Choate to interview for Boise State job

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I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.

My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.

I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.

I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.

Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.

I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.

The avg salary for a NFL coordinator is literally 1 million. Are you saying that Moore only makes 70k? That doesn’t seem right. If that’s the case he’d be jumping for the BSU job.

[PapaG]

I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

Had Dak Prescott stayed healthy this year then Moore is the next Sean McVay or Matt LaFleur as a young NFL head coach. He’d be wise to stay one more year in Dallas as OC with Prescott, Elliott, and that great and young WR core. With McCarthy, he’s also learning from a Super Bowl winking coach with a lot of experience and connections in the NFL.

With the turmoil in the Boise AD, hiring Choate would signal that the Broncos are willing to take a step back in their program, and I can’t see the boosters getting behind the hire.

[TomCat88]

I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.

My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.

I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.

I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.

Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.

I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.

The avg salary for a NFL coordinator is literally 1 million. Are you saying that Moore only makes 70k? That doesn’t seem right. If that’s the case he’d be jumping for the BSU job.

I searched his salary and it says he only makes $72,000 at Dallas. I find that very hard to believe. Maybe they left off a 0? Nevertheless Dallas, if they treasure Moore, would probably have no problem paying him more than Boise State could, but he may take lower pay to be a head coach. He's still got a couple games, potentially, to coach for the Cowboys, so things could change rapidly.

Some reports say Moore has interviewed already, some reports say they're waiting until after they hire an AD. This picture isn't getting any clearer.

[onceacat]

I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

Had Dak Prescott stayed healthy this year then Moore is the next Sean McVay or Matt LaFleur as a young NFL head coach. He’d be wise to stay one more year in Dallas as OC with Prescott, Elliott, and that great and young WR core. With McCarthy, he’s also learning from a Super Bowl winking coach with a lot of experience and connections in the NFL.

With the turmoil in the Boise AD, hiring Choate would signal that the Broncos are willing to take a step back in their program, and I can’t see the boosters getting behind the hire.

Yeah, only makes sense for Moore if he really wants to be a college coach. And while I don’t think Choate is actually a step back, it’s a very high risk that he is perceived as such. Especially if BSU has a down year.

[BleedingBLue]

I'm going to say Kellen Moore is getting the job. In Mike McCarthy's post game presser yesterday he said it was Moore and Boise State's responsibility to make an announcement when the time is right. The article I read said his demeanor when talking about Moore and his opportunity, which he quickly back tracked and called a potential opportunity, was much more somber than the rest of his presser. It also mentions that there is a sense around the organization that he's going to be leaving.

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I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.

My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.

I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.

I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.

Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.

I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.

The avg salary for a NFL coordinator is literally 1 million. Are you saying that Moore only makes 70k? That doesn’t seem right. If that’s the case he’d be jumping for the BSU job.

I searched his salary and it says he only makes $72,000 at Dallas. I find that very hard to believe. Maybe they left off a 0? Nevertheless Dallas, if they treasure Moore, would probably have no problem paying him more than Boise State could, but he may take lower pay to be a head coach. He's still got a couple games, potentially, to coach for the Cowboys, so things could change rapidly.

Some reports say Moore has interviewed already, some reports say they're waiting until after they hire an AD. This picture isn't getting any clearer.

Ya, I saw that $72,000 thing too and it doesn't make any sense. Perhaps they structured it differently and paid him like 500K as a bonus in addition to the 72K for a one year contract? The average pay for NFL OC with salary and bonuses is close to 1,000,000 so Moore settling for 72k can't be right.

[iaafan]

I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".

Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...

I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.

My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.

I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.

I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.

Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.

I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.

The avg salary for a NFL coordinator is literally 1 million. Are you saying that Moore only makes 70k? That doesn’t seem right. If that’s the case he’d be jumping for the BSU job.

I searched his salary and it says he only makes $72,000 at Dallas. I find that very hard to believe. Maybe they left off a 0? Nevertheless Dallas, if they treasure Moore, would probably have no problem paying him more than Boise State could, but he may take lower pay to be a head coach. He's still got a couple games, potentially, to coach for the Cowboys, so things could change rapidly.

