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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by iaafan » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:44 am

ilovethecats wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:08 am
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:39 am
imacat wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:41 pm
The article says 320 people have donated. I think we can do much better than that. Is this something we are willing to invest in or do we just wait for others to get the job done?
It is surprising how few people give to a project like this considering the size of the fan base. Hope this pushes some folks to give what they can.
I feel like this is pretty typical for this kind of effort. It was discussed at length on this board but it appears their strategy was to go after the whales first. Get the brunt of the money. Make an announcement in the summer that only another million or so is needed. This figure is much more realistic for the average donor. Suddenly your few hundred bucks, 500, even a 1000 seems much more likely to help.

I agree with the poster who expects an announcement or two within the season and I expect ground to be broken soon.

Great effort by all.
Great effort indeed! $16.5 million has been raised ALL from private donors. Compare that to the other EZ project. I think just half of the $10 million was private. Compare that to UM’s similar facility, which only got $10 million of the total $14 million from private donors.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:35 am

They need to get that Goal Tracker web page going as well as the 10.00 donation Texting again. That worked very well on the last bit of the endzone project.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Cat4LifeHouseDivided » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:23 pm

CARDIAC_CATS wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:35 am
They need to get that Goal Tracker web page going as well as the 10.00 donation Texting again. That worked very well on the last bit of the endzone project.
I was just saying this to some friends. I think it would close the gap pretty quickly.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Mr Lisle » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:33 pm

Not that it ultimately makes any difference....but hasn't this fund raiser had a very long runway? It just didn't come about when Costello got here. Seems it "began" during the latter part of Fields tenure.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Hawks86 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:45 pm

Mr Lisle wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:33 pm
Not that it ultimately makes any difference....but hasn't this fund raiser had a very long runway? It just didn't come about when Costello got here. Seems it "began" during the latter part of Fields tenure.
https://billingsgazette.com/sports/msu- ... beff7.html

Compared to what Costello did, this wasn't really much of a plan.


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Cataholic » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:54 pm

Cat4LifeHouseDivided wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:23 pm
CARDIAC_CATS wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:35 am
They need to get that Goal Tracker web page going as well as the 10.00 donation Texting again. That worked very well on the last bit of the endzone project.
I was just saying this to some friends. I think it would close the gap pretty quickly.
It will help, but we would need 150,000 donations at $10 each to raise $1.5 million. At $100 each, we still need 15,000 contributors.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:01 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:54 pm
Cat4LifeHouseDivided wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:23 pm
CARDIAC_CATS wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:35 am
They need to get that Goal Tracker web page going as well as the 10.00 donation Texting again. That worked very well on the last bit of the endzone project.
I was just saying this to some friends. I think it would close the gap pretty quickly.
It will help, but we would need 150,000 donations at $10 each to raise $1.5 million. At $100 each, we still need 15,000 contributors.
I can't remember how much was left for the Endzone when they did that, but that bar moved pretty quickly upward. I do think there was a 50/50 match of donations from the QB club if I remember right. Maybe there was a big donor that closed the gap late, but the bar was moving pretty good early on when they did that.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Grizaddict » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:41 pm

iaafan wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:44 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:08 am
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:39 am
imacat wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:41 pm
The article says 320 people have donated. I think we can do much better than that. Is this something we are willing to invest in or do we just wait for others to get the job done?
It is surprising how few people give to a project like this considering the size of the fan base. Hope this pushes some folks to give what they can.
I feel like this is pretty typical for this kind of effort. It was discussed at length on this board but it appears their strategy was to go after the whales first. Get the brunt of the money. Make an announcement in the summer that only another million or so is needed. This figure is much more realistic for the average donor. Suddenly your few hundred bucks, 500, even a 1000 seems much more likely to help.

I agree with the poster who expects an announcement or two within the season and I expect ground to be broken soon.

Great effort by all.
Great effort indeed! $16.5 million has been raised ALL from private donors. Compare that to the other EZ project. I think just half of the $10 million was private. Compare that to UM’s similar facility, which only got $10 million of the total $14 million from private donors.
I saw MSU is also financing 3M and paying off with future revenues. Is that above and beyond the 16.5/18 or part of the package?



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by thefrank1 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:56 pm

How about a surcharge for each game admission of $15? That could raise almost $2 million or more.


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by allcat » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:00 pm

thefrank1 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:56 pm
How about a surcharge for each game admission of $15? That could raise almost $2 million or more.
That would also be good for killing attendance now.


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by grizgirl » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:27 pm

I’m speechless. You guys have got it going on. Congrats!

If the BOR approves in July, you should have the plans complete by when? Is it possible for construction to start this summer?



