The dominoes start to fall for spring season

[TomCat88]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

I would hope that MSU, or any university sports program, has never asked anyone that is struggling financially to support its football program.

[blueandgoldblitz]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

[onceacat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

[iaafan]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

[PapaG]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

State and local governments choosing which businesses are winners and which are losers based on a mostly non-fatal virus, and arresting people for trying to keep their “non-essential” businesses open, is not at all a “centrist” policy. Like when Newsom shut down the wineries in CA except for his, of course. Nope, just a “centrist” coincidence. It’s an overblown reaction to a virus that is fast-tracking millions of people to government dependency.

Anyone who takes all of these mandates and regulations without any skepticism is a lost person in the herd, IMO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kget.c ... -open/amp/

17 News viewers want to know why a winery founded by Gov. Gavin Newsom remains open even after he ordered many businesses to close their indoor operations in the state.

Newsom ordered closures in 19 counties, including Kern County, earlier this week. Those counties have been on the state’s watchlist for COVID-19.

In the 1990s, Gavin Newsom co-founded the Plumpjack Group which operates wineries in Napa. Plumpjack is open and accepting reservations for tastings.

[iaafan]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

State and local governments choosing which businesses are winners and which are losers based on a mostly non-fatal virus, and arresting people for trying to keep their “non-essential” businesses open, is not at all a “centrist” policy. Like when Newsom shut down the wineries in CA except for his, of course. Nope, just a “centrist” coincidence. It’s an overblown reaction to a virus that is fast-tracking millions of people to government dependency.

Anyone who takes all of these mandates and regulations without any skepticism is a lost person in the herd, IMO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kget.c ... -open/amp/

17 News viewers want to know why a winery founded by Gov. Gavin Newsom remains open even after he ordered many businesses to close their indoor operations in the state.

Newsom ordered closures in 19 counties, including Kern County, earlier this week. Those counties have been on the state’s watchlist for COVID-19.

In the 1990s, Gavin Newsom co-founded the Plumpjack Group which operates wineries in Napa. Plumpjack is open and accepting reservations for tastings.

You can't create a healthy economy without healthy people.

[coloradocat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

State and local governments choosing which businesses are winners and which are losers based on a mostly non-fatal virus, and arresting people for trying to keep their “non-essential” businesses open, is not at all a “centrist” policy. Like when Newsom shut down the wineries in CA except for his, of course. Nope, just a “centrist” coincidence. It’s an overblown reaction to a virus that is fast-tracking millions of people to government dependency.

Anyone who takes all of these mandates and regulations without any skepticism is a lost person in the herd, IMO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kget.c ... -open/amp/

17 News viewers want to know why a winery founded by Gov. Gavin Newsom remains open even after he ordered many businesses to close their indoor operations in the state.

Newsom ordered closures in 19 counties, including Kern County, earlier this week. Those counties have been on the state’s watchlist for COVID-19.

In the 1990s, Gavin Newsom co-founded the Plumpjack Group which operates wineries in Napa. Plumpjack is open and accepting reservations for tastings.

You can't create a healthy economy without healthy people.

Good thing we have over 300 million healthy people in America right now. Or is it all or nothing now and until not a single person gets sick we have to restrict freedom of association?

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

State and local governments choosing which businesses are winners and which are losers based on a mostly non-fatal virus, and arresting people for trying to keep their “non-essential” businesses open, is not at all a “centrist” policy. Like when Newsom shut down the wineries in CA except for his, of course. Nope, just a “centrist” coincidence. It’s an overblown reaction to a virus that is fast-tracking millions of people to government dependency.

Anyone who takes all of these mandates and regulations without any skepticism is a lost person in the herd, IMO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kget.c ... -open/amp/

17 News viewers want to know why a winery founded by Gov. Gavin Newsom remains open even after he ordered many businesses to close their indoor operations in the state.

Newsom ordered closures in 19 counties, including Kern County, earlier this week. Those counties have been on the state’s watchlist for COVID-19.

In the 1990s, Gavin Newsom co-founded the Plumpjack Group which operates wineries in Napa. Plumpjack is open and accepting reservations for tastings.

You can't create a healthy economy without healthy people.

Just a lamb headed for slaughter and you don’t even know it.

Scary

[CelticCat]

Oh look, another political argument about masks.

[ilovethecats]

[coloradocat]

Oh look, another political argument about masks.

I blame the teams. If they would just drop out at a faster pace we'd have something to talk about.