Some reports say Moore has interviewed already, some reports say they're waiting until after they hire an AD. This picture isn't getting any clearer.

Ya, I saw that $72,000 thing too and it doesn't make any sense. Perhaps they structured it differently and paid him like 500K as a bonus in addition to the 72K for a one year contract? The average pay for NFL OC with salary and bonuses is close to 1,000,000 so Moore settling for 72k can't be right.

If you open up that website it shows the $72,000 being his 2017 playing contract of which he spent a lot of time on the practice squad. He's definitely making over $500,000 as the OC. probably closer to $1 million. He's done an excellent job as the Cowboys OC and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to entice him to stay. If so, that significantly increases Choate's chances.

[ND0479]

The Kellen Moore movement is reported on about every segment here in DFW and it's generally with the assumption he's leaving for the Boise gig.

Jerry Jones on a local DFW radio station:

[iaafan]

The Kellen Moore movement is reported on about every segment here in DFW and it's generally with the assumption he's leaving for the Boise gig.

Jerry Jones on a local DFW radio station:

I don't get why Jones, who referred to Moore as Tom Landry III, wouldn't try to get Moore to stay. If he calls him that and Moore is doing what he's doing with the offense, then why not offer him a raise. Is this comment you posted by Jones possibly posturing? I'm not sure how that works, but that doesn't seem like a good way to do it.

[wbtfg]

The Kellen Moore movement is reported on about every segment here in DFW and it's generally with the assumption he's leaving for the Boise gig.

Jerry Jones on a local DFW radio station:

I don't get why Jones, who referred to Moore as Tom Landry III, wouldn't try to get Moore to stay. If he calls him that and Moore is doing what he's doing with the offense, then why not offer him a raise. Is this comment you posted by Jones possibly posturing? I'm not sure how that works, but that doesn't seem like a good way to do it.

I sure wouldn't hitch my wagon to Mike McCarthy.

[CelticCat]

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"Like sands through the hour glass, these are the days of our lives."

[Long Time Cat]

"Like sands through the hour glass, these are the days of our lives."

[Cataholic]

The Kellen Moore movement is reported on about every segment here in DFW and it's generally with the assumption he's leaving for the Boise gig.

Jerry Jones on a local DFW radio station:

I don't get why Jones, who referred to Moore as Tom Landry III, wouldn't try to get Moore to stay. If he calls him that and Moore is doing what he's doing with the offense, then why not offer him a raise. Is this comment you posted by Jones possibly posturing? I'm not sure how that works, but that doesn't seem like a good way to do it.

Jones is a smart businessman. I would guess Moore would like a raise to stay in Dallas and Jones public comments are part of his negotiation tactics with Moore.

[iaafan]

The Kellen Moore movement is reported on about every segment here in DFW and it's generally with the assumption he's leaving for the Boise gig.

Jerry Jones on a local DFW radio station:

I don't get why Jones, who referred to Moore as Tom Landry III, wouldn't try to get Moore to stay. If he calls him that and Moore is doing what he's doing with the offense, then why not offer him a raise. Is this comment you posted by Jones possibly posturing? I'm not sure how that works, but that doesn't seem like a good way to do it.

Jones is a smart businessman. I would guess Moore would like a raise to stay in Dallas and Jones public comments are part of his negotiation tactics with Moore.

Ahh, now I get it. Moore might not be a bad businessman either.

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If you open up that website it shows the $72,000 being his 2017 playing contract of which he spent a lot of time on the practice squad. He's definitely making over $500,000 as the OC. probably closer to $1 million. He's done an excellent job as the Cowboys OC and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to entice him to stay. If so, that significantly increases Choate's chances.

Gotchya, thank you sir... I knew that couldn't be right.

[onceacat]

Of course, given roughly equally salaries, Boise is 1000x the quality of life of Dallas.

[imacat]

Found this on Moore ...

https://www.ktvb.com/article/sports/nca ... d5e4112c02

[Montanabob]

Of course, given roughly equally salaries, Boise is 1000x the quality of life of Dallas.

And averages more wins in a season.

[Catsrgrood]

So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?