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Caturday » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:31 pm

Don’t forget that your donation can be pledged and paid over 5 years! 3000 people pledging $100/yr for 5 years and we’re there.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by btribby » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:42 pm

Grizaddict wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:41 pm
iaafan wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:44 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:08 am
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:39 am
imacat wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:41 pm
The article says 320 people have donated. I think we can do much better than that. Is this something we are willing to invest in or do we just wait for others to get the job done?
It is surprising how few people give to a project like this considering the size of the fan base. Hope this pushes some folks to give what they can.
I feel like this is pretty typical for this kind of effort. It was discussed at length on this board but it appears their strategy was to go after the whales first. Get the brunt of the money. Make an announcement in the summer that only another million or so is needed. This figure is much more realistic for the average donor. Suddenly your few hundred bucks, 500, even a 1000 seems much more likely to help.

I agree with the poster who expects an announcement or two within the season and I expect ground to be broken soon.

Great effort by all.
Great effort indeed! $16.5 million has been raised ALL from private donors. Compare that to the other EZ project. I think just half of the $10 million was private. Compare that to UM’s similar facility, which only got $10 million of the total $14 million from private donors.
I saw MSU is also financing 3M and paying off with future revenues. Is that above and beyond the 16.5/18 or part of the package?
Thats a really good question. Anybody know?


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:44 pm

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Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:36 am
It’s the structure in blue. The structure will be around 37,000 square feet. It’s roughly 35x350 (12,250 sqft) each floor. The academic area in the fieldhouse is another 3,400 sqft.

The cost is $18 million. It has lots of extras including a hydrotherapy area, which will set it apart from other similar facilities in the league.
It’s two levels, so probably a 45’ x 400’ footprint. 18,500 square feet.


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Hawks86 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:06 pm

We are requesting up to $18,000,000 in authority, to include design and other non-construction costs.
Up to $3,000,000 will be financed by the University, which will be repaid with non-state revenues
generated by MSU Athletics. The remainder of the project, approximately $15,000,000, will be
funded from external gifts (donations) to this project.
https://mus.edu/board/meetings/2019/Jul ... -R0719.pdf


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Grizaddict » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:51 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:06 pm
We are requesting up to $18,000,000 in authority, to include design and other non-construction costs.
Up to $3,000,000 will be financed by the University, which will be repaid with non-state revenues
generated by MSU Athletics. The remainder of the project, approximately $15,000,000, will be
funded from external gifts (donations) to this project.
https://mus.edu/board/meetings/2019/Jul ... -R0719.pdf
Thank you for info. So does that mean about 13.5M has been raised thus far from donors and then they need another 1.5M from public to get to 15M and then will finance 3M for a total of 18M. That’s how that seemed to read but must admit it’s confusing. Earlier reports made it sound like 16.5 have been raised already but this seems to negate that.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Mr Lisle » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:56 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:45 pm
Mr Lisle wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:33 pm
Not that it ultimately makes any difference....but hasn't this fund raiser had a very long runway? It just didn't come about when Costello got here. Seems it "began" during the latter part of Fields tenure.
https://billingsgazette.com/sports/msu- ... beff7.html

Compared to what Costello did, this wasn't really much of a plan.
I understand what you're saying. But you gotta admit, it was a hell of a stadium.



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Catfanatic84 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:51 pm

btribby wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:01 am
catsrback76 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:23 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:57 pm
MSU Toddler wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:29 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:32 pm
As far as the actual building goes, does anyone know if the whole building is a part of this $18 million phase 1?

The renderings kind of look like two similar sized buildings connected by some windows. I could have sworn that when this plan first came out two years ago that it was mentioned that the second building closest to Kagy was a future expansion. But I haven’t been able to find anything about that again.

Edit: I think I answered my own question. According to this picture, the total structure in the end zone will be two separate phases.

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This seems to indicate that it is both buildings and the End Zone - maybe? (sort of confusing): https://msubobcats.com/documents/2017/9 ... df?id=2687
The page labeled "Phase One" on the Facilities Plan website makes it pretty clear to me that the first construction will only be the part of the structure highlighted in blue on the image you posted, as well as the renovation of the existing football offices in the Fieldhouse into the new academic center. The North End Zone seating is listed on the website as Phase 2 of the Bobcat Stadium renovation, after Phase 1 which is the replacement of the east sideline structure. I believe the pictured extension of the Athletic Complex that's closer to Kagy is probably in reference to the "future additions could include..." section of the facilities plan.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=352
Makes sense, but based on the labeling of the drawings I saw the two buildings were listed as 1 structure. But 18 mill seemed a little light on the cost so that makes sense to me.
I also believe its just the building that is highlighted in blue. Some of the drawings that MSU has posted of the inside of the building are really impressive.