[iaafan]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

State and local governments choosing which businesses are winners and which are losers based on a mostly non-fatal virus, and arresting people for trying to keep their “non-essential” businesses open, is not at all a “centrist” policy. Like when Newsom shut down the wineries in CA except for his, of course. Nope, just a “centrist” coincidence. It’s an overblown reaction to a virus that is fast-tracking millions of people to government dependency.

Anyone who takes all of these mandates and regulations without any skepticism is a lost person in the herd, IMO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kget.c ... -open/amp/

17 News viewers want to know why a winery founded by Gov. Gavin Newsom remains open even after he ordered many businesses to close their indoor operations in the state.

Newsom ordered closures in 19 counties, including Kern County, earlier this week. Those counties have been on the state’s watchlist for COVID-19.

In the 1990s, Gavin Newsom co-founded the Plumpjack Group which operates wineries in Napa. Plumpjack is open and accepting reservations for tastings.

You can't create a healthy economy without healthy people.

Just a lamb headed for slaughter and you don’t even know it.

Scary

Yeah, I'll go with scientists over authoritarian politicians every time. So, who's the lamb heading for slaughter now?

[Cataholic]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

[onceacat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

[ilovethecats]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

[coloradocat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

Heads I win, tails you lose.

[CelticCat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

Just because you see folks wearing masks at Albertson's doesn't mean they don't go home and have a BBQ with 50 of their closest friends, mask free. Or weddings, or funerals, house parties, etc.

It's very clear a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are required to do so.

[ilovethecats]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

Just because you see folks wearing masks at Albertson's doesn't mean they don't go home and have a BBQ with 50 of their closest friends, mask free. Or weddings, or funerals, house parties, etc.

It's very clear a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are required to do so.

I guess I don't dispute that because I can't. To me it's not "very clear" a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are supposed to. Even though, in Montana, "only where they are supposed to" is basically every place except home.

To me that seems like a cop out in the whole mask debate. Just because I see people wearing masks everywhere in public, doesn't mean they are wearing them at house parties or BBQ's? Well of course not. I also have no idea if people are washing their hands behind closed doors either. Or covering their mouths when they sneeze or cough. Or wear the same nasty mask for an entire week. I don't know these things and don't claim to. The difference is the people claiming to KNOW that people not wearing masks are what is the driving force of the spread of this virus.

[CelticCat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

Just because you see folks wearing masks at Albertson's doesn't mean they don't go home and have a BBQ with 50 of their closest friends, mask free. Or weddings, or funerals, house parties, etc.

It's very clear a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are required to do so.

I guess I don't dispute that because I can't. To me it's not "very clear" a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are supposed to. Even though, in Montana, "only where they are supposed to" is basically every place except home.

To me that seems like a cop out in the whole mask debate. Just because I see people wearing masks everywhere in public, doesn't mean they are wearing them at house parties or BBQ's? Well of course not. I also have no idea if people are washing their hands behind closed doors either. Or covering their mouths when they sneeze or cough. Or wear the same nasty mask for an entire week. I don't know these things and don't claim to. The difference is the people claiming to KNOW that people not wearing masks are what is the driving force of the spread of this virus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/health/u ... index.html

Household get-togethers are helping to drive rise in cases, CDC chief says
Small gatherings are becoming a growing source of Covid-19 spread, a leading health expert said, as cases and hospitalizations are on the rise nationwide.

"In the public square, we're seeing a higher degree of vigilance and mitigation steps in many jurisdictions," said CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield during a call with the nation's governors on Tuesday. Audio of the call was obtained by CNN.
"But what we're seeing as the increasing threat right now is actually acquisition of infection through small household gatherings," Redfield said. "Particularly with Thanksgiving coming up, we think it's really important to stress the vigilance of these continued mitigation steps in the household setting."

Dr. Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine at George Washington University, said Wednesday he'd advise people to consider not having indoor Thanksgiving dinners with others who aren't in their immediate household.
"If you're lucky enough to live in a part of the country where the weather will be moderate in November, do an outdoor Thanksgiving. (But) I think in the ... places in the country where the winter comes early, I think you have to really be careful," Reiner told CNN's "New Day."

"The consequences of this virus, particularly for older folks -- the people that we really want to gather with on Thanksgiving -- can be really dire," he said. And, frankly, I'd rather do a Zoom Thanksgiving with people that I love than expose them to something that might kill them," he said.
"Next year is going to be much better. Let's get through this, and let's get through it safely."

