualify despite working with the team for a full year.
Jonsen - 4 star from Oregon. Was considered one of the top three dual threat QB’s in the country coming out of high school. Slips on ice and breaks foot after arriving on campus.
Andersen - Recruited to play defense but sheer athleticism makes him the best option at QB.
Rovig - Prepping for his first collegiate start at QB and breaks foot in practice when someone accidentally steps on his foot while jogging in the field house.
Bauman - Has the strongest arm on the team but has issues with decision making and accuracy. He was young and was forced to play before he is really ready.
McKay - NC State transfer who looks like the real deal.
Mellot - Top recruit in state of Montana committed to MSU after intense recruiting battle with rival. Already looks impressive during initial camp.

It is hard to believe all the bad luck that has occurred at that position. It is also hard to say that any other coach would not have made the same decisions that Choate did. He did what any other coach would have done.

That’s a pretty rosy way of looking at things.

Bruggman was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, transferred twice, and had pretty mediocre stats coming out of JUCO before coming here.

Jonsen was a highly ranked recruit coming out of HS, and didn’t even start at his JUCO before coming here.

Andersen is/was an elite athlete that probably shouldn’t have been a college QB.

Rovig was a very solid QB recruit for this level, he just didn’t hit.

Bauman was a very raw QB recruit, and it seems like he stills needs quite a bit of seasoning before he’s ready to play. Possible TE.

McKay sounds like he will be the starter and the best QB we’ve had in Choate’s tenure.

Mellot seems like a solid QB recruit for this level.

I would say the only bad luck was that QB that was committed here for a while and then decommitted for a bigger school. Expecting Bruggman or Jonsen to be good QB’s was foolish. They hadn’t succeeded in college anywhere prior to coming here. Rovig and Bauman were just misses. That happens. I would not call that bad luck, but maybe poor planning.

I don’t buy into this whole “Choate can’t/hasn’t developed a QB” thing, but I don’t think it can be called all bad luck either. There were some poor decisions made in terms of who to bring in, and also in development.

All fair points. As mentioned in another post, I think most coaches would make the same decisions so hard to fault Choate. I mean how often does a iaa program get to have a 4 star nationally recruited QB in the program? It is also pretty amazing that he has been able to be successful despite the setbacks.

That's the biggest tease of the QB position under Choate's tenure: how good will the team be once he hits on one that can provide the total package that's expected from a QB at this level?

Not only QB's but also an OC that will stick around for more than 1 year. I think we've had 5 OC's in the past 5 years? Messingham, Armstrong, Cole, Miller, Udy

You guys are acting like Rovig didn’t throw for nearly 2000 yards and 15 touchdowns last year, and had a pretty sizable part in getting to the semifinals. Sure he isn’t prukop, but he sure has been solid. You’re giving him the bruggman treatment

Maybe your didn't mean to respond to me, but I like Rovig a lot! In fact, I was pointing out that having 5 OC's in 5 years may be a bigger red flag than qb play.

Just a reminder on Rovig that he'll be going into his RS Junior season this fall. That means he still has two more years to continue developing (assuming he attends MSU for 6 years). If Udy isn't one and done here I think Rovig can get much better, even from the bench.

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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

[bobcat99]

When you have a very good supporting cast, you can be a good team with a QB like Rovig. He is going to take what the defense gives him, at best, and nothing more. If you want to win a championship, or even contend for one, you need a better QB. He’s adequate, which isn’t bad.

Rovig gets almost no love or support here, which really angers me but that's a topic for another day.

I just want to point out that Rovig looked pretty damn good in the playoffs and if I'm not mistaken, that's where it really counts. Even though we eventually lost in the playoffs it wasn't because of anything he did or didn't do.

Edit: not trying to accuse you of anything or argue with you, I was just editorializing on the general feeling Rovig gets here.

I would disagree on looking “pretty damn good” in the playoffs. He had one good game against a not so good opponent, then an adequate game, and then a not so good game. It’s just been a while since we’ve seen a good qb, so we overrate what we’ve seen lately.

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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

Accepting the job and then not following through would speak volumes about him but I'm not sure I would take that as a good sign (unless you're a Cowboy).

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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

Accepting the job and then not following through would speak volumes about him but I'm not sure I would take that as a good sign (unless you're a Cowboy).

Not enough information to know one way or the other.

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"Chris Petersen, who is advising Boise State on this hire, has been an influential voice throughout this process, we are told."

I suspect Petersen is a strong advocate for Choate. It is the reason I think he has a real shot at the job.

[Msucat5]

Maybe your didn't mean to respond to me, but I like Rovig a lot! In fact, I was pointing out that having 5 OC's in 5 years may be a bigger red flag than qb play.
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Sorry, pretty new at posting, was just trying to respond to the Rovig slander!

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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

If this is true (the statement I bolded), then I would be concerned if I was Choate.

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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

If this is true (the statement I bolded), then I would be concerned if I was Choate.

That's some really damning gossip. It could also just be one Cowboy defending another Cowboy by saying Boise wasn't good enough for him.

I think it would still be hard for Choate to turn down the job. If he turned it down it would likely never be available to him ever again and potentially hurt his prospects in the future at the FBS level. I assume all FBS schools think an FCS coach should be honored to get an offer and would feel disrespected if they were turned down.

[JDoub]

I think it would still be hard for Choate to turn down the job. If he turned it down it would likely never be available to him ever again and potentially hurt his prospects in the future at the FBS level. I assume all FBS schools think an FCS coach should be honored to get an offer and would feel disrespected if they were turned down.

Oh he would for sure take the job if the offer is made.

Not just making about $1M more in salary, it's a good career move. There's always a risk moving up, he's the type who wants to take those risks. And to do it in his home state would be icing.

Worst case is he'd "Hauck it" and maybe we'd see him again in 7 years

Whatever happens, all the best to Coach Choate - he's a good man.

[AFCAT]

[Montanabob]

And taking two assistant coaches:(

[ibleedblue]

Whoa, ****** just got really real. This would leave us scrambling for sure.

[iaafan]

Whoa, ****** just got really real. This would leave us scrambling for sure.

And you're being kind. Spring ball, if it happens, will be tough. I feel bad for the players. Tough deal.

[bobcat99]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/co ... uxbndlbing

Moore removes himself from Boise State HC search, signs extension with Cowboys


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“What I’ve been told was that he had been offered the job and he accepted the job,” Aikman said. “Then as they were working out some details there was a bit of a disagreement. It was then that Kellen backed out of the deal because he questioned the overall commitment of the university in supporting the football program and his opportunity to have success.

“I would say that’s a great thing on his part,” Aikman continued. “I believe (Boise) is probably his dream job. I think he holds that university in very high regard so for him to not then follow through, I think, speaks volumes about him. I think that’s a good sign. If you’re a Kellen Moore fan and you’re betting on his future, you’d say, gosh, now I like him even more.”

If this is true (the statement I bolded), then I would be concerned if I was Choate.

Boise probably didn’t want to pay the money required for Moore and his assistants.

Choate is a good candidate for the job, and he’s also easily the most affordable. They could offer him half of what they were paying Harsin, and it would double Choate’s current paycheck. Makes sense on multiple levels for Boise.

[bobcat99]

Whoa, ****** just got really real. This would leave us scrambling for sure.

This is when coaching changes typically happen.