I dont see the 320 people donating as a big issue. Im really really impressed that MSU was able to raise that kind of money that quickly. Especially after the big education fundraiser the raised something like 300 mil. The article stated that there would be a big push to get the additional 1.5 mil needed. My mind immediately jumped to the small donation drive that was used to complete the south endzone. The biggest thing I remember was you could text some number and automatically donate $10 (I cant tell you how many cell phones of griz fans I stole at cat/griz that year while they were drunk and texted that number). I believe that was a huge money maker for that final push. Im assuming we will see something similar for this. Probably announced at Gold Rush. Hopefully meet the goal sometime mid season with construction starting just before Christmas after our semifinal win.

Does anybody know how this will make the stadium look? The more I thought about it I think the videoboard will be left exactly where its at right now. That leads to another question; do the two buildings (one is our game day lockeroom) stay in place until the seating in the north endzone is completed? My thoughts are that the new BAC building would sit back enough where those two existing buildings wouldnt necessarily have to be torn down right away. Thoughts???
One additional benefit from the NEZ being enclosed....it will be louder!



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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by Long Time Cat » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:17 pm

Catfanatic84 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:51 pm
btribby wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:01 am
catsrback76 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:23 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:57 pm
MSU Toddler wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:29 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:32 pm
As far as the actual building goes, does anyone know if the whole building is a part of this $18 million phase 1?

The renderings kind of look like two similar sized buildings connected by some windows. I could have sworn that when this plan first came out two years ago that it was mentioned that the second building closest to Kagy was a future expansion. But I haven’t been able to find anything about that again.

Edit: I think I answered my own question. According to this picture, the total structure in the end zone will be two separate phases.

Image
This seems to indicate that it is both buildings and the End Zone - maybe? (sort of confusing): https://msubobcats.com/documents/2017/9 ... df?id=2687
The page labeled "Phase One" on the Facilities Plan website makes it pretty clear to me that the first construction will only be the part of the structure highlighted in blue on the image you posted, as well as the renovation of the existing football offices in the Fieldhouse into the new academic center. The North End Zone seating is listed on the website as Phase 2 of the Bobcat Stadium renovation, after Phase 1 which is the replacement of the east sideline structure. I believe the pictured extension of the Athletic Complex that's closer to Kagy is probably in reference to the "future additions could include..." section of the facilities plan.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=352
Makes sense, but based on the labeling of the drawings I saw the two buildings were listed as 1 structure. But 18 mill seemed a little light on the cost so that makes sense to me.
I also believe its just the building that is highlighted in blue. Some of the drawings that MSU has posted of the inside of the building are really impressive.

I dont see the 320 people donating as a big issue. Im really really impressed that MSU was able to raise that kind of money that quickly. Especially after the big education fundraiser the raised something like 300 mil. The article stated that there would be a big push to get the additional 1.5 mil needed. My mind immediately jumped to the small donation drive that was used to complete the south endzone. The biggest thing I remember was you could text some number and automatically donate $10 (I cant tell you how many cell phones of griz fans I stole at cat/griz that year while they were drunk and texted that number). I believe that was a huge money maker for that final push. Im assuming we will see something similar for this. Probably announced at Gold Rush. Hopefully meet the goal sometime mid season with construction starting just before Christmas after our semifinal win.

Does anybody know how this will make the stadium look? The more I thought about it I think the videoboard will be left exactly where its at right now. That leads to another question; do the two buildings (one is our game day lockeroom) stay in place until the seating in the north endzone is completed? My thoughts are that the new BAC building would sit back enough where those two existing buildings wouldnt necessarily have to be torn down right away. Thoughts???
One additional benefit from the NEZ being enclosed....it will be louder!
Will it help with the wind?


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Re: Facilities - Coach Choate

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:31 pm

Grizaddict wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:51 pm
Hawks86 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:06 pm
We are requesting up to $18,000,000 in authority, to include design and other non-construction costs.
Up to $3,000,000 will be financed by the University, which will be repaid with non-state revenues
generated by MSU Athletics. The remainder of the project, approximately $15,000,000, will be
funded from external gifts (donations) to this project.
https://mus.edu/board/meetings/2019/Jul ... -R0719.pdf
Thank you for info. So does that mean about 13.5M has been raised thus far from donors and then they need another 1.5M from public to get to 15M and then will finance 3M for a total of 18M. That’s how that seemed to read but must admit it’s confusing. Earlier reports made it sound like 16.5 have been raised already but this seems to negate that.
MSU is financing up to $3 million depending on what other donations come in. I’m not sure how much has been privately raised, but it’s north of $13.5 million (13.8?) and they’re requiring $1.5 million more. So they’d already be under the $3 million ($2.7?) in financing.

By comparison, UM went to the BOR with $9 million ($7 million of which came from a single donor) and asked for up to $5 million in financing.

https://missoulian.com/news/local/regen ... 97ea1.html

Since financing is paid off by revenues from games it’s still considered private.


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