[coloradocat]

Is asking people already struggling financially to support what would be a sham Spring season worth it? Biden is already swing he’ll have mandatory masks at a federal level. It’s as Fascist as it gets but I do believe him when he says he’ll do it, and use the police to enforce it.

Being told to wear masks is not fascism...it's a simple public health order. Some people have become WAY tooliberal with the use of the terms fascist and communist without knowing what they mean.

It’s art of the anti-intellectual dumbing down of our society. If you don’t like a centrist policy, invent a nasty name & get your side all riled up. It’s great for corrupt politicians trying to get us to fight with each other, but really bad for real Americans that just want to get out of this pandemic & back to things like football.

Apparently it's bad for the economy to have a healthy population. Or we don't need healthy people to have a thriving economy. I mean, who needs customers, as long as your business is open, the economy will thrive.

There are 320 million in the US. In the past 7 days, there have been 400,000 new cases reported. Assuming the infection period is two weeks, that means there are 800,000 active cases today. That means that 319.2 million people do not have Covid right now and could walk into a store to conduct business. Only 0.25% percent of the population currently have Covid. Do you think a business can survive with 99.75% of the population healthy today?

You can buy tickets for the World Series behind home plate for about $500, even though capacity is limited to 28%. Those are almost Cat-Griz ticket prices, not World Series prices.

There have never been any restrictions on flying, but tickets are down 50%.

Its obvious to anyone willing to look at data that when there's an uncontrolled disease that has a case fatally rate of 1.5-3%, people start staying home.

It has NOTHING to do with gubbmint, it has to do with people exercising common sense.

Wouldn't this imply that overall people are doing what they can to "slow the spread"? I hear we are nearing a mask shortage again. Would this be because the majority of people are wearing masks? If so many people are exercising common sense, barely flying anywhere, not attending sporting events despite cheap prices, and seem to be wearing masks.....

How come every day I see cases going up, hospitalizations going up, (deaths going down or remaining the same) people blame others for not being responsible and not using common sense to fight the virus? I have been told it's spreading because of selfish people that don't care about others. Even your couple stats above would seem to say otherwise.

Just because you see folks wearing masks at Albertson's doesn't mean they don't go home and have a BBQ with 50 of their closest friends, mask free. Or weddings, or funerals, house parties, etc.

It's very clear a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are required to do so.

I guess I don't dispute that because I can't. To me it's not "very clear" a lot of people are wearing masks only when they are supposed to. Even though, in Montana, "only where they are supposed to" is basically every place except home.

To me that seems like a cop out in the whole mask debate. Just because I see people wearing masks everywhere in public, doesn't mean they are wearing them at house parties or BBQ's? Well of course not. I also have no idea if people are washing their hands behind closed doors either. Or covering their mouths when they sneeze or cough. Or wear the same nasty mask for an entire week. I don't know these things and don't claim to. The difference is the people claiming to KNOW that people not wearing masks are what is the driving force of the spread of this virus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/health/u ... index.html

Household get-togethers are helping to drive rise in cases, CDC chief says
Small gatherings are becoming a growing source of Covid-19 spread, a leading health expert said, as cases and hospitalizations are on the rise nationwide.

"In the public square, we're seeing a higher degree of vigilance and mitigation steps in many jurisdictions," said CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield during a call with the nation's governors on Tuesday. Audio of the call was obtained by CNN.
"But what we're seeing as the increasing threat right now is actually acquisition of infection through small household gatherings," Redfield said. "Particularly with Thanksgiving coming up, we think it's really important to stress the vigilance of these continued mitigation steps in the household setting."

Dr. Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine at George Washington University, said Wednesday he'd advise people to consider not having indoor Thanksgiving dinners with others who aren't in their immediate household.
"If you're lucky enough to live in a part of the country where the weather will be moderate in November, do an outdoor Thanksgiving. (But) I think in the ... places in the country where the winter comes early, I think you have to really be careful," Reiner told CNN's "New Day."

"The consequences of this virus, particularly for older folks -- the people that we really want to gather with on Thanksgiving -- can be really dire," he said. And, frankly, I'd rather do a Zoom Thanksgiving with people that I love than expose them to something that might kill them," he said.
"Next year is going to be much better. Let's get through this, and let's get through it safely."

There's no reason to think it's going to be any better next year. That's just a lie to get people to comply with restrictions. We'll never get to herd immunity at this rate if people keep distancing and wearing masks and the miracle vaccine will likely not be very effective, and especially not widely available, anytime